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  1. Wave numbering is off depending on your souce, but... Wave 8 (Psylocke wave) - 2 Spider-Men, 6 non-Spider-Men Wave 9 (Carnage wave) - 2 Spider-Men (but one's Ben Reilly), 6 non-Spider-Men Wave 10 (Sentry wave) - 2 Spider-Men, 6 non-Spider-Men Wave 11 (rumored Ultron and Ronin wave) - looks like 2 Spider-Men ("SPD" and "S-M") Wave 12 (rumored Shang-Chi and Kang wave) - looks like 2 Spider-Men ("S-M" and "SMan") Not counting Hulk and Iron Man movie-lines, almost 25% of all Super-Hero Squad toys being made are Spider-Man. Wolverine, by contrast, only appears one figure in roughly every other wave despite being fairly well known in his own right. The Fantastic Four, in total, have only had like 8 figures. Before the movie lines, Hulk and Iron Man only had a few figures each. Same for Captain America and Punisher. I think part of what Scorpio Kyle is trying to say isn't that Marvel shouldn't focus on iconic characters, but that the Spider-Man figures outnumber all the other iconic characters by a huge amount (like 5 to 1 for characters like Wolverine, Silver Surfer, Ghost Rider, Thing, Punisher, and about 3 to 1 for characters like Hulk and Iron Man who just got movie lines of their own)
  2. No, there's lots of complaints, just not really on this board. Main complaints: - Distribution (Toys R Us exclusives like Sand Pit showing up in Walmarts, disappearing, then back in Toys R Us, current waves are always impossible while Wave 1 and 2 figures are still plentiful) - production screw-ups (last minute switches of Venom, Kraven being scrapped but nobody knowing about it) - paint jobs (both intentionally bad ones like Mr. Fantastic's polka dot hair, and unintentional ones resulting in stray marks, paint lines that are too thick, obviously running off from where they were supposed to be painted, etc) - exclusives being packed with stuff nobody really wants (having to buy things like Spider-Man's Battle Truck or the Bank Heist Playset to get them exclusives) - having to buy characters they don't want to get ones they do want (particularly when it's in a 4-pack) - repaints (Wall-crawling Spidey in black, red, chrome, most of the movie Spideys being re-released with black lines instead of silver to make it "comic accurate", having to buy the $10 mega-packs to get new versiosn of Cyclops and Mr. Fantastic and shiny re-paints of Sentinel and Galactus) - character selection (I know, I know, that's one of the "perks" this line has according to some of you, but there of the 150 figures released so far, 20 are Spider-Man, 7 are Iron Man, 4 versions of the Human Torch, 5 or 6 Wolverines... and the current trend is that each wave of 8 figures, in 4 2-packs, has 2 Spider-Men, 1 Wolverine, 1 of either Hulk, Captain America or Hulk meaning you need to pay $24-$30 to get 4 new characters) - spacing between release dates (8 2-packs released just before Christmas with 2 new 4-packs, then nothing until February with 2 mega packs, then in April four 4-packs and 4 2-packs, possibly more since we're not totally sure of release dates before they hit, followed by 7 Hulk 2-packs, a multi-pack and 8 more 2-packs all due before June.) Those are just the main complaints I've heard from fans and collectors. From the non-fans, I always hear the standard "they're too cute," "they're for kids" and that stuff.
  3. Re: DC cartoon: yeah, stuff like Batman TAS was great, popular, groundbreaking, etc, etc. but DC has almost all of their animated library out. They have almost all of the Superfriends/Powers set out, the old Superman, Batman, Aquaman cartoons... I can only think of a few things off hand that they don't have out, like the few episodes of Hawkman/Green Lantern/Teen Titans they had produced. Marvel is forced to sit on a goldmine of properties because their rights are tied up, while DC has already pumped out most of what they've got, recognized most of the money they're going to get out of DVD sales of those properties, and is now waiting for The Batman and Legion to wrap up. Plus, Marvel's animated properties have all got strong film property ties that would equal instant marketing and sales if available day and date of the movie's release. Money beats quality, and Marvel is not sitting on them because DC's stuff was just that much better. And if you've got those Spider-Man single story DVDs, then don't feel buyers remorse, put them on Amazon's used DVD market or on eBay where fans are willing to pay oodles and oodles for what few episodes there are.
