Singer confirmed for the next Superman Movie

[nonameshmo30]

ok i must weigh in but where to start fan boys although mostly full of crap about how on point it has to be do put lots of money into the whole movie meaning go to see it buy the toys, cups, shirts etc... so the movie makes will never not listen to them somewhat. because they can spread the word of mouth very fast. Which in turn will kill a movie or what have you. Now that said the fan boys can ruin a good movie with there crap and need to be taken less seriously.

 

They the movie makers really need to listen to us all fans fan boys and common people. In reguards to the x men movies. I my self thought they were awsome 3 not so much but still really good. I really don't know why some of you say they wern't good. Compared to the capt americe movie it was leaps n bounds better. I just don't know what to say because again i thought they were out standing. Other than lacking the suits we all know n love.

 

Now on to superman returns. While i am a superman fanatic i tried to go into the movie with an open mind. Routh did a hell of a job for the shoes he had to fill. I think you all need to give that man more credit than alot of you do. I mean he kept reeves essance alive but made it his own as well and that is hard as hell to do. I bet alot of us couldn't come close myself included.

 

There was some good points in sups returns. i thought the kryptonite knife was a great twist and the island lifting was not only powerful but meaningful. it was just sheer might. And to give his own safty up to do it was impressive. I try to go with the emotion of the moment in the film. Go back and really watch it with an open mind and not just to trash it but really get into it.

 

Now with that said was it a great film like superman 1 absolutly not. did i like the kid no that should have never been in the film but that was the real world creeping into the film because it happens everyday is it right no but protraying superman as a dead beat dad is and i have to say this i'm sorry but it was bullshyt. the 2 know nothing writers should never work in this feild ever again. And one more thing i think people are sick to death of superman fight lex its past time to give him someone really worth a fight. which is why people liked zod and non and the chick they were villans to contend with. And i'm even gonna through in nuclear man i liked the 4th flim and the 3rd for that matter. supes fighting him self come on thats classic stuff

 

Singer while saying he wasn't a fan growning up does these movies. So i think he if full of crap too. I just think he was more of a fan of x men or marvel than he was dc superman. he just wanted that check. But if he truely isn't a fan or wasn't a fan then maybe that's what we need a true fan of the essance of what they are doing. I know nolan was a batman fan and made 2 works of art on film.

 

Now on to watchmen i bet it will be big on dvd but what really hurt this film is a few things. one no big a list heroes which drives kids away and or parents with kids. two this novel / comic series happens back in the 80's and wasn't widely know as sups bats x men. three alot of member on other boards were bashing it befor it even came out. four the whole nixon alternate world drives people away. Also watchmen is kinda an orgians story which can take away from a film haveing to set up everything

 

If it were updated with whats going on in todays world the it may have seen more people going to see it BUt most of all people are just frikkin broke and can't afford to piss away 10 buck times 2 or 3 or 4 with wife n kids. kids meaning 11 12 13 n up not small kids.

 

So you don't have to agree with everything i said its just my view. I try to be fair and have an open mind to things.

[nonameshmo30]

I think that was my longest post ever lol

[nonameshmo30]

Forget Routh, bring back Dean Cain!

 

 

Seriously, he's the only on-screen version of superman I really liked.

 

Are you serious... Really are you friggin serious. No offence my friend but cane was a puss in tights.

 

 

Plus the fact that Mr. Cain has porked up quite a bit sence his Lois and Clark days. I'm talkin dude has packed on no less than 40+ pounds.

 

Yea and got alot older loli guess diddeling terry hatcher will do that to ya lol kidding.

[GrtEternal]

I have no problem with Routh as Superman. I think he did good. Singer as a director wasn't that bad either. As a fact, I actually enjoyed Superman Returns except for the Superman's son part.

 

But if Singer and Routh are coming back to do a Superman 2, well, I bet Singer's gonna do a lot of hard work to prove himself once more as a great comic book movie director. I think he'll do great.

 

I hope they make a Batman/ Superman crossover already!

[nonameshmo30]

I have no problem with Routh as Superman. I think he did good. Singer as a director wasn't that bad either. As a fact, I actually enjoyed Superman Returns except for the Superman's son part.

 

But if Singer and Routh are coming back to do a Superman 2, well, I bet Singer's gonna do a lot of hard work to prove himself once more as a great comic book movie director. I think he'll do great.

