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Fine, if Warner is making DC shake things up and in return are making Mattel shake things up then what Mattel is doing with the subscription is nice....but its still another bill. The problem is that the blame it too focused on Mattel and not DC/Warner bros who is pushing this change to go through. Even still, the idea of the subscription isn't bad but at the same time that is an extra financial burden for collectors. The only way the subscritption would be good for me is if they reduce the amount of figures in their new rebranded line, I am talking about down to 4 or 5 figures, that way buying the sub and having a monthly bill won't be so bad.

This isn't DC/Warners doing. This is Matty trying to milk the consumer for every last cent they can.

 

For DC/Warner's part, especially considering the reboot they're trying to sell, I expect they'll get real tired of Matty's little "subscribe or such-n-such won't be released in retail" games.

 

DC wants their characters out there, in public, getting to as many people as possible. Matty, once you get past the CIA mentality and over-inflated sense of self-importance, is just another licensor. Just like the companies that made my Super Powers boxer-shorts or those Green Lantern activity books at the Dollar Store, it's Matty's job to get those characters out there. If DC decides Matty isn't doing their job . . . they're out. No more Four Horsemen, no more Fangirl, no more 80 dollar five-packs. Hasbro gets another billion dollar property and Mattel's living off welfare and Barbie money.

 

i don't know dude, I see it as DC/Warner trying to push the new rebranding agenda. Think about it, if this was business as usual then Mattel would not of had this much time to make drastic changes on short notice. If we see a new line focusing on mainly new characters and leaving old designs in the dust then I believe it's a DC/Warner thing.

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you see this i can accept. financial reasons is fine in my book. the prices went up on everything. if someone has to pay bills and all its sure that you have to think twice about it. but if mattel or warner wants to try something new, in hope that it turns out in everyones favor then lets try it out before we bash it.

 

i dont believe that warner is pushing mattel to do anything. someone came up with a concept and a few companys try to work together to make this a huge thing. they will even do tv commercials for the comic reboot. it will be great and if not then we get flashpoint 2 and everything gets set back lol. ok maybe for some it seems harsh that mattel says it like this. to me i dont care how they wanna sell the product. i want dcuc figures and ivy, atrocitus are on my top list. if i read an article, i see facts and what has to be done. well fact is classics is history. the companys wanna do something new and in a big way. if it helps pushing sales for them then why the hell not. what has to be done to keep classics going? get the sub, ok done, if one can afford it but dont come: ohh mattel is so mean, like a baby who got no presents for christmas and my favorite character isnt up there.... geeee i want a conduit figure since they started and i dont have it yet, i am still alive and can live without it.

 

To some extent fans are being held hostage because having the sub forces them into a year long agreement and who is to say that people want all the figures coming out. I don't have a MOTUC because sometimes I may only want one of a figure, sometimes two, sometimes none and I don't want the hassle of being locked into something I may not want. I can respect people who don't want a sub but do want DC figures.

 

Plain and simple, people want the DCUC line to continue as is, most don't want a rebrand and most don't want to be locked into a year long sub.

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you see this i can accept. financial reasons is fine in my book. the prices went up on everything. if someone has to pay bills and all its sure that you have to think twice about it. but if mattel or warner wants to try something new, in hope that it turns out in everyones favor then lets try it out before we bash it.

 

i dont believe that warner is pushing mattel to do anything. someone came up with a concept and a few companys try to work together to make this a huge thing. they will even do tv commercials for the comic reboot. it will be great and if not then we get flashpoint 2 and everything gets set back lol. ok maybe for some it seems harsh that mattel says it like this. to me i dont care how they wanna sell the product. i want dcuc figures and ivy, atrocitus are on my top list. if i read an article, i see facts and what has to be done. well fact is classics is history. the companys wanna do something new and in a big way. if it helps pushing sales for them then why the hell not. what has to be done to keep classics going? get the sub, ok done, if one can afford it but dont come: ohh mattel is so mean, like a baby who got no presents for christmas and my favorite character isnt up there.... geeee i want a conduit figure since they started and i dont have it yet, i am still alive and can live without it.