  4. Because the rights are tied up LOL. Same with X-Men. Same with the 90's Fantastic Four going out of print. Same with Hulk, Silver Surfer, Avengers United and Iron Man. I'm 65% certain Spider-Man and his Amazing Friends got lumped with the same bundle of rights. In the end, after some transfers and take-overs, Disney landed rights to many of Marvel's animated properties, and now sits on them. Wow... that was easy. Usually these questions make me long-winded.
  5. No, you're thinking of the other X-Men fill-in-the-gaps series that was out a long time ago (X-Men Hidden Years). This takes place before they were cancelled/turned to reprints, and theoretically slides right into pre-existing stories instead of trying to fill in some gap. If Marvel were to try and give a stricter more accurate story, editorially it would be a nightmare. Take, for instance, take the recent Black Widow/Scarlet Witch/Marvel Girl story. The Scarlet Witch was a full fledged member of the Avengers when a still villainous Black Widow attacked them. It was some time after her battle with the Avengers that she was re-programed and worked with SHIELD. If you put too fine a point on it, then continuity wise she attacked Iron Man, came to the US, became a good girl sometime between X-Men 4 or 5 or whenever SW left the Brotherhood and Avengers 15-16 (I forget which, I think it was 16) when SW joined the Avengers, assisted SHIELD in recruiting SW, failed, went back to being a bad girl and then both of them forgot the other one when they met in Avengers. And of course, with appearances of Man-Thing and now Machine Man coming up, this all takes place sometime after around Avengers Annual 7/Avengers 167 because Machine Man didn't officially come into the modern day Marvel Universe until that time. Of course, if you point this out, you're labeled a continuity nerd and burned at the stake by Marvel, but whatever. Marvel's next cross-over Secret Hour: A War In Time Is Not Absolute can fix all that. I think the trick is to either enjoy the First Class stories as they are without too much thought of how they fit in, or just pretend they're an alternate reality until the OHOTMU men and women can figure out a good way to make it work.
  6. que? Morph? Villian? Was that Age of Apocalypse Morph or Exiles Morph? If we're talkin X-Men Animated Series Morph I think perhaps someone needs to go sit at the kiddie table. The fact that everybody loves the animated Morph continues to astound me. Does nobody realize that he was created on that show simply to be killed off? Fox was sending a message to all the fans saying "don't worry, we're not gonna pull any punches on this show!" Then all the kiddies cried and all the Tipper Gore wannabe mommies wrote angry letters and lo and behold: Morph is back. I mean c'mon! The writers of that show didn't even have the stones to kill Dark Phoenix and stay true to the comics. If you wanna do Exiles Morph than I'm all for it. Otherwise don't waste my time. As for real villians: Dude, who remembers X-Men Animated stuff any more? I say that tongue in cheek, but Morph was based on Changeling, who started as a villain in Factor 3 and then after Prof. X "died", it was revealed that Changeling was pretending to be Professor X. And Morph on the cartoon of a decade and a half ago wasn't brought back because of Tipper gore wannabe mommies, but as Story Editor for X-Men the Animated Series Eric Lewald explains, because of his surprise popularity. http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?t=200466 Or, of course, he could have been referring to the fact that Exiles Morph is, in fact, possessed by the villainous Proteus and fought the Exiles who then decided that the only way to stop him was through brainwashing/mind trickery. But I'm sure you knew all of that before you went off on that poor guy. Having said that, he could just as well have been referring to the fact that animated Morph worked for Sinister for what... 2 episodes of the cartoon back in 1993?