 

I hope they make a Batman/ Superman crossover already!

 

I know right I was thinking about this the other day. When tv shows have different people from other shows show up on there show its always been really neat. and tony stark showing up in hulk again very kool. So why don't more movies do this or tv shows for that matter

[rash]

I'm probably in the minority here, but I liked "Superman Returns", even though I don't really like Brandon Routh as Supes. He wasn't bad, but he seems WAY too young. He was chosen because he looks kind of like CHristopher Reeves, but since this movie takes place AFTER the movies Reeves did by 5 years, how could the 28 year-old Routh be Superman??

 

Singer DOES need to do a better job, but frankly, I enjoyed this movie more than ANY of the Christopher Reeve movies, which I thought were lame even when I was 14 years old back in 1980...

 

...And the oft-stated opinion that the first "Superman" movie with Christopher Reeves is "the best comic movie ever" is, to me, simply stupid. That movie sucked.

[ARROW]

They the movie makers really need to listen to us all fans fan boys and common people.

 

This is an attitude that irks me.

 

A lot.

 

It bothers me because fan boys and "common people" know jack #$@# about making movies.

 

Just look at the many BAD fan flim that are out there.

 

The reasons these films turn out different from our hopes and expectation are manifold--needless to say they are proprietary, political, and simply because they are film......not comics, not novels, not toys.

Films have a different structure than all those things, and to remain true to that structure ( so the audience can like the film) they change the material from the source.

Sometimes they can abide by the source material and make a film that everyone can enjoy, sometimes they have to alter the film so everyone can enjoy it.

When a comic is written ( especially these days...) it automatically precludes that only a certain number of people will read it and "get it"--excluding a vast majority of the population. A movie just reaches more people, so it has to address more of those people with values and structure that comics often do not have.

 

And that means the movie is bound to change things--something that fan boys and common people just cannot seem to grasp.

 

 

Singer while saying he wasn't a fan growning up does these movies. So i think he if full of crap too. I just think he was more of a fan of x men or marvel than he was dc superman. he just wanted that check. But if he truely isn't a fan or wasn't a fan then maybe that's what we need a true fan of the essance of what they are doing.

 

<sigh> How many fans do you know who are prominent, capable directors in Hollywood?

Go on and find 'em.........I'll wait.

These movies need directors that can direct movies--not specific genre's of movies.

Its like going into a restaurant and asking for a chef that makes ONLY French fries--nothing else. Does happen, right?

You might find someone with a knack for making fries, but they also make other things too.....

Demanding that a director be a fan is absurd and really pointless.

Its just a job for these folks, they get hired to do the job because the studio trusts them with hundreds of millions of dollars of their ( and other people's) money.

As I said before, movies are VERY political animals, and because of the fact that so much money is at stake. Superhero genre film tend to be VERY effects heavy, which means even more resources and expense come into play. And so does the responsibility of the director to make a film that draws an audience.

Remember.......based on comic sales......less than .01% of the population read comics at the present time. That's a nothing audience to direct a film towards.......which is why these films change stuff ( against fan's wishes) and go for a wider audience that does not know comics from a hole in the ground.

 

Now on to watchmen i bet it will be big on dvd but what really hurt this film is a few things. one no big a list heroes which drives kids away and or parents with kids.

 

Uh, Watchmen was never meant to showcase A-list heroes, and it was never meant to be a story ( or a movie) that was accessible to children. Its rated R for a reason. Its NOT Superfriends, and was never ever meant to be.

[rash]

They the movie makers really need to listen to us all fans fan boys and common people.

 

This is an attitude that irks me.

 

A lot.

 

It bothers me because fan boys and "common people" know jack #$@# about making movies.

 

Just look at the many BAD fan flim that are out there.

 

The reasons these films turn out different from our hopes and expectation are manifold--needless to say they are proprietary, political, and simply because they are film......not comics, not novels, not toys.

Films have a different structure than all those things, and to remain true to that structure ( so the audience can like the film) they change the material from the source.

Sometimes they can abide by the source material and make a film that everyone can enjoy, sometimes they have to alter the film so everyone can enjoy it.

When a comic is written ( especially these days...) it automatically precludes that only a certain number of people will read it and "get it"--excluding a vast majority of the population. A movie just reaches more people, so it has to address more of those people with values and structure that comics often do not have.

