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  1. one man may have wrote it, but a whole lot more signed there name to it, and the 44 state constitutions had explicit religious content to it. Most teachers back in day taught that generation to read using the Bible. All the higher education schools were Christian, and law oriented. So how that does not permeate the country, society, or culture? You do not have to like it or think that it is right, but Christian principles just like enlightenment principles are what this country was based on. One of the biggest arguments the founding Fathers had was that they did not answer to man (king George) but to God. Really that does not matter anymore. Does anyone really care how the country was founded? What matters now is what is right, NOW. What is right now is freedom of religion and separation of church and state Good point. The Founding Fathers didn't believe women should vote and condoned slavery. Should we really have to live by their personal beliefs all these years later? wow! what flawless logic. They also believed in freedom, liberty, and religious tolerance I guess we should throw those out too. Maybe it matters becuase after 300 years most of the population still claims Christianity of one form or another. Seems to me that understanding a foundation could be useful to understanding those who now stand on that foundation Please tell me you were joking when you brought up Muslims founding this country would not have made a difference. I believe women are actually valued somewhat here unlike Muslim countries. Also we would have the dominant technology here like all the other muslim countries, and when people were accused of things like lying and cheating we would not try them in courts, but would hack off body parts as is the traditional custom in Muslim countries. You're right. This country would look and be the same. The only flawed logic is the one where you assumed I was saying that we should throw out everything the Founding Fathers believed. I never said that. But it makes an easy straw man for you to knock down when you pretend that I did. What I was saying is that just because the Founding Fathers believed in it does not mean that we should be bound to believe the same way. How many people brought up "Founding Father" arguments when they were trying to pass the 19th Amendment? Many I'm sure and yet their opinions on the subject were disregarded. And no I wasn't joking when I mentioned Muslims. I was making a point. A point you obviously missed and that being democracy is not a Christian thing. I could have named Hindus, Jews, Buddhists, etc. and regardless of what the difference may be between countries founded by such group it's not as if democracy was something that could only have happened in a Christian society. That is to say I did not mean "same" as in the countries would have been identical but rather "same" in the sense that democracy may or may not have been present. I find it ironic that you bring up the treatment of women here.
  2. one man may have wrote it, but a whole lot more signed there name to it, and the 44 state constitutions had explicit religious content to it. Most teachers back in day taught that generation to read using the Bible. All the higher education schools were Christian, and law oriented. So how that does not permeate the country, society, or culture? You do not have to like it or think that it is right, but Christian principles just like enlightenment principles are what this country was based on. One of the biggest arguments the founding Fathers had was that they did not answer to man (king George) but to God. Really that does not matter anymore. Does anyone really care how the country was founded? What matters now is what is right, NOW. What is right now is freedom of religion and separation of church and state Good point. The Founding Fathers didn't believe women should vote and condoned slavery. Should we really have to live by their personal beliefs all these years later?
  3. What Book would that be? The Bible? Do you believe in Vishnu? No? Well read a book. I suggest the Vedas. Sounds like some good things to me too. But then there are the bad things such as the anti-homosexual message. Is stoning people to death for being gay really love and peace? Sounds like murderous rage to me. There is no harm in believing in a god so longer as you can handle it mentally. The people who kill in it's name obviously cannot. I'd also like to pint out that from an atheist point of view "God" is just man masquerading as something bigger and better. Like the whole anti-homosexual thing . . . does God despise gays or do some men despise gays to such an extent that they put an anti-homosexual message in the Bible as the supposed words of God? The same science that makes your computer possible? Science contradicts itself because it is an ongoing process. As time goes on we learn more and more. That is why the science of 500 years ago barely resembles the science of today. Religion on the other hand becomes trapped in time. No matter how many advances we make the unscientific aspects of the Bible are still going to be there and if someone does dare to try and correct them they are branded a heretic. As for your other comments here: 1. The Big Bang is not a sentient being that "makes" things. If you make it out to be such then you are making it into God. 2. Fish changing into a horse may seem silly but how about a fish changing into another fish, changing into another fish, changing into another fish, changing into another fish, changing into a sort of amphibian, etc. Doesn't seem quite so silly then. 3. It's more accurate to say men came from apes than monkeys. And yes I do believe in evolution. It's sound science. And I don't care if you believe in a god or not either. However I must admit it annoys me when people reject science in order to believe. That is not necessary! Maybe evolution was programmed into living things by God so that they would not die on the planet of ever changing climate that HE created!? Just a thought. As for proof. I offer no proof that there is no god. It would be foolish to attempt such a thing. However seems unfair that atheists should have no come up with proof that there is no god when theists do not have to offer proof that there IS one. And no the Bible isn't proof. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Well maybe that's just the thing. It's 2008 and not 1808. How many Muslims extremists are there in Cobra? How many G.I. Joe figures have a cross around their neck? When it comes to religion, toy companies have avoid it like the plague. As such it is kind of amazing that we are actually getting an Indiana Jones action figure line seeing as how there are so many religious themes (both Christian and Hindu) and the fact that every other character looks to be Muslim. And that's not to mention the Nazis.
  4. one man may have wrote it, but a whole lot more signed there name to it, and the 44 state constitutions had explicit religious content to it. Most teachers back in day taught that generation to read using the Bible. All the higher education schools were Christian, and law oriented. So how that does not permeate the country, society, or culture? You do not have to like it or think that it is right, but Christian principles just like enlightenment principles are what this country was based on. One of the biggest arguments the founding Fathers had was that they did not answer to man (king George) but to God. State constitutions aside (we are talking about the Unites States itself here) there is a difference between the country being made up by a Christian majority and thus that being reflected in it's society and the nation actually being founded on Christian principals. There is nothing inherently Christian about the United States' foundation. The country could have been founded by Muslims and there would be no difference. Don't think that Muslims would found a democratic country at that point in time? Perhaps not but what about democracy is Christian? Like i said in my earlier post it's a pagan thing. That's why Washington DC looks like ancient Rome and not ancient Jerusalem.