  7. I'm glad the Iron Man movie collection isn't as movie as the Spider-Man movie collections were... Titanium Man, Crimson Dynamo, War Machine, some classic armors... much better than 3 Venom repaints, all those Spideys... I'd like more villains PERIOD. Sinister would be good, and I'm glad we're rumored to be getting a Red Skull, but I'd like to see a Thunderbolts wave, maybe a Silver Samurai, Dormammu, Boomerang, Thanos... guys that aren't typically the first ones you'd see in a line. Uhm... Mystique? I'd also like to see some wacky waves... like they could put the entire Nextwave team in a single wave... or the Defenders that aren't out yet (Val, Nighthawk, Hellcat, Moondragon... maybe even the later ones like Cloud, Overmind and Manslaughter), or maybe the rest of the Spider-Man world (MJ, Gwen, May, Spider-Girl, the other Spider-Women) But I could go on.
  8. You're right Electro, we should all be as well in-sourced and well-informed as you. I will take the lead. I spoke to a guy who owns a store who says that he talked to a guy that works for Hasbro and he said that Superhero Squad is going away. If Hasbro keeps making them however, just know it's impossible for any of the steps on this chain to be wrong... Hasbro will have done a secret 180 and changed their entire marketing plans, including planned releases that had already been revealed months before. I know that your "source's" failed predictions have already been discussed ad nauseum, but just because the information you proudly passed on from a source several levels removed didn't work out, does not mean that corporate dictate at Hasbro has shifted. Also doesn't mean you should berate the other guy for not "keeping up with the news"
  9. The Spidey Bank Heist fig had a hand for grabbing the webbing, the Doc Ock Bank Heist fig had re-colored jackt and if I remember which is which, he has a shirt painted on instead of the bare chest. The vehicle figures are mirror images of each other (the arms are flipped basically) but are otherwise new. The two I have havea more "classic" blue than the movie figures, but that could just be a manufacturing thing and not a conscious effort to make them different than the movie figures.
  10. I got a chance to see the other Venom when I picked up the new Venom/Sandman and Spidey/Vulture two packs. Looks very small compared to the others... mayhap that's why they pulled him? To get a big hulking Venom? Also of note, in the little checklist booklet they included in the two packs was a page of Super Hero Squad danglers... basically a handful of Spidey SHS figures with a little clip on top to attach to backpacks or whatever. Same sculpts looked like, just with a silly backpack clip.
  11. Ok, I think I get what you're saying, but isn't the one that Marvelous News here posted pictures of way back when exactly what we got? I trashed my box so I don't remember if this http://i.marvelousnews.com/g/index.php?mod...800&start=0 is what they showed on the back or not but if you've got a link to a pic I'd appreciate it. All I know is that I have 3 different confirmed Venoms: A Black with Grey spidey-lines, an all black tongue and an all navy blue-ish (but I can't remember which was from the Sandpit, the Puma 2-pack and the Wave 1). Someone on Wikipedia, I think, put down that the single packed Venom (that was supposed to go to stores owned by the Big Lots franchise) was a variant/different paint job. When I look at the differences in the single pack (http://i.marvelousnews.com/g/index.php?mode=album&album=Hasbro%2FSHS%2FSingles) and the released, I'm not entirely sure if it's a lighting effect or an actual different paint job. And the differences in Spideys just seemed arbitrary to me. Most of the Spidey's have silver web piping, some have black. Some have a dark blue-ish color blue, others have a more "classic" blue. But the combinations seem a little random. The majority of figures all seem to be Navy/Silver, but then the two vehicle figures for instance seem to be Blue/Silver, and I think it's the Collector's pack one that's Blue/Black (which I'm guessing is what we'd call the comic version.) Looking them over again, I'd have to say that since the darkness of the blue comes and goes, the only thing that makes a movie figure "movie" is the silver webbing. Then again, I'm always the guy that doesn't notice the differences until someone else points them out to me, so maybe the movie figures have a "tell" that someone can help me out with? Not that it really matters in the grand scheme whether the next set have silver or black piping or classic blue versus navy blue, but it'd satisfy my curiousity.