 

To some extent fans are being held hostage because having the sub forces them into a year long agreement and who is to say that people want all the figures coming out. I don't have a MOTUC because sometimes I may only want one of a figure, sometimes two, sometimes none and I don't want the hassle of being locked into something I may not want. I can respect people who don't want a sub but do want DC figures.

 

Plain and simple, people want the DCUC line to continue as is, most don't want a rebrand and most don't want to be locked into a year long sub.

 

 

and these people are not forced into the sub but behave like that. the sub is meant to get the line going. mattel needs a certain amount to go into production and the rest is sold on sale day when matty releases them. thats all. if you are the casual buyer who just gets the one or the other, the sub isnt interesting. now if you are open to learn about the whole dc universe then get the sub. mattel rushed things and people dont know what to expect even do motuc runs for years now. anyway, they could have sold them on matty without the sub. build the hype about great things and offer the sub for 2013 if sales were good. that would have been a great way to sell it. all in all we wont see those great figures anyway looking how everyone is on a fence about it. sad actualy. atrocitus and ivy looked so perfect. for once i wanted a great complete batman rogue and no. i had hope for talia, ras, hush and so many others to come...... i give it up because its impossible to get that meter climb for 75% in a few days. i dont believe in wonders. this is not disney land lol.

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you see this i can accept. financial reasons is fine in my book. the prices went up on everything. if someone has to pay bills and all its sure that you have to think twice about it. but if mattel or warner wants to try something new, in hope that it turns out in everyones favor then lets try it out before we bash it.

 

i dont believe that warner is pushing mattel to do anything. someone came up with a concept and a few companys try to work together to make this a huge thing. they will even do tv commercials for the comic reboot. it will be great and if not then we get flashpoint 2 and everything gets set back lol. ok maybe for some it seems harsh that mattel says it like this. to me i dont care how they wanna sell the product. i want dcuc figures and ivy, atrocitus are on my top list. if i read an article, i see facts and what has to be done. well fact is classics is history. the companys wanna do something new and in a big way. if it helps pushing sales for them then why the hell not. what has to be done to keep classics going? get the sub, ok done, if one can afford it but dont come: ohh mattel is so mean, like a baby who got no presents for christmas and my favorite character isnt up there.... geeee i want a conduit figure since they started and i dont have it yet, i am still alive and can live without it.

 

To some extent fans are being held hostage because having the sub forces them into a year long agreement and who is to say that people want all the figures coming out. I don't have a MOTUC because sometimes I may only want one of a figure, sometimes two, sometimes none and I don't want the hassle of being locked into something I may not want. I can respect people who don't want a sub but do want DC figures.

 

Plain and simple, people want the DCUC line to continue as is, most don't want a rebrand and most don't want to be locked into a year long sub.

 

 

and these people are not forced into the sub but behave like that. the sub is meant to get the line going. mattel needs a certain amount to go into production and the rest is sold on sale day when matty releases them. thats all. if you are the casual buyer who just gets the one or the other, the sub isnt interesting. now if you are open to learn about the whole dc universe then get the sub. mattel rushed things and people dont know what to expect even do motuc runs for years now. anyway, they could have sold them on matty without the sub. build the hype about great things and offer the sub for 2013 if sales were good. that would have been a great way to sell it. all in all we wont see those great figures anyway looking how everyone is on a fence about it. sad actualy. atrocitus and ivy looked so perfect. for once i wanted a great complete batman rogue and no. i had hope for talia, ras, hush and so many others to come...... i give it up because its impossible to get that meter climb for 75% in a few days. i dont believe in wonders. this is not disney land lol.

 

This is why the whole rebranding thing is BAD. It ruined a good thing, sales I am sure were steady but now it does look as if it will go away. The lack of information on the new line, lack of information regarding sub characters are what has kept people on the fence. No one knows what to totally expect or what this new line is supposed to be., this is all Mattel's fault. They should have been open and communicated effectively, not making some random statement at SDCC and some half wit follow-up after everyone went crazy for two days. Mattel is just expecting people to continue with their changes, sort of how Hasbrow did with MU and ML, the difference is that DC fans aren't that dedicated...........that is why suck butt Marvel movies make money.

