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  1. Yeah, after getting a first hand look at the scheduled marvel legends waves, it seems the line is alive and well. The Hasbro rep suggested that they have been "tweaking some of the molds", and kinda danced around the fact that the holocaust series was delayed. The Figs overall looked great. Fin Fang Foom looks really nice, as did the New avengers spider-man black suit (although his feet didnt appear to be very articulated and his of all characters should be). Spiral has a gold trimmed version and a silver trimmed version, with removable helmet The Jim Lee wolverine is kinda bleh, and yes was as tall as forge. The money is in the black suit, complete with the glowing red eye look The Red Hulk appears to be the build a figure for series 5 The Kree and Skrull pack is sweet (although the skrull was labeled as skrull soldier not super-skrull) The daredevils shown have a bit of a sleeker design with less bulky shoulder joints Hand ninjas have interchangeable heads and weapons The shield agents come with removable knife boots, side arm and a rifle, which are nic touches The Hasbro Rep also stated that the build an army figures were reinitiated secondary to huge fan feedback. Adam Warlock looked great (dunno if the infinity gauntlet comes off) Union jack comes nicely armed Son of Hulk looked like a cool sculpt although i have as much interest in him as i do wolverine's son SIlver Savage looked cool Tigras face was well done and looked different then in previous pics
  2. Well, the thing is that quality means jack-spit. The casual consumer simply does not care about "quality" if they do not have a association to the product--especially younger consumers. There's piles of cancelled toy-lines what were excellent product that no-one gave a hoot about simply because they didn't know who the characters were--its also why most toys have some kind of tangental media tie-in, like a tv show or movie. Most consumers these days are, sadly programmed to react ONLY to products tied into related media. I've tracked this myself for about a decade on-line--noting many "requested" lists in many toy forums. When a thread starts like out like: "What kind of toyline would you like to see?" in EVERY case, 99.9% of the respondants list stuff from TV or movies. They are going with what they know, and if they don't know it......they don't want it. (For years I was listing that toymakers should create their own home-grown ideas and characters, without relying on other media. Always fell on deaf ears because no-one could think outside their box) Ergo, with the lesser known characters, its not enough to make them look good......Man-Thing was a really great looking toy......but he was a major peg warmer. More than a few retailers had trouble GIVING the figure away--hell, I know a couple that had trouble selling the figure at clearance for $1. Iron Man routinely sells out. So does Spiderman. Captain America and Hulk as well. A small retailer I know told me that of all the Marvel legends and related lines like SMC etc he carried, Spiderman was the top seller. He could sell that figure without trying.......someone was always looking for him, and this IN SPITE of the fact that just doors away was a TRU that moved LESS Marvel Legends stock than he did. And they were selling out of Spidey too. Apparently, that common all over the place. You and I might think.......Stingray, for example, would be a cool-ass character to make as a ML.......and he would look cool. But cool looks means squat if the majority of consumers don't know who Stingray is. Is he a good guy or a bad guy? Is he an X-man? Does he have his own comic? Is he Marvel or DC ( Yea, even in Marvel packaging they will ask this question!)? Any character not in the mainstream gets the same approach. I wish it was otherwise, but that's what's happening and why we are getting the trickle of characters we see. Good points made by all i think
  3. its probably because they don't really need a good face sculpt, they just need the characters name to sell it, if they were to make a Lilandra fig nobody would care what the faced looked like, collectors would just buy it because its Lillandra, thats what happened with Emma Frost in my opinion, everyone just wanted her so bad that hasbro rushed her just to appease the collectors and to help ease the hasbro-toybiz transition(i just think since then they've been kissing the fanboys ass with the lesser known characters while still not giving us decent sculpts for them, just to keep us at ease), but this obviously isn't apparent with all the female sculpts, sometimes its not the face sculpts that are bad but the bodies, another problem they've had it the consistent reuse of only 2 different female body sculpts fro all their figs. most aren't even that bad, some of the better ones are Warbird, Phoenix, Mystique, Lady Deathstrike, Psylocke, Spider-Woman, and She-Hulk. but i think what you asking is why are the toys not as hot or sexy as they appearing the comic, and i think its because they don't want them to be"offense" towards women or children, for example i don't remember Lady Deathstrike having a shirt on under her vest thing in some of the comics, but they put a shirt on her. I see your point, but I don't think they necessarily have to cross the line from attractive female sculpt (or should i say at least coming closer to comic book facial art) to skanky. For the most part the faces look androgenous, not particularly feminine. It seems like sloppy work, when alot of detail obviously goes into male sculpts ya but their no where close to having an attractive sculpt, going back to the emma frost sculpt, its just plain bad, while it the comic shes as hot as hell, i just find it hard for hasbro to accidentally screw up such a hot chick, she should have looked something like this: i mean common look at the figs face then look at the pix on her box, how hard is it to screw that up? Of course. I used the wonder woman example in my original post. The figure can't move worth a damn, but as sclupting goes, her face looks, well...like wonder woman in the comics, hot, not skanky
