So... aren't they on equal ground with BF2K, who were barely realized at all?
One of the largest disappointments I've ever had with Joes was finding out (as a teenager, long after BF2K had come and gone) that the 'Future Fortress' was little more than a design joke. I can only imagine what it was like for the kids who actually went to all the trouble. The ones I've heard from seem pretty bitter about the whole affair.
Then there's the 'shocking' and terribly lame death they were given in the comics, several years after they'd actually done anything of note (which was basically nothing