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4 hours ago, NeedlessImmortals said:

I'm pretty much a hoarder at this point lol I think everything has some sort of value. I currently live in the country and for whatever reason there is a small deadzone right where my house is so we have all this special equipment just to get any sort of internet and its still incredibly shoddy.

Thats my main reason for not liking DLC, I want all the stuff on the disk in case the servers ever go down, or my account gets erased or anything really. I dont want all my time, effort, and money just disappearing for no reason.

That sucks about your net connection, in todays world thats like "roughin" it. 

Thats the sad part of the online stuff and relying on games to have an online connection, you cant go back to those games if they are deleted and no online. I like playing some old games and seeing my customized characters and just how I played and all that fun stuff. When games turn solely on streaming, it will be a sad day in gaming. 

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20 hours ago, EvilHayato said:

That sucks about your net connection, in todays world thats like "roughin" it. 

Thats the sad part of the online stuff and relying on games to have an online connection, you cant go back to those games if they are deleted and no online. I like playing some old games and seeing my customized characters and just how I played and all that fun stuff. When games turn solely on streaming, it will be a sad day in gaming. 

Nah it'll be a good day because then we can just go back to our huge libray of games and replay them all while knowing that we finally can save a buttload of money now that we don't have to buy games anymore!?

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43 minutes ago, NeedlessImmortals said:

Nah it'll be a good day because then we can just go back to our huge libray of games and replay them all while knowing that we finally can save a buttload of money now that we don't have to buy games anymore!?

True, Im pretty deterred by games when they are labeled as online only. Im actually pretty skeptical about Fallout 76 because of this. I have a pretty stable connection but I like being able to future proof my game experiences. The only limitations to playing a game should be if you have the game or not. (aside from being on the computer and your specs limitations that is). And yeah I have a few backlog games as well as my older console games. and thats not counting all the games I have emulated which is a fu$# ton of them. 

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Wait Fallout 76 is online only? ? If thats so I'm gonna cancel my collectors edition that I have preordered. I don't mind games with online features but I just cant keep up with online only games. I have so many games that I havent even touched yet, most from this year. I just started playing the new Fist of the North Star game and I'm still in the middle of 5 others.

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1 hour ago, NeedlessImmortals said:

Wait Fallout 76 is online only? ? If thats so I'm gonna cancel my collectors edition that I have preordered. I don't mind games with online features but I just cant keep up with online only games. I have so many games that I havent even touched yet, most from this year. I just started playing the new Fist of the North Star game and I'm still in the middle of 5 others.

Its strictly multiplayer online. I would assume its online only unless they state otherwise. I think you can do private servers and such but its all multiplayer focused. Did you just think it was another fallout game? I dont have alot of new games so my backlog consists of games that ive got for cheap that ive just not gotten to yet. None were full priced that Ive sat on. I guess a positive for not having a crap ton of money to spend. You gotta have a good focus when completing games.. I have a few ive started but will not start another until some are completed. 

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3 hours ago, EvilHayato said:

Its strictly multiplayer online. I would assume its online only unless they state otherwise. I think you can do private servers and such but its all multiplayer focused. Did you just think it was another fallout game? I dont have alot of new games so my backlog consists of games that ive got for cheap that ive just not gotten to yet. None were full priced that Ive sat on. I guess a positive for not having a crap ton of money to spend. You gotta have a good focus when completing games.. I have a few ive started but will not start another until some are completed. 

Honestly yeah lol what I do is I just preorder everything and mark everything down on my calendar so I can plan ahead so if I don't have the cash I'll just cancel my order and if I do I get it. I used to be a hardcore gamer back in the day so I still have that mindset that I have to get and play everything that comes out even though I don't have that kind of time anymore so they just sit on my shelf. But recently I've been lending my games out to my sister to play so at least they're getting some use.