 

And that means the movie is bound to change things--something that fan boys and common people just cannot seem to grasp.

 

 

Singer while saying he wasn't a fan growning up does these movies. So i think he if full of crap too. I just think he was more of a fan of x men or marvel than he was dc superman. he just wanted that check. But if he truely isn't a fan or wasn't a fan then maybe that's what we need a true fan of the essance of what they are doing.

 

<sigh> How many fans do you know who are prominent, capable directors in Hollywood?

Go on and find 'em.........I'll wait.

These movies need directors that can direct movies--not specific genre's of movies.

Its like going into a restaurant and asking for a chef that makes ONLY French fries--nothing else. Does happen, right?

You might find someone with a knack for making fries, but they also make other things too.....

Demanding that a director be a fan is absurd and really pointless.

Its just a job for these folks, they get hired to do the job because the studio trusts them with hundreds of millions of dollars of their ( and other people's) money.

As I said before, movies are VERY political animals, and because of the fact that so much money is at stake. Superhero genre film tend to be VERY effects heavy, which means even more resources and expense come into play. And so does the responsibility of the director to make a film that draws an audience.

Remember.......based on comic sales......less than .01% of the population read comics at the present time. That's a nothing audience to direct a film towards.......which is why these films change stuff ( against fan's wishes) and go for a wider audience that does not know comics from a hole in the ground.

 

Now on to watchmen i bet it will be big on dvd but what really hurt this film is a few things. one no big a list heroes which drives kids away and or parents with kids.

 

Uh, Watchmen was never meant to showcase A-list heroes, and it was never meant to be a story ( or a movie) that was accessible to children. Its rated R for a reason. Its NOT Superfriends, and was never ever meant to be.

 

 

Are you trying to imply that film-makers in Hollywood should make movies that appeal to the broad-spectrum of American and world society (a few billion plus), as opposed to the 10,000 hard-core fan-boys who, for example, still whine about Brandon Routh's li'l maroon undies???

 

Is that what you're saying???

 

If so, that's simply OUTRAGEOUS!!!!!!!!

[ARROW]

Are you trying to imply that film-makers in Hollywood should make movies that appeal to the broad-spectrum of American and world society (a few billion plus), as opposed to the 10,000 hard-core fan-boys who, for example, still whine about Brandon Routh's li'l maroon undies???

 

Is that what you're saying???

 

If so, that's simply OUTRAGEOUS!!!!!!!!

 

Yep, I am saying that. Flog me with your flaccid fan-boy noodle, if you must.

[rash]

Are you trying to imply that film-makers in Hollywood should make movies that appeal to the broad-spectrum of American and world society (a few billion plus), as opposed to the 10,000 hard-core fan-boys who, for example, still whine about Brandon Routh's li'l maroon undies???

 

Is that what you're saying???

 

If so, that's simply OUTRAGEOUS!!!!!!!!

 

Yep, I am saying that. Flog me with your flaccid fan-boy noodle, if you must.

 

I'll have you know, Sir, that my fan-boy noodle is quite turgid, thank you very much!

[nonameshmo30]

They the movie makers really need to listen to us all fans fan boys and common people.

 

This is an attitude that irks me.

 

A lot.

 

It bothers me because fan boys and "common people" know jack #$@# about making movies.

 

Just look at the many BAD fan flim that are out there.

 

The reasons these films turn out different from our hopes and expectation are manifold--needless to say they are proprietary, political, and simply because they are film......not comics, not novels, not toys.

Films have a different structure than all those things, and to remain true to that structure ( so the audience can like the film) they change the material from the source.

Sometimes they can abide by the source material and make a film that everyone can enjoy, sometimes they have to alter the film so everyone can enjoy it.

When a comic is written ( especially these days...) it automatically precludes that only a certain number of people will read it and "get it"--excluding a vast majority of the population. A movie just reaches more people, so it has to address more of those people with values and structure that comics often do not have.

 

And that means the movie is bound to change things--something that fan boys and common people just cannot seem to grasp.

 

 

Singer while saying he wasn't a fan growning up does these movies. So i think he if full of crap too. I just think he was more of a fan of x men or marvel than he was dc superman. he just wanted that check. But if he truely isn't a fan or wasn't a fan then maybe that's what we need a true fan of the essance of what they are doing.