  5. Is there eventually going to be an actual line of these in the store? That could be cool.
  6. I've actually heard of people thinking atheists are evil since we can't have morals since (in their mind) morals are based on the idea that if you do good you get in heaven Yeah it's kind of disturbing to think that people are only being good because they think they will be rewarded. Though I suppose fear of being punished for doing evil is also a motivator.
  7. I want one of these to use with my Oktober Guard figures.
  8. I just want to point out to the people saying that the United States was founded on Judeo-Christian principals that the 10 Commandments are not law. For example, I could cheat on my wife and not go to jail for it despite it being against God's Laws. In addition the Bible speaks a lot about Kingdoms and the idea that we are to be obedient to God or be punished. Who voted for God? The idea of democracy and republicanism actually comes from the ancient Romans (a pagan society I might add). So what are these principals that this country was supposedly founded upon? Yes Jefferson and others believed in a god. And yes Jefferson included "creator" talk in the Declaration of Independence. However Jefferson was a deist that didn't believe Jesus was the "Son Of God" or had performed any supernatural miracles. In fact he published a Bible that had all that stuff cut out. The Constitution of the Unites States has no such talk in it. So I don't think it is accurate to portray the United States has a nation founded on Christian principals just because a single document that was written by one man included a few words about his own personal beliefs in a deistic creator. If someone stood up in a church today and started preaching deistic views they would be thrown out and called a witch. That is all.
  9. Yeah I'm not exactly buying into that being Shipwreck.
  10. To bring this back on topic I think he meant that he was surprised that such toys are being made because usually that type of stuff isn't done for toy lines. Yeah the stuff is in the movies but I always felt one of the reasons that a Indiana Jones line was never made was because of the religious and Nazi aspects of it. People are talking about Christian stuff . . . image how Hindus feel about the Temple of Doom.
  11. "I'm not expert on G.I. Joe but . . . . . ." = avoid.
  12. Something I have wondered recently. Were they ever called the Crimson Twins in the comics or cartoon? I remember having a hard time coming up with the username when I first registered, because I didn't want to leave one of the names out, and I hadn't remembered them being called anything other than Crimson Guard Commanders. Just curious. I believe "Crimson Twins" was just a common fan nickname for the twins that eventually made it's way onto the file cards of a convention exclusive Twins. The name way of then later of been used in the Devil's Due books but I don't know.
  13. How do they decide if a figure is going to be "From the G.I. Joe Cartoon Series" or "From the G.I. Joe Comic Book Series"? A lot of those figures could go either way.
  14. I don't see the 25th line as being a squeal to Valor Vs Venom or Sigma Six but rather a retro line taking place in the 80s so changing this wording because it's the year 2008 seems silly. I'm sure they changed it for political reasons or something. NATO is in Afghanistan after all.
  15. Am I the only one that didn't hate the first X-Men film (never saw the other 2)? People comparing this film with X-Men is actually a positive thing to me.
  16. I understand what you are saying but quite frankly I'm just glad we are getting Indiana Jones figures at all considering all the Nazi and religious content in action figure form.
  17. One of the first VHS tapes my family ever owned was Temple of Doom. As such it has become a favorite of mine. With that said I do find myself almost liking Last Crusade better. Last Crusade has the return of Sallah, Marcus Brody (who actually goes out of the adventure this time), and the debut of Sean Connery as Dr. Henry Jones Sr. In addition to that we get the Nazis as a return villain and the movie had a number of funny scenes that I loved (like when Indy pretends to be a Scottish Lord). Then of course you can't go wrong with Raiders either. I love them all really.
  18. Loving the Falcon. The rest are good too.
  19. Sorry I disagree with you, wearing the mask all the time out of family honor is at the heart of what makes the Destro character who he is, and If Iron Man can wear a helmet or Darth Vader I don't believe in this day and age of movie magic they couldn't come up with something that looks good he could wear all the time. Same goes for Cobra Commander. "Destro" is a codename, just like Stalker or Ice Cream Soldier. Destro is also a terrorist. James McCullen is still a legitimate business man. Its not likely he would go to legitmate business dealings in the world at large wearing his terrorist persona. EXACTLY
  20. Heavy Duty's code name is a registered trademark right up there with Destro and Cobra Commander (look at his name on packaging, it has a little R next to it rather than a TM). I think it may be the simple fact that Hasbro apparently has control over the words "heavy duty" that has them using it so much more than Roadblock.
  21. Destro walking around in the mask 24/7 would have been totally ridiculous. There is simply no way you can have a guy walking around like that realistically unless in a battle situation. Which from what I understand is exactly what we are going to get. I'd save the complaints about Destro until we actually get to see what his mask will look like. Maskless Destro here looks perfect.
  22. Eh, these don't really bother me at all. In fact I'm happy to see that Storm Shadow will be getting his traditional mask at some point in the film. Destro looks fine. Did people actually expect him to be walking around in that open chest disco suit? I also have no doubt that he will have his mask in the film. It's just unrealistic for a man to be walking around conducting business with it on 24/7. Breaker could use a full beard though. I kind of figured that was the point in taking a guy from Tennessee and making him Middle Eastern.
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  24. If this is true I think it's cool. Though strange.
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