  12. yeah but how many of those are movie versions also,clevernamehere, learn to use some damn punctuation New Gob: Venom/Puma did get released. Same wave as Mysterio and Black Cat. I've got them sitting on my shelf (Venom is just a re-do of the first Venom though.) Joe: You talking about my admittedly run-on sentance, or the list of potential new SHS figures? The list was garbled because I copy/pasted from a checklist, saw the cell frames in the text box and thought they would come out like that when I hit post. Apparently it didn't. Whatever. Also... WTF's the difference between movie SHS Spidey and non-movie SHS Spidey? Silver webbing versus black webbing? Slightly raised versus not so slightly? I don't think Hasbro is really making a conscious effort to distinguish Movie and non-Movie.
  13. LOL, you're just the poster child for internet forum arguments aren't you? When someone gives you a point by point refutation, you try the "I've got better things to do than defend my arguments (with pointy insinuation that the person who pointed out your argument's flaws doesn't have anything better)" trick. Ok, long story short: stop trying to insult the SS collectors for buying a "kids" line. Newsflash: SHS is for ages 3 and up. Marvel Legends is for 4 and up. Don't tell me you've never seen a kid a third your age in the toy aisle buying a ML. We keep trying to show you the silliness of your argument, and you keep insulting whoever points it out to you. I'm hesitant to say that a more mature individual wouldn't do as much anonymous internet name calling as you, but I'm trying not to go there. I'm afraid, however, going there is the only way to point this out to you. S'okay, like I said, I come in peace, just wanted to point out what was wrong with your hit-and-run "attacktix". And there was no Mysterio bash. You're trying to find a fight where there is none. There was me explaining that you as a possibly reasonable gentleman, can not get away with slamming one guy for using a Star Wars character name as is internet name when you use Mysterio. By saying that his nickname makes him immature, you're apparently insinuating that Star Wars is more immature than Spider-Man, or maybe just that his particular character choice makes him more immature. I'm not sure which and it doesn't matter because it doesn't bare weight. I'm not going to respond to your Mysterio defense because I've got better things to do (get the joke?) but suffice it to say one story in 40 years, featuring a character that many people laugh at, and that wasn't all that good but that you enjoy (Kevin Smith's DD) is not proof in any way that your selection of fishbowl is any less immature than JarJar's selection of a Star Wars character that many people didn't like. You chose Mysterio because of some weird attraction to the character... you have no idea why he chose Jar Jar. For all you know it was a joke you're not in on. So back on topic: Who else prefers Minimates to SHS, or vice versa?
  14. There's also the SHS wallpaper showing Professor X along with the new Gambit, Iceman and the Sentinel and Astonishing Cyke that are coming out later. And there's the Shadowcat shown in pics of one of those major comic cons (San Diego was it?) And the Spider-Woman/Hulk, Doc Ock/Spidey figures would seem to confirm the guy who said he has walmart skus showing: Hulk II Spider Woman Deadpool Punisher II Captain America II Cable Daredevil II SpiderMan XVII? (W/DD II) Wolverine IV (W/Pyslocke) SpiderMan XVIII? (W/Venom IV) Venom IV? Ghost Rider II Ghost Rider Motorcycle Psylocke Spider-Man XIX (w/Doc Ock II) Doc Ock II (w/Spider-Man XVIII)
  15. I just re-read that and I take it back. I'm trying not to buy into this re-characterization of arguments, putting words in people's mouths, using straw men, and all the other tactics I'm seeing already. I was trying to point out that you keep calling SS a kids line, that it's a waste because it's a kids line and got defensive when Rebel suggested joked how SS is for girly men while ML is for manly men, who stay home on Fridays. When I started to reply, I was a little fired up because you don't seem to read what everyone is trying to explain and you start trying to discount every else's reply with slams like "immature" and "hypocrisy" when the same terms can be applied to the stuff you're saying.
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