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10 hours ago, NeedlessImmortals said:

Honestly yeah lol what I do is I just preorder everything and mark everything down on my calendar so I can plan ahead so if I don't have the cash I'll just cancel my order and if I do I get it. I used to be a hardcore gamer back in the day so I still have that mindset that I have to get and play everything that comes out even though I don't have that kind of time anymore so they just sit on my shelf. But recently I've been lending my games out to my sister to play so at least they're getting some use.

Wow. Thats kind of crazy to do. I definitely cant do that these days, but preordering for me is very different. I cant buy my games at stores since im on pc so its all based online. I think most of the online stores dont allow cancellations of preorders so if you are preordering, you are buying it no matter what so you better be sure you have the funds and are certain you want the game(s). I also cant afford buying full priced games if they are going to collect dust. So many games come out these days too so I have to be selective as to which will get my attention and time to play them. Having no current generation console helps me since my choices are much more limited too. 

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On 10/10/2018 at 8:07 AM, EvilHayato said:

Wow. Thats kind of crazy to do. I definitely cant do that these days, but preordering for me is very different. I cant buy my games at stores since im on pc so its all based online. I think most of the online stores dont allow cancellations of preorders so if you are preordering, you are buying it no matter what so you better be sure you have the funds and are certain you want the game(s). I also cant afford buying full priced games if they are going to collect dust. So many games come out these days too so I have to be selective as to which will get my attention and time to play them. Having no current generation console helps me since my choices are much more limited too. 

Funny enough I had planned to have enough funds for all of my preorders this month but the money I was counting on getting yesterday isn't happening anymore so now I'm kinda in panic mode cause I have so much crap coming through soon. I canceled what I could but theres a few big things that I put a hefty down payment on which I don't want to lose so I'm trying to figure something out. So yeah, you definitely have the right idea, here a few weeks ago I thought I was going to be set for the rest of the year. 

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2 hours ago, NeedlessImmortals said:

Funny enough I had planned to have enough funds for all of my preorders this month but the money I was counting on getting yesterday isn't happening anymore so now I'm kinda in panic mode cause I have so much crap coming through soon. I canceled what I could but theres a few big things that I put a hefty down payment on which I don't want to lose so I'm trying to figure something out. So yeah, you definitely have the right idea, here a few weeks ago I thought I was going to be set for the rest of the year. 

One of the great things about playing games on PC is you can always find them cheap (cheaper) even on day one. I just preordered Soulcalibur 6 yesterday for $45. Not a terrible price. Im going to wait and see how the early reviews say about Fallout 76 but I can get that for $42 so I may be able to hit that up to if it isnt terrible. Im also waiting on my buddy to tell me the total so I can pay him as well. I also want to have enough to snag Goro next month. That ll pretty much be it for me in buying stuff for myself for the year. 

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On 10/11/2018 at 7:18 PM, EvilHayato said:

One of the great things about playing games on PC is you can always find them cheap (cheaper) even on day one. I just preordered Soulcalibur 6 yesterday for $45. Not a terrible price. Im going to wait and see how the early reviews say about Fallout 76 but I can get that for $42 so I may be able to hit that up to if it isnt terrible. Im also waiting on my buddy to tell me the total so I can pay him as well. I also want to have enough to snag Goro next month. That ll pretty much be it for me in buying stuff for myself for the year. 

My problem with PC games (and this is my fault) is that they don't seem real to me, for example, I mentioned before that I paid $300 on DLC for DOA only to later fin out that they released 4 other season passes for $99 each so I said f%#$ that and downloaded a cracked copy of the game with every costume and it completely killed all the fun because I no longer had challenges to unlock or bragging rights, or even be able to say that I bought the DLC. Same thing with playing on a private F2P server vs paying for a sub, for whatever reason by not paying for it it makes me feel like it holds less value. As for buying legit PC games I've always had the mindset that games are for consoles, I like being able to show off my gaming collection and lending games to people so I generally go that route. I read that Fallout 76 was going to be playable solo but there aren't any NPCs because all the interaction will be from other players so that seems weird. I'm probably going to cancel that one because money is so tight right now. Is Goro for sure next month? I've seen people with him and the evil Ryu/Ken already, I've actually been worrying on how I'm going to pay for those if they show up next week so if they are later that would be a huge load off.