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Well, I did my part and bought a sub on the first day it was available. I would love to have those figures, but I don't have a need for multiple subs because I open my figures. So hopefully enough people sign up by Friday.

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I just checked Mattycollector's site and they took down the thermometer graphic with the link to the sub. I wonder why they took it down?

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Well, I did my part and bought a sub on the first day it was available. I would love to have those figures, but I don't have a need for multiple subs because I open my figures. So hopefully enough people sign up by Friday.

I bought two on the first day because I want one to open and one to stay MISP.

 

So we have done our part.

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I just checked Mattycollector's site and they took down the thermometer graphic with the link to the sub. I wonder why they took it down?

 

I still see the graphic.

 

 

I don't know what is going on but I bought 3 subs, and it seems most everyone here who bought one signed up for multiple. I wonder what it is such a small increase from zero to 25%. These situations again take all the fun out of toy collecting.

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I just checked Mattycollector's site and they took down the thermometer graphic with the link to the sub. I wonder why they took it down?

 

I still see the graphic.

 

I don't know what is going on but I bought 3 subs, and it seems most everyone here who bought one signed up for multiple. I wonder what it is such a small increase from zero to 25%. These situations again take all the fun out of toy collecting.

 

I still see it to and one still has to wonder what that goal number is. One way or the other it would shed some light on the situation.

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Fine, if Warner is making DC shake things up and in return are making Mattel shake things up then what Mattel is doing with the subscription is nice....but its still another bill. The problem is that the blame it too focused on Mattel and not DC/Warner bros who is pushing this change to go through. Even still, the idea of the subscription isn't bad but at the same time that is an extra financial burden for collectors. The only way the subscritption would be good for me is if they reduce the amount of figures in their new rebranded line, I am talking about down to 4 or 5 figures, that way buying the sub and having a monthly bill won't be so bad.

This isn't DC/Warners doing. This is Matty trying to milk the consumer for every last cent they can.

 

For DC/Warner's part, especially considering the reboot they're trying to sell, I expect they'll get real tired of Matty's little "subscribe or such-n-such won't be released in retail" games.

 

DC wants their characters out there, in public, getting to as many people as possible. Matty, once you get past the CIA mentality and over-inflated sense of self-importance, is just another licensor. Just like the companies that made my Super Powers boxer-shorts or those Green Lantern activity books at the Dollar Store, it's Matty's job to get those characters out there. If DC decides Matty isn't doing their job . . . they're out. No more Four Horsemen, no more Fangirl, no more 80 dollar five-packs. Hasbro gets another billion dollar property and Mattel's living off welfare and Barbie money.

 

How is Mattel not doing its job? Because they don't produce DCUC the way YOU want it to? This is how clueless fanboys like you are.

 

You act like Mattel would fall apart if they lost the DC license.

 

You act like Mattel was granted a toy license just to make a collector's line designed to cater to the five dozen regulars of TNI and The Fwoosh.

 

You act like DC/WB gives a s*** about the subscription when they're relaunching their comics towards younger readers, a new Green Lantern cartoon debuting soon and The Dark Knight Rises coming out in less than a year.

 

Maybe the boundaries aren't clear so let me explain it to you:

 

-It's Mattel's job to make toys.

 

-It's DC and WB's job to produce media that showcase their characters.

 

Well I see plenty of DC toys out on the shelves. Maybe not the ones you want, but you're the one who said, "DC wants their characters out there, in public, getting to as many people as possible...it's Matty's job to get those characters out there."

 

Unless you're going to provide some absurd argument that Jay Garrick and Starman are figures critical to Mattel, DC and WB's success, it looks like mission accomplished.

 

If anything, given the complete inability for DC/WB to produce multiple DC film franchises, it appears the only one not doing their jobs are DC and Warner Brothers.

 

And just to confirm you have no idea what you're talking about, let's look at this tidbit:

 

"Hasbro gets another billion dollar property and Mattel's living off welfare and Barbie money."

 

Well, this might come as a shock to you, but even with Star Wars and Transformers, Mattel's profits far exceed Hasbro's, mainly because of dolls aimed at little girls and mini-cars directed at 45-year-old virgins, which must piss you off royally.