  4. its probably because they don't really need a good face sculpt, they just need the characters name to sell it, if they were to make a Lilandra fig nobody would care what the faced looked like, collectors would just buy it because its Lillandra, thats what happened with Emma Frost in my opinion, everyone just wanted her so bad that hasbro rushed her just to appease the collectors and to help ease the hasbro-toybiz transition(i just think since then they've been kissing the fanboys ass with the lesser known characters while still not giving us decent sculpts for them, just to keep us at ease), but this obviously isn't apparent with all the female sculpts, sometimes its not the face sculpts that are bad but the bodies, another problem they've had it the consistent reuse of only 2 different female body sculpts fro all their figs. most aren't even that bad, some of the better ones are Warbird, Phoenix, Mystique, Lady Deathstrike, Psylocke, Spider-Woman, and She-Hulk. but i think what you asking is why are the toys not as hot or sexy as they appearing the comic, and i think its because they don't want them to be"offense" towards women or children, for example i don't remember Lady Deathstrike having a shirt on under her vest thing in some of the comics, but they put a shirt on her. I see your point, but I don't think they necessarily have to cross the line from attractive female sculpt (or should i say at least coming closer to comic book facial art) to skanky. For the most part the faces look androgenous, not particularly feminine. It seems like sloppy work, when alot of detail obviously goes into male sculpts
  5. This person isn't forgetting that there have been one's that have been made, and that's not what the point of my original statement was. i'm saying that B and C list characters can be and have been translated into some of the more interesting action figures without the backing of movies, and mass circulation of their particular comic books or comics in which they appeared. Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the fact that it's the popularity of core marvel characters and the success of their use in other entertainment media that have allowed ML's to exist and continue
  6. I've noticed, as well as everyone who reads these posts that both toy biz and hasbro have struggled with capturing a well.....feminine female face sculpt. When you look at some of the DC offerings (new wonder woman series for instance) albeit much less articukated, their facial sculpts capture their female character's comic book looks. What do you guys think? Why should the marvel legends females still look like the chromosomally challenged 1980's G.I Joe Scarlet figure in the year 2008?
  7. I got a really good explaination from a comics retailer I know, as to why Hasbro is not lamenting the omission of the printed comics anymore......and its NOT due to cost savings. The comics are essentially redundant, I was told. See, almost anyone that is going to buy these toys is more than likely using the internet, and through the internet can easily find out plenty of info about the characters ( Wikipedia, Marvel.com, Google, etc.) in less time than it would take to read said comics. That makes total sense to me. The only thing the comics brought to the equation was as a bonus item and a bigger bang for the buck in terms of value in the package. Personally I still miss the comics, and I think omitting them was a mistake because it reduced some of the fun with the product. There's only been two characters made in all of the various ML lines that I knew absolutely nothing about ( Doop and Danger), and I'm a older Marvel reader ( late 70's to mid 90's) that's not read alot of stuff in the past 10 years or so. Hasbro would have to get pretty esoteric or pick a character that's pretty darn new to beat the association game with me. Good points, but still the potential is there for action figures to have a "life" beyond their repsective comic book appearances. Yes nova is dead (She-nova herald) but what a great collector's figure that would be and a kid's (big kid's included ) toy. Keep the quality of the sculpts high (god those DC universe classic sculpts are grade A), marketing and distribution consistent, and many of those characters could flourish. Man-thing isn't the greatest character in the MU, but damn, that was a great sculpt. It made it one of the more interesting ones of it's wave. Those super popular character's can wind up as peg warmers just as easily as the no names, and can fall to poor quality as well.
  8. Hehe, i know what you're saying. I absolutely agree with the fact that froma sales perspective, you need the continual resence of popular figs, but it's also those popular figs that become peg warmers. I think that you put out a visually interesting B lister and that figure may catch the interest of both collectors and kids alike (ie stilt man, radioactive man to name a couple, lol)
  9. Hello all, this is my first post but have been visiting the message board for some time now and collecting ML since series 1. It kind of seems to me that the approach that both hasbro and toy biz have taken with the ML line is actually straying from the "legends" aspect of the characters they choose to produce. The multitudes of wolverines, captain americas, hulks, iron men (you get the point) are interesting and welcome additions to a collection (well, for the most part), but these companies also forget that alot of B and even C list characters helped the marvel universe an interesting comic universe. Reading alot of posts you have started and repiled to make me think that alot of you would agree. Focusing less on repitition and more on character variety is the key to success. A less "popular" character in the comics (ie Original Quasar, Nova (Frankie Ray) or any herald of galactus for that matter, Sting Ray, mocking bird, Original Thunderbird) may make for a visually stunning and popular action figure and breathe new life into that character from a comic book point of view. My point is, a popular comic character does not always tranlate into the best looking or best selling action figure. What do you guys think?
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