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1 hour ago, NeedlessImmortals said:

My problem with PC games (and this is my fault) is that they don't seem real to me, for example, I mentioned before that I paid $300 on DLC for DOA only to later fin out that they released 4 other season passes for $99 each so I said f%#$ that and downloaded a cracked copy of the game with every costume and it completely killed all the fun because I no longer had challenges to unlock or bragging rights, or even be able to say that I bought the DLC. Same thing with playing on a private F2P server vs paying for a sub, for whatever reason by not paying for it it makes me feel like it holds less value. As for buying legit PC games I've always had the mindset that games are for consoles, I like being able to show off my gaming collection and lending games to people so I generally go that route. I read that Fallout 76 was going to be playable solo but there aren't any NPCs because all the interaction will be from other players so that seems weird. I'm probably going to cancel that one because money is so tight right now. Is Goro for sure next month? I've seen people with him and the evil Ryu/Ken already, I've actually been worrying on how I'm going to pay for those if they show up next week so if they are later that would be a huge load off.

Whoa whoa whoa... having games on your pc doesnt mean you pirate them. They have established DRM/ libraries where you can access your games and have the pride of ownership. I get having a pirated game and it feeling like a hollow thing and not something that has value. I pirate games to try them out and to use that to ensure the games on my wishlist are going to be what i like. Ive pirated games originally just to play them and not pay for them but usually if i put so many hours into them, I end up buying them anyways. I did that for Fallout 4 when it first came out, put in 30 hours and said im done until I buy it and I did. I definitely dont understand the notion of free online multiplayer vs paid. Its a service that was always free from the start and these companies decided its time their players became payers and they only sweeten the deal by adding a few incentive 'free' games when you do. Playing on pc isnt like setting up a server to play a game or anything, altho thats something you can do for just about any game. Newer games act exactly like they do on console except you arent paying double to play them online like you do for console. I even can use my 360 controllers (which I do) to play on pc.. but you can also use PS3/4 and xbox one controllers too, another reason I enjoy pc since that stuff works I dont have to buy new hardware to game. Thats so weird to think that would be any less value, if anything you are paying TOO much for it. Also most console games these days are glorified drm install discs. They are just there to have spin in your console to let the company know you actually indeed own that title and then proceed to install updates and run it. I understand physical media is great and I enjoy owning them too. Having mostly digital stuff anymore has its ups and downs. More physical space is a pro but not having the cool art and non instruction manual and drm disc kind of sucks? but not really since they are a shell of what they used to be.. I can also install these games and bring my computer somewhere or if i had a laptop, take those games with me without actually physically hauling them. I also dont have many friends that dont already have the new games and most are married so they just do that all on their own time and dont have as much time to game except for the ones they already have. 

Its playable solo but you are still going to be online and still have people in your server. You can mute them tho which basically makes them disappear in your world but they are still there. Its true there are no human npcs. You get most of your quests from mr handys and other robot type creatures as well as logs etc. Its more desolate and less lived in than the previous games. The games main focus tho is playing with other players. The main interaction with other players is mostly co op based and if you want to, fight them. You cant just get quests from random players or anything. The story is also more told in logs and stuff you have to read rather than just talking to people which I dont like. 

Cancel what one? Rain? Goro is indeed hitting next month. He technically already hit as he was sold at NYCC last week. Violent Ken and Evil Ryu were also premiered and sold at NYCC. Basically all the stuff they are bringing out for the rest of the year was sold at NYCC first. I cant believe how much V Ken and E Ryu are.. and they dont really look that great. Too bulky to me and they tower over the ninjas which is so effing weird. 