 

And neither one of them make a billion dollars. Who's creating an "over-inflated sense of self-importance" now?

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Fine, if Warner is making DC shake things up and in return are making Mattel shake things up then what Mattel is doing with the subscription is nice....but its still another bill. The problem is that the blame it too focused on Mattel and not DC/Warner bros who is pushing this change to go through. Even still, the idea of the subscription isn't bad but at the same time that is an extra financial burden for collectors. The only way the subscritption would be good for me is if they reduce the amount of figures in their new rebranded line, I am talking about down to 4 or 5 figures, that way buying the sub and having a monthly bill won't be so bad.

This isn't DC/Warners doing. This is Matty trying to milk the consumer for every last cent they can.

 

For DC/Warner's part, especially considering the reboot they're trying to sell, I expect they'll get real tired of Matty's little "subscribe or such-n-such won't be released in retail" games.

 

DC wants their characters out there, in public, getting to as many people as possible. Matty, once you get past the CIA mentality and over-inflated sense of self-importance, is just another licensor. Just like the companies that made my Super Powers boxer-shorts or those Green Lantern activity books at the Dollar Store, it's Matty's job to get those characters out there. If DC decides Matty isn't doing their job . . . they're out. No more Four Horsemen, no more Fangirl, no more 80 dollar five-packs. Hasbro gets another billion dollar property and Mattel's living off welfare and Barbie money.

 

How is Mattel not doing its job? Because they don't produce DCUC the way YOU want it to? This is how clueless fanboys like you are.

We're all supposedly adults expressing our valid opinions here. Let's try and steer away from the name-calling okay.

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Fine, if Warner is making DC shake things up and in return are making Mattel shake things up then what Mattel is doing with the subscription is nice....but its still another bill. The problem is that the blame it too focused on Mattel and not DC/Warner bros who is pushing this change to go through. Even still, the idea of the subscription isn't bad but at the same time that is an extra financial burden for collectors. The only way the subscritption would be good for me is if they reduce the amount of figures in their new rebranded line, I am talking about down to 4 or 5 figures, that way buying the sub and having a monthly bill won't be so bad.

This isn't DC/Warners doing. This is Matty trying to milk the consumer for every last cent they can.

 

For DC/Warner's part, especially considering the reboot they're trying to sell, I expect they'll get real tired of Matty's little "subscribe or such-n-such won't be released in retail" games.

 

DC wants their characters out there, in public, getting to as many people as possible. Matty, once you get past the CIA mentality and over-inflated sense of self-importance, is just another licensor. Just like the companies that made my Super Powers boxer-shorts or those Green Lantern activity books at the Dollar Store, it's Matty's job to get those characters out there. If DC decides Matty isn't doing their job . . . they're out. No more Four Horsemen, no more Fangirl, no more 80 dollar five-packs. Hasbro gets another billion dollar property and Mattel's living off welfare and Barbie money.

 

How is Mattel not doing its job? Because they don't produce DCUC the way YOU want it to? This is how clueless fanboys like you are.

We're all supposedly adults expressing our valid opinions here. Let's try and steer away from the name-calling okay.

 

Nice of you to reduce the facts he proved you wrong with to "name calling." An opinion is indeed quite invalid if the facts supporting it are proven incorrect. Continuing to hold to said opinion in the face of those contradicting facts makes one willfully ignorant. Not an uncommon phenomenon on the internet, though.

 

Make no mistake, virtually all of this mess is absolutely DC/Time-Warner's doing. Anyone thinking otherwise is really not reading between the lines and applying common sense.

 

Then of course the so-called "fans" start getting upset that Mattel isn't telling them what the entire year's worth of products for both mass retail and the subscription will be...despite the fact that they have NEVER disclosed a full-year's worth of product at any single time. But once again...read between the lines - The first few figures for the subscription almost certainly were intended to be another wave at retail. Now? They're not. Why is this? Because DCUC is going in "a different direction." Gee...what could that direction possibly be, given the semi-recent revelation of a universal reboot for the DCU and a major marketing push impending from Time-Warner to support it?