 

<sigh> How many fans do you know who are prominent, capable directors in Hollywood?

Go on and find 'em.........I'll wait.

These movies need directors that can direct movies--not specific genre's of movies.

Its like going into a restaurant and asking for a chef that makes ONLY French fries--nothing else. Does happen, right?

You might find someone with a knack for making fries, but they also make other things too.....

Demanding that a director be a fan is absurd and really pointless.

Its just a job for these folks, they get hired to do the job because the studio trusts them with hundreds of millions of dollars of their ( and other people's) money.

As I said before, movies are VERY political animals, and because of the fact that so much money is at stake. Superhero genre film tend to be VERY effects heavy, which means even more resources and expense come into play. And so does the responsibility of the director to make a film that draws an audience.

Remember.......based on comic sales......less than .01% of the population read comics at the present time. That's a nothing audience to direct a film towards.......which is why these films change stuff ( against fan's wishes) and go for a wider audience that does not know comics from a hole in the ground.

 

Now on to watchmen i bet it will be big on dvd but what really hurt this film is a few things. one no big a list heroes which drives kids away and or parents with kids.

 

Uh, Watchmen was never meant to showcase A-list heroes, and it was never meant to be a story ( or a movie) that was accessible to children. Its rated R for a reason. Its NOT Superfriends, and was never ever meant to be.

 

I could not dissagree more. I don't think the writers or director being a fan of what ever they are makeing a film about is bad. Really it does help because they want to please everyone across the board. I myself don't like fan boys because they pick every little thing apart for for the sake of doing it.

 

Also its not only the writers and director its the studio as well they put in there 2 cents and can ruin a movie as well. really movies have alot going aginst them from the time the writer/s finish the last line of the script. But i do think some one who is at least a fan even if very small is better than someone who knows nothing and has to reserch it befor hand

 

I never said watchmen was for small kids but a 13 year old boy will find a way to see it. I know thi film wasn't ment to show a list heroes and i know it wasn't ment to be superfriends. Thats my point thats what is hurting it box office wise. The common folk don't know thses guy and are not invested in them so there not going to see it. We all can't agree all the time right.

[ARROW]

I could not dissagree more. I don't think the writers or director being a fan of what ever they are makeing a film about is bad. Really it does help because they want to please everyone across the board. I myself don't like fan boys because they pick every little thing apart for for the sake of doing it.

 

I never said it was bad, I did say that you will be hard pressed to find competent directors that are as into this stuff as you or I. Their jobs are to make films......all kinds of films and not just superhero genre material. So right out of the gate, you are going to have to enlist the talents of people that are, quite frankly, indifferent to the genre.

Even so, some folks revel in the genre, but the studios have no faith that they can direct a tent-pole film ( Kevin Smith is an example) and so they get overlooked for a director that isn't interesting in the material. That is the politics of the business.

 

I face this daily in my own work.

I have to work on material that is waaaaay outside of my own interests, but I still have tobring something to it because that is my job. I'm not the person in control though, and my stamp on the work is limited to a degree because of that.

That is much the same for many directors as well-because they have to answer to producers, studio execs and license holders.

Fans want and want and want.......and want more, but that's not the way the world works in reality.

I've come to the conclusion that the only way some folks will ever understand is for them to take the plunge and try to get into the biz themselves--so they will see how it actually works, as opposed to how they think it works.

[Darth Vehmic]

I just read an article from Den of Geek stating that Warner Bros has confirmed that Bryan Singer will be directing the next Superman movie, and bringing back Brandon Routh.

 

Here is the link if anyone wants to readVisit My Website

 

I don't know how true the story, but I will have to see the end result before I start bashing their decision. By the way I fell asleep during Superman Returns so he's got a lot of work ahead of him.

 

Well, there goes my hopes for even a single good Superman movie.

[Wheeljack35]

Forget Routh, bring back Dean Cain!

 

 

Seriously, he's the only on-screen version of superman I really liked.

 

 

Dean Cain wasn't a good Superman

[nonameshmo30]

I could not dissagree more. I don't think the writers or director being a fan of what ever they are makeing a film about is bad. Really it does help because they want to please everyone across the board. I myself don't like fan boys because they pick every little thing apart for for the sake of doing it.

