Marc Guggenheim Feels He Wasted His Time And Is Disappointed With DC

[Outsiders]

Marc Guggenheim, the creator of the Arrowverse, and one of the creators of Crisis on Infinite Earths, the CW’s crossover event that brought together DC shows like Arrow, The Flash, Supergirl, Batwoman, and Legends of Tomorrow, has expressed his disappointment and feels as if he wasted his time with everything he did for the DC universe, and wanted to know why he never received a call or even a meeting from Peter Safran and James Gunn to construct the new DC Universe.

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“Not a job, mind you. A meeting. A conversation. A small recognition of what I’d tried to contribute to the grand tapestry that is the DC Universe. I’d only spent nine years toiling in that vineyard, after all,” Guggenheim wrote in his Legal Dispatch newsletter dated Feb. 3.

He added, “Although working for DC had been creatively fulfilling, it involved a lot of adversity, challenges, and personal sacrifices — none of which seem to have accrued to any professional benefit. Simply put, the Arrowverse hasn’t led to any other gigs, so it feels — at least on a career level — that I really wasted my time.”

 

Source: Deadline

[Satam]

Waaaaaaaaaah!
Guggenheim (and Berlanti) made cheesy soap operas with superheroes in them. I wouldn't call him either.

[thetruth1013]

The arrow verse was far from perfect, but it was miles better as a universe on the small screen than the Synder verse. The last crisis event they did (with Routh as KC Supes) was fantastic to me. I’m sure the creator will land on his feet. Superman and Lois is at least getting this season and I’m sure he created that Gotham knights show. 

[Satam]

13 minutes ago, thetruth1013 said:

Superman and Lois is at least getting this season and I’m sure he created that Gotham knights show. 

Gotham Knights was created by Natalie Abrams, Chad Fiveash, and James Patrick Stotereaux. Greg Berlanti has his name on it as an EP. Guggenheim has zero involvement. He doesn't have anything to do with Superman and Lois, either. Berlanti did that without him. Guggenheim's DC involvement ended with Legends of Tomorrow.

[eddff]

The WB arroverse was the worst. Arrow was the best of the shows but even that to me was good for TV. Nothing in the arrowverse Guggenheim and Berlantu made showed they could be on par with cinematic level storytelling like what James Gunn was able to pull off with Guardians. What is strange to me is Guggenheim is actually depressed because he actually believes he's on the same level as the creatives of the mcu (pre Endgame). WB superhero shows are known to be fun cheesy soap opera shows so he severely overestimated himself. If anything, the arrowverse ruined his reputation as the shows are getting worse as time goes on. Ratings have dipped lower and lower since the end of Arrow.

 

[SpiderS]

Arrow verse wasn’t for me, as said above it was cheesy, simplistic soap operas but it still had its moments that time to time paid respect to bigger DC universe, at least it wasn’t ashamed of its comic book roots. But weirdly last few MCU projects like Ms. Marvel, Quantummania feel a lot like something that could have been part of CW universe. 

[Artoyz]

DC in general is a bad bet. If you make  it work and profitable for the shareholders than awesome for you. But yeah none of those shows looked worth watching.

[Goldbug]

so he feels like I do whenever I watch a DC movie

Arrowverse started fine for me
Flash has been the most consistent one I like

all the others veered off from their comic stories