 

Time-Warner wants the "new" designs on shelves as fast as possible, and late next year is "as fast as possible." They also clearly want "major characters only" as even Atrocitus, who's confirmed as being part of the "new" universe and even has (sort of) his own title didn't "make the cut." That should be a red flag right there that we can basically look forward to a whole lotta the "Big 7" starting next year...and probably not much else besides the occasional villain.

 

Does Mattel want to squeeze more dollars out of DCUC collectors? Damn right they do. They'd be an absolutely crappy business if they didn't and there isn't a toy company in existence that does things purely out of the goodness of their heart (at least not that's going to be in business long). The point, however, is that Mattel wanting to make money and wanting to provide fans/collectors with some figures they might not otherwise get aren't mutually exclusive. Mattel the corporation wants money. The Four Horsemen and the DCUC "team" probably do (to some extent) actually give a crap about the fans/collectors, but ultimately their influence is limited by corporate control, and always will be (same with any other toy line). It's doubly-difficult with a licensed brand like DC, where product has to be approved not only by your corporation, but by the owner of the licensed property as well (in most cases). Toss in the need to please the retailers enough to buy the line and you're looking at a heck of a lot of fingers in the pie.

 

With the subscription, the need to please retailers is removed from the equation, and replaced with the need to please subscribers so they will continue to subscribe in subsequent years. This actually does give fans/collectors far more influence over the line than they would EVER enjoy otherwise.

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Mattel's profits far exceed Hasbro's, mainly because of dolls aimed at little girls and mini-cars directed at 45-year-old virgins, which must piss you off royally.

 

@lol@ hahahaahaha...true.

 

I know, for all of our fighting me and CJFAN that has to be the quote of the year, I spit all over my computer at work when I read he rant and came to that part.

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Mattel's profits far exceed Hasbro's, mainly because of dolls aimed at little girls and mini-cars directed at 45-year-old virgins, which must piss you off royally.

 

@lol@ hahahaahaha...true.

 

I know, for all of our fighting me and CJFAN that has to be the quote of the year, I spit all over my computer at work when I read he rant and came to that part.

 

Don't ruin your computer on my account. I'll feel bad.

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Mattel's profits far exceed Hasbro's, mainly because of dolls aimed at little girls and mini-cars directed at 45-year-old virgins, which must piss you off royally.

 

@lol@ hahahaahaha...true.

 

I know, for all of our fighting me and CJFAN that has to be the quote of the year, I spit all over my computer at work when I read he rant and came to that part.

 

Don't ruin your computer on my account. I'll feel bad.

 

No that was funny and work is kicking my butt so it was a needed stress release. Also people or male collectors don't seem to remember and recall but Mattel sells more product than Hasblow. Just because Star Wars, Joes, and Transformers have a dedicated presence doesn't mean they are top dog.

 

 

Overall, Mattel should of been more open about the new direction of the change for their DC Line (heck they didn't even unveil a name yet) and really took the time to explain what the new sub is all about. People are on the fence and they have every right to be. It all was just too fast with too much of a commitment.

 

Mattel needs to explain:

 

The new line and just exactly how it is focused

 

Explain the direction of the sub -- as far as character selection, whatever

 

What to expect in the future..............and hell throw DC under the bus if they were the ones who wanted the change, that way they can take the heat off themselves. They could of done it in a classy way, but let the fight be taken to DC and Warner and not them. That said it will be interesting to see how this all plays out.

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We're all supposedly adults expressing our valid opinions here. Let's try and steer away from the name-calling okay.

 

HAHAHA "clueless" is an adjective, clearly accurate in this situation, and if you think "fanboy" is an insult then I'd hate to think what would happen if I used a real one.

 

Between you, Flounnderr and Jailer there's been a blatant lack of intelligence and hypocrisy rampant in this discussion. None of you want to admit that DCUC isn't as popular as you think it is and Mattel's agreement with DC expands far beyond one adult collector line.

 

Instead you would rather accuse Mattel of "scams," accuse me of lying, or in your case, pretend to be h3llfish and find some "name calling" so you can ignore all facts that absolutely destroy your argument.

 

Props to Jmacq1 for backing me up.

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I wonder if the DC subscription already has more supporters than the Ecto-1 Club had its first year (and way more than its second year)and the Voltron Club has in its first year.

So why the double standard?

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