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I'd TOTALLY support this...even if HASBRO produced it...provided that they used the Classic versions of the characters.
My choice for the First Wave?
1. ODIN
2. BALDER
3. Classic LOKI
4. SIF
5. FANDRAL
6. HOGUN
7. ENCHANTRESS
8. HELA
9. Re-do of Classic THOR
VOLSTAGG BAF...yes, he's a "fat guy"...but he's not gross, like the BLOB...maybe because he has the decency to cover his rolls of flesh with some clothes, instead of a spandex bathing suit...gross...
(I'd also like to see a new THOR, a la' Copiel in the latest THOR # 1...in a later wave)
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I was just thinking of how you and that other guy got into it over FA Storm. Then I sat back and day dreamed about you (no idea what you look like so I pictured a pissed off M.O.D.O.K) making nothing but FA Storms at the factory then stealing all the variants of FA Storm and then selling them on Ebay.
But if I was in charge I'd use colored plastic as little as possible and go back to paint apps. I'd go back to plastic clamshells (they hold up better over time). Id also get rid of some of the odd joints being used now. I'd also go back to larger BAF's. Don't tell me we are getting small ones because of oil prices. Look at the size of the PITT that just came out.
I like the image you describe...although I'm far more handsome than MODOK. I think I chose him as my avatar because no one else was using him.
I don't mind colored plastic if it's done correctly. For example, I'd always use flesh-colored plastic for...well, for flesh (whatever tone/color that may be...). I hate it when they paint flesh-tones over "colored" plastic...it just looks cheap.
I, too, would eliminate the HASBRO-joints, and reinstitute the tricep-cut, which HASBRO seems to have abandoned.
And I agree about the BAFs...that "price-of-oil" excuse is BS.
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If I were in charge I'd hire So No Tornato and have him produce FA Storm.
LOL! It's true...I could easily do a better job on an FA Storm figure than the clowns at HASBRO...but if I were in charge, I would NEVER do an FA Storm.
First of all, we already have a Storm from ML 8...once is enough,
Secondly, IMO, she's a boring, over-rated character that I'd never waste plastic on. Again...that's my opinion, and I'm entitled to it.
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will thor be in it?
Yes, but he'll probably be the NAZI-loving Thor from the 1970's INVADERS comics...Hitler loved Norse Mythology...
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Being a Jedi means tapping into the goodness in things. Having the knowledge, or enlightend state of mind, to know that everything will work out. Often capable of steering the misguided towards their true goal... Our role is primarily to mediate, provide a level head if you will?0
The Sith are a manipulative collection of individuals, who hide their cowardice behind bold statements that direct your attention to negative spaces. Sparks fly whenever there are more than one or two in close proximity. Fear, Hate, Anger... only those who consider themselves "Dark" could ever master such emotions.
We fight because both of us wish to know what is better than average. Solutions to a common problem, or what direction we should head. We fight because each devotee has an indivudual voice while persuing a similar goal. We fight because every action has an equal and opposite reaction...
Alright, after the dust has settled, who are you most looking foward to? Hit the photo galleries and come back with an educated answer...I'll still be right here!
If you don't have anything nice to say...say nothing at all!!! (This applies to the negative wave rippling around the "Internets")
I'm looking foward to
Daredevil
Hydra goon
Namor
Punisher
Ronan the Accuser
Thing
Tigra
So...you're a Jedi???
WTH????
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So this is how they'll bring Cap back from the dead.
Time Travel...how original...
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What does Hasbro need to learn to do? Everything TB had, Hasbro has. There are 15 waves plus all the side waves of ML to look at. They know what made the line successful. Nothing to learn, it's essentially only the name of the company that changed.
Absolutely, 100% WRONG.
If they have all this history to look at, why aren't they executing to that standard???
If you think "only the name of the company has changed" then you need to go back and look at some of TOY-BIZ's LEGENDS to realize how rong that statement is. Not all of them...just waves 1-15, all of the Box-Sets, all of the Face-offs, all of the SMCs, all of the XMCs, all of the FFCs, and the WALMART wave...that should help.
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Big Deal...he's only doing the covers.
And you can bet that this will be filled with Alex's special brand of squishy, left-wing politics, a la' that horrendous POS he did on Uncle Sam a few years back at DC.
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THIRSTY....
Neee...more...KOOL-AID!
Aaaaaaahhh! Much better!
Wow! These sub-standard HASBRO LEGENDS are greeeeeeaaaaaat!
@firedevil@
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5. Rerelease Kang, Dragon Man, Dark Phoenix, Stealth Iron Man, and every unique character variant from the Toybiz waves that most people were never able to find.
Personally, I hope that Hasbro NEVER re-releases these figures, as that will seriously devalue my MIB sets of KANG, DRAGON-MAN, and STEALTH IM...not to mention my out-of-box display versions.