 

I never said it was bad, I did say that you will be hard pressed to find competent directors that are as into this stuff as you or I. Their jobs are to make films......all kinds of films and not just superhero genre material. So right out of the gate, you are going to have to enlist the talents of people that are, quite frankly, indifferent to the genre.

Even so, some folks revel in the genre, but the studios have no faith that they can direct a tent-pole film ( Kevin Smith is an example) and so they get overlooked for a director that isn't interesting in the material. That is the politics of the business.

 

I face this daily in my own work.

I have to work on material that is waaaaay outside of my own interests, but I still have tobring something to it because that is my job. I'm not the person in control though, and my stamp on the work is limited to a degree because of that.

That is much the same for many directors as well-because they have to answer to producers, studio execs and license holders.

Fans want and want and want.......and want more, but that's not the way the world works in reality.

I've come to the conclusion that the only way some folks will ever understand is for them to take the plunge and try to get into the biz themselves--so they will see how it actually works, as opposed to how they think it works.

 

I never liked kevin smith. Imean really who is this friggin guy some over weight actor and i use actor very loosely. he would fall under fan boy and not really a fan/fanatic. I understand where you are comeing from and this is no means of an argument. So don't take it as that. But my point is sometimes it does help to have someoe who knows more than just some boneing up reserch you know.

 

Some times fresh eyes are a great help

[Superpowers1980]

Who in there right mind liked Routh as Superman, I am deadly serious, what in all of the flippin universe is there to like about him. He had Chris Reeve's voice...ok but look at him, he looks like some preppy college kid who has no passion or sincerity other than his own stupid existence. He has none of the stature, poise, and strength to play Superman. I mean even the figures gave him a weak and puny chin. The tried to bulk him up and he only ended up with fat legs, WTH. I think all the SR fans are crazy or casual fans, I mean look at this dweeb below:

 

 

This is what Superman should look like, with all the power and grace. Sorry but I would rather have a Chris Reeve impersonator than that stupid Routh any day.

In this picture below Chris really bulked up and in a good way. He looks like a young version of the Alex Ross drawing and as if he came right out a comic and/or out of the package of a Super Powers card

[Superpowers1980]

Check below, one looks like a man, the other looks like a preppy college kid

 

 

Look at this, pure crap, forget Routh and forget Singer, goodbye and no good luck. Let's start fresh with a guy who like Chris has a power and grace about him, not who is fullfilling the directors underlying passions.

 

[ARROW]

I liked Routh.

I think he did a great job as Clark, but a bit less so as Superman. I think that was more the way the character was handled though, and not his performance.

 

I thought he was very sincere in the role, and was quite convincing.

[yojoebro82]

Look at this, pure crap, forget Routh and forget Singer, goodbye and no good luck. Let's start fresh with a guy who like Chris has a power and grace about him, not who is fullfilling the directors underlying passions.

 

 

OK, you want us to think Singer has a gay crush on Routh. We get it.

 

Given what he had to work with Routh did a fine job. He looks as close to Reeve as anyone's probably going to get. Had he been given an eipc Superman story and script to work with, he probably would have done just fine and people would sing his praises as much as they do Bale's Batman.

[Opticon]

Forget Routh, bring back Dean Cain!

 

 

Seriously, he's the only on-screen version of superman I really liked.

 

Are you serious... Really are you friggin serious. No offence my friend but cane was a puss in tights.

 

 

Plus the fact that Mr. Cain has porked up quite a bit sence his Lois and Clark days. I'm talkin dude has packed on no less than 40+ pounds.

 

Yea and got alot older loli guess diddeling terry hatcher will do that to ya lol kidding.

Heh, i was serious about him being my favourite incarnation of Superman, but not about bringing him back for the role. He does look quite a bit different these days.

[ARROW]

OK, you want us to think Singer has a gay crush on Routh. We get it.

 

Yea, I think that kind of insinuation can be dropped from this thread and discussion. That is unless the insinuator wants to forego the notion that we can have a mature and intelligent discussion on the topic--they can always bow out with they do not feel up to it.

[nonameshmo30]

Arrow and my self are the example here we were haveing a discussion now this gay stuff has no place here i'm with arrow on that

 

so lets just get back to talking and less slandering lets have some fun. with the topic. ok and superpowers i agree with u reeves was the man no doubt but he died so what can we do you know and remember that in superman 2 reeves was no more than 20 or 25 so routh picking up from the 2nd film fit the bill reevs just looked older but