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1 hour ago, EvilHayato said:

Whoa whoa whoa... having games on your pc doesnt mean you pirate them. They have established DRM/ libraries where you can access your games and have the pride of ownership. I get having a pirated game and it feeling like a hollow thing and not something that has value. I pirate games to try them out and to use that to ensure the games on my wishlist are going to be what i like. Ive pirated games originally just to play them and not pay for them but usually if i put so many hours into them, I end up buying them anyways. I did that for Fallout 4 when it first came out, put in 30 hours and said im done until I buy it and I did. I definitely dont understand the notion of free online multiplayer vs paid. Its a service that was always free from the start and these companies decided its time their players became payers and they only sweeten the deal by adding a few incentive 'free' games when you do. Playing on pc isnt like setting up a server to play a game or anything, altho thats something you can do for just about any game. Newer games act exactly like they do on console except you arent paying double to play them online like you do for console. I even can use my 360 controllers (which I do) to play on pc.. but you can also use PS3/4 and xbox one controllers too, another reason I enjoy pc since that stuff works I dont have to buy new hardware to game. Thats so weird to think that would be any less value, if anything you are paying TOO much for it. Also most console games these days are glorified drm install discs. They are just there to have spin in your console to let the company know you actually indeed own that title and then proceed to install updates and run it. I understand physical media is great and I enjoy owning them too. Having mostly digital stuff anymore has its ups and downs. More physical space is a pro but not having the cool art and non instruction manual and drm disc kind of sucks? but not really since they are a shell of what they used to be.. I can also install these games and bring my computer somewhere or if i had a laptop, take those games with me without actually physically hauling them. I also dont have many friends that dont already have the new games and most are married so they just do that all on their own time and dont have as much time to game except for the ones they already have. 

Its playable solo but you are still going to be online and still have people in your server. You can mute them tho which basically makes them disappear in your world but they are still there. Its true there are no human npcs. You get most of your quests from mr handys and other robot type creatures as well as logs etc. Its more desolate and less lived in than the previous games. The games main focus tho is playing with other players. The main interaction with other players is mostly co op based and if you want to, fight them. You cant just get quests from random players or anything. The story is also more told in logs and stuff you have to read rather than just talking to people which I dont like. 

Cancel what one? Rain? Goro is indeed hitting next month. He technically already hit as he was sold at NYCC last week. Violent Ken and Evil Ryu were also premiered and sold at NYCC. Basically all the stuff they are bringing out for the rest of the year was sold at NYCC first. I cant believe how much V Ken and E Ryu are.. and they dont really look that great. Too bulky to me and they tower over the ninjas which is so effing weird. 

Oh no, Its more of my mindset, I know theres nothing wrong with playing on PC, and I do have a few games on mine. Mods kind of bug me on PC though, cause its like why did I just pay for a game that everyone else is exploiting and most likely didnt even pay for themselves. With PC games you can do just about anything and completely recreate the game if you want or have the talent. Which is cool and all but it tends to devalue the whole gaming experience for me. Like Mugen, if you ever played that, you could have any character you want fight on whatever stage you want which was cool for awhile but took away all the fun, I guess in some ways I like having limits. And like for DOA, MK, or SF, nude mods are cool but then it kills all the hard work or money you put in to get a skimpy costume and even then its like meh and you just end up going back to a regular costume anyways. So for me I've always had this warped mindset of if you want to play the game the right way play on console if you want to exploit the game play on PC, which is totally wrong but if I play a game on the PC I'm going to look for mods and realistically I'd probably just pirate the game if I'm going to do that. 

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38 minutes ago, NeedlessImmortals said:

Oh no, Its more of my mindset, I know theres nothing wrong with playing on PC, and I do have a few games on mine. Mods kind of bug me on PC though, cause its like why did I just pay for a game that everyone else is exploiting and most likely didnt even pay for themselves. With PC games you can do just about anything and completely recreate the game if you want or have the talent. Which is cool and all but it tends to devalue the whole gaming experience for me. Like Mugen, if you ever played that, you could have any character you want fight on whatever stage you want which was cool for awhile but took away all the fun, I guess in some ways I like having limits. And like for DOA, MK, or SF, nude mods are cool but then it kills all the hard work or money you put in to get a skimpy costume and even then its like meh and you just end up going back to a regular costume anyways. So for me I've always had this warped mindset of if you want to play the game the right way play on console if you want to exploit the game play on PC, which is totally wrong but if I play a game on the PC I'm going to look for mods and realistically I'd probably just pirate the game if I'm going to do that. 