Real collectors don't collect toys for the value of them. And I doubt that the value would go down that much, as any true collector would still want the superior, Toybiz, versions
Which is why I have one set on display, one set MIB...and also why I sold a Dragon-Man to a guy at a Comics store for $80!
Collecting is fun, especially if, occasionally, I can make some serious scratch off of it!
Now that HASBRO has totally sucked all the joy out of MARVEL LEGENDS (9 months...two mediocre waves...wow...), what else is a guy to do??
@smilepunch@
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5. Rerelease Kang, Dragon Man, Dark Phoenix, Stealth Iron Man, and every unique character variant from the Toybiz waves that most people were never able to find.
Personally, I hope that Hasbro NEVER re-releases these figures, as that will seriously devalue my MIB sets of KANG, DRAGON-MAN, and STEALTH IM...not to mention my out-of-box display versions.
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For example, someone please tell me what's wrong with YJ, Quicksilver, Blob? Nothing at all, IMO! Those are 3 great figures & I fail to see how much better they would've been if TB was still doing them.
I'll take that challenge.
1. Yellowjacket: Painfully under-detailed. The TOY-BIZ body-sculpt he's based on has better defined musculature. In addition, the plastic colors are boring, the yellow is monotone. The paint of the face is also montone, and too shiny. TOY-BIZ was much better than HASBRO at detailing faces. As I write this, I'm looking at a TOY-BIZ XMC "House of M" Wolvie (or whatever he was called...but's he's in a "House of M" costume), and the paint-apps on the face are phenomenal.
Yellowjacket is only an OK figure. TOY-BIZ would've done way better, and in fact, HASBRO did a bait-n-switch at SDCC 2006 by showing the TOY-BIZ prototypes for this wave.
2. Quicksilver: Same as above, but worse. The face has zero detailing, and a pale, shiny, bland beige color. Same for the costume...BLAND...no color details, not even a wash. AND...it's the wrong color! Quicksilver's Silver-Age costume, on which this is based, was more of a powder blue...this is a Columbia blue...it matters.
Quicksilver is a lame figure. I'd give it a 4.5/10.
3. Blob: Again, the montone skin color is boring. The SDCC prototype was perhaps too detailed, but this is another extreme. They tried to fix it by adding some speckles, but that only half fixed the problem. No knee articulation - CRAP!
Honestly, I'm not as bothered by this one, as he's a disgusting fat guy, and a character that I can't stand...he's not being displayed...so whatever...
BOTTOM-LINE: TOY-BIZ woulda' done better...and I hope they fix these when they get the license back...
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SHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!
Don't tell anyone!!!!!!
We need as many customers as possible to keep buying them.
Sincerely,
Jack Hasbro
CEO
Hasbro Toys
Bone Stupid, Rhode Island
seriously, if all you are going to do is complain and be pissed off at hasbro then you need to stop cloggin up the threads. it's because of you they are unpleasant for others to read since they have to see you constantly saying the same thing over and over again. we get it,you hate hasbro, get over it already. no one really cares anymore what you think or want to complain about since we have heard the same things over and over again.
now onto the upcoming marvel lines. i have to say that i think they are getting better. i like just about all of the upcoming lines. the daredevil looks cool and so does the tigra and punisher. all in all they look better.
Seriously...if you don't like my posts, don't read them.
Frankly, I think we need to censor all the posts that say "You need ta' stop postin' 'cause I don't like what you say!"...
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So let's say you wake up one day and magically become the head of the Marvel department at Hasbro, what would you do with the line?
1. I would fire whoever has been running the show. I would fire the designers, fire whoever was responsible for Emma Frost too @lol@
2. To replace those guys, I would make design decisions myself and continue to use Toybiz sculptors. (Hasbro has been using some of the same sculptors, but the differences are obvious in their work. Hasbro's designs are a lot more cartoony and less detailed.)
3.. I would go back and take a few figures already released in HML1, and 2 and retool them.
Banshee gets his collar and a new face.
Hercules gets a new face and a normal skin tone.
Emma gets new head.... maybe a new body... maybe an entirely new figure.
All of HML2 would get their protoype heads back, instead of the cheesy ones they were actually given.
All of HML2 would get nice paint washes.
4. I would HALT production of all future waves and fix some glaring issues, which will be named later. figures that most obviously need help the most:
Ratchel - bad articulation, preskool head (Hasbro styled joints)
Blackbolt - dopey eyes, bad articulation
Nova - goofy head, needs paint detail.
Tigra - ugly articulation
NAMOR - throw this figure away, a completely new figure is needed
Invisible Woman - HORRIBLE costume choice, stupid face, ugly joints
ALL the Spiderman wave.
5. NO MORE Hasbro joints, ever. Don't mess with something that aint broke, Toybiz's articulation is what made Marvel Legends. Not all of it is needed, but double knees and elbows, bicep swivels, etc.. standard. Some figures need more articulation, but none of them need Hasbr's ugly joints.
6. NO MORE cheesy face sculpts. Many Toybiz figures were victims of this, but it has become the standard for Hasbro.
7. Return of paint washes. Tiybiz did it. Mattel does it. WHy can't Hasbro? It really helps bring out the sculpting details and makes figures look much better.
8. Bigger BAF, or less figures needed to make one. It's a shame that it takes 8 figures to make Blob, and he really isn't that big. You should get something bigger for 80 bucks.
9. More accessories. Again, for 10 bucks, the customer deserves more.
10. NO MORE MOVIE figures. if you need to make movie figures, give them their own series. If the stores won't order them, then they must realze that these figures shouldn't be made in the first place.
11. CHange packaging. I like the look of the packaging, but its unpractical. It should be more symmetrical. I wouldn't have changed the packaging from Toybiz's if I were in charge. It makes sense if I can get old Toybiz collectors to continue their MOC collections because the Hasbro packaging fits in with their old stuff... I want customers to buy 2 of each figure. Hasbro packaging isn't made to be kept MOC.
12. actually get my product in the store.
So...in other words...you'd dump HASBRO. And that's the only conclusion one could draw from that post. Doing everything you say would entail dumping HASBRO.
But be careful...the "I-HEART-HASBRO" crowd will go BESERK if they see that!
HASBRO - gone in 2 years!
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So let's say you wake up one day and magically become the head of the Marvel department at Hasbro, what would you do with the line?
1. I would fire whoever has been running the show. I would fire the designers, fire whoever was responsible for Emma Frost too @lol@
2. To replace those guys, I would make design decisions myself and continue to use Toybiz sculptors. (Hasbro has been using some of the same sculptors, but the differences are obvious in their work. Hasbro's designs are a lot more cartoony and less detailed.)
3.. I would go back and take a few figures already released in HML1, and 2 and retool them.
Banshee gets his collar and a new face.
Hercules gets a new face and a normal skin tone.
Emma gets new head.... maybe a new body... maybe an entirely new figure.
All of HML2 would get their protoype heads back, instead of the cheesy ones they were actually given.
All of HML2 would get nice paint washes.
4. I would HALT production of all future waves and fix some glaring issues, which will be named later. figures that most obviously need help the most:
Ratchel - bad articulation, preskool head (Hasbro styled joints)
Blackbolt - dopey eyes, bad articulation
Nova - goofy head, needs paint detail.
Tigra - ugly articulation
NAMOR - throw this figure away, a completely new figure is needed
Invisible Woman - HORRIBLE costume choice, stupid face, ugly joints
ALL the Spiderman wave.
5. NO MORE Hasbro joints, ever. Don't mess with something that aint broke, Toybiz's articulation is what made Marvel Legends. Not all of it is needed, but double knees and elbows, bicep swivels, etc.. standard. Some figures need more articulation, but none of them need Hasbr's ugly joints.
6. NO MORE cheesy face sculpts. Many Toybiz figures were victims of this, but it has become the standard for Hasbro.
7. Return of paint washes. Tiybiz did it. Mattel does it. WHy can't Hasbro? It really helps bring out the sculpting details and makes figures look much better.
8. Bigger BAF, or less figures needed to make one. It's a shame that it takes 8 figures to make Blob, and he really isn't that big. You should get something bigger for 80 bucks.
9. More accessories. Again, for 10 bucks, the customer deserves more.
10. NO MORE MOVIE figures. if you need to make movie figures, give them their own series. If the stores won't order them, then they must realze that these figures shouldn't be made in the first place.
11. CHange packaging. I like the look of the packaging, but its unpractical. It should be more symmetrical. I wouldn't have changed the packaging from Toybiz's if I were in charge. It makes sense if I can get old Toybiz collectors to continue their MOC collections because the Hasbro packaging fits in with their old stuff... I want customers to buy 2 of each figure. Hasbro packaging isn't made to be kept MOC.
12. actually get my product in the store.
So...in other words...you'd dump HASBRO. And that's the only conclusion one could draw from that post. Doing everything you say would entail dumping HASBRO.
But be careful...the "I-HEART-HASBRO" crowd will go BESERK if they see that!
HASBRO - gone in 2 years!
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LOL!
Maybe because, like most of the HASBRO / Marvel offerings, they sucked?????????
Man, it's hard being soooooo right all the time!!!!!
Keep doin' what you're doin' HASBRO!
Let's see...I see MARVEL TOYS getting this license back in...oh, 2 years??
BWAH-HAH-HAH-HAH!!!!!
@firedevil@
I think hasbro has the license for the next 5 years. So even if some lines did fail, you would be out out of luck
A license can be pulled at any time by the licensee...ANYTIME...for no reason. It's standard contracting language.
@hmmm@
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SHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!
Don't tell anyone!!!!!!
We need as many customers as possible to keep buying them.
Sincerely,
Jack Hasbro
CEO
Hasbro Toys
Bone Stupid, Rhode Island
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LOL!
Maybe because, like most of the HASBRO / Marvel offerings, they sucked?????????
Man, it's hard being soooooo right all the time!!!!!
Keep doin' what you're doin' HASBRO!
Let's see...I see MARVEL TOYS getting this license back in...oh, 2 years??
BWAH-HAH-HAH-HAH!!!!!
@firedevil@
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Oh it's on. No Hasbro bashing fool disses my FA Storm and gets away with it.
I'll tell you when the nightmare will end. The second you stop whining about the past and complaining about the present. Just get off it already. Who the hell are you to go around and say that a figure is "sub-standard" as though your opinion decides the standards of every figure. If you don't like a figure, that's fine. Sit there and complain about how you don't like it until you're blue in the face and your eyes pop out for all I care, but the second you insult my opinion of a quality figure, that's too far
As for my joke about a blank stare, it was an opportunity for a joke I would've made to anyone. Even the almighty JayC himself.
Oooooohhhhhh...
It's "on"!!! I'm shakin' in my PJs!
Who am I to say that a figure is "sub-standard"? Easy...I'm a guy on a message board with an opinion...just like you are.
Don't like it? Boo-Hoo!!! Have a good cry.
By the way...You do realize that you're defending the honor of a figure that hasn't even been produced, right??? Just checking. Your overly emotional response was...unusual to say the least.
Let me give you a preview of HASBRO's FA Storm:
She'll have a dumb, vapid look on her face, skinny legs and arms, and very little detailing. Basically, they'll re-use the horrendous Emma Frost mold, and make slight modifications.
In other words...she'll suck.
Now who's having a nightmare??
@loll@
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Uggh...
Cable has the typical HASBRO-Legends face...
Stupid, blank expression, and minimal paint details...like, none.
It's 1996 all over again. In fact, TOY-BIZ figs from 1996 had better sculpts than this.
These are CRAP.
Exactly what I'd expect from HASBRO.
...keep alienating your base...like the Republicans in '06...and watch what happens, you dim-wits...
at least these figures have expression on there face unlike the blank stare of ToyBiz ( and no im not saying i agree with Hasbro so don't try and turn this into another Hasbro Vs Toybiz argument)
What "Blank stare" are you referring to???
Your's @loll@ @loll@ @loll@
Just kidding.
Oh yeah...you're the guy who's all giddy because HASBRO is soon to be making a sub-standard FA Storm for your collecting pleasure...
...enjoy...
@smilepunch@
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Here's some quick shots for everybody...the head swap is hassle free too
...zzzzzz....ZZZZZZZZZ...zzzzzzzz...
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Hey Guys.....
Hasbro won't ship to Canada!!
Anyone interested in helping out a fellow toy collector to the North by ordering and extra set? Be happy to pay the costs plus another few bucks for your trouble!!
Let me know!
I may have an extra set, pm me in a couple of days...
Ya' know, if Canada would stop pretending that they're an independent country and officially join the USA, this problem could be alleviated...
...but we're not taking Quebec. NO Frenchies!!!
@loll@
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Uggh...
Cable has the typical HASBRO-Legends face...
Stupid, blank expression, and minimal paint details...like, none.
It's 1996 all over again. In fact, TOY-BIZ figs from 1996 had better sculpts than this.
These are CRAP.
Exactly what I'd expect from HASBRO.
...keep alienating your base...like the Republicans in '06...and watch what happens, you dim-wits...
at least these figures have expression on there face unlike the blank stare of ToyBiz ( and no im not saying i agree with Hasbro so don't try and turn this into another Hasbro Vs Toybiz argument)
What "Blank stare" are you referring to???
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Uggh...
Cable has the typical HASBRO-Legends face...
Stupid, blank expression, and minimal paint details...like, none.
It's 1996 all over again. In fact, TOY-BIZ figs from 1996 had better details than this.
These are CRAP.
Exactly what I'd expect from HASBRO.
...keep alienating your base...like the Republicans in '06...and watch what happens, you dim-wits...
WHEN WILL THIS BAD DREAM END?!?!?
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Gee, thanks for the review...
This figure came out, what? 6 months ago??
His costume is blue??? He has white hair??? Ya' don't say!!!
...Old news...zzzzzzzzzzz...ZZZZZ...zzzzzzzz
...but hey...that's just my opinion...
And HASBRO sucks.