Mods arent typically available in multiplayer games.. that would be called hacks and thats also fairly controlled.... unless you are playing GTA Online.. then its completely balls to the wall all over. I would agree when it comes to that kind of thing, it can be a bit annoying. But again Ive only really had these kind of things in GTAO. I have not witnessed anything in my other multiplayer games except in gta. Not even in my fighters. I also never see pirated games online. I follow that scene and its usually the minute they log in, they are caught and banned or cant even log in to begin with. You can indeed edit the files and do with the games what you will if you are knowledgable in that dept but you cant take that #$## online. Mods are typically for your own thing most commonly in skyrim and fallout for examples. Ive played man Mugen games hehe. Theres actually been a few really good homebrew games based on Mugen. One in particular is a DBZ game thats really done well. Mugen is also made to be Unbalanced and out of control. Theres actually a website where they run mugen online and take fake bets on them called saltybet.com. Its hilarious. Also in any game, you cant see the mods unless you yourself have them so any nude mods that you see, you had to have downloaded them to even view them in game. I dont do mods at all, but I like taht they are there if I so wanted them to be. For like costume mods they can be great because some may improve upon what was originally made like originally someone made a mod of Birdie that was younger less fat self. Theres others that cross licenses which will like turn Ken into a power ranger and stuff like that. It adds more fun if you so choose to do it. Also for me I enjoy playing the games as they were meant to be played but having the option of mods is great. Like I play skyrim pretty much mod free but I did do one where my companion doesnt die because she kept dying and I couldnt bring her back. Stuff like that can save a game from being unfun. You really have a funny mindset haha. 

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On 10/14/2018 at 8:36 PM, EvilHayato said:

Mods arent typically available in multiplayer games.. that would be called hacks and thats also fairly controlled.... unless you are playing GTA Online.. then its completely balls to the wall all over. I would agree when it comes to that kind of thing, it can be a bit annoying. But again Ive only really had these kind of things in GTAO. I have not witnessed anything in my other multiplayer games except in gta. Not even in my fighters. I also never see pirated games online. I follow that scene and its usually the minute they log in, they are caught and banned or cant even log in to begin with. You can indeed edit the files and do with the games what you will if you are knowledgable in that dept but you cant take that #$## online. Mods are typically for your own thing most commonly in skyrim and fallout for examples. Ive played man Mugen games hehe. Theres actually been a few really good homebrew games based on Mugen. One in particular is a DBZ game thats really done well. Mugen is also made to be Unbalanced and out of control. Theres actually a website where they run mugen online and take fake bets on them called saltybet.com. Its hilarious. Also in any game, you cant see the mods unless you yourself have them so any nude mods that you see, you had to have downloaded them to even view them in game. I dont do mods at all, but I like taht they are there if I so wanted them to be. For like costume mods they can be great because some may improve upon what was originally made like originally someone made a mod of Birdie that was younger less fat self. Theres others that cross licenses which will like turn Ken into a power ranger and stuff like that. It adds more fun if you so choose to do it. Also for me I enjoy playing the games as they were meant to be played but having the option of mods is great. Like I play skyrim pretty much mod free but I did do one where my companion doesnt die because she kept dying and I couldnt bring her back. Stuff like that can save a game from being unfun. You really have a funny mindset haha. 

I've only done few mods in MMOs and they were all purely aesthetic like you said to make things look better or give a different take. And yeah, I know its weird, I like having restrictions sometimes to make it more enjoyable. When I know I have the power to make something easier or get past it I generally do so playing on a console basically removes that option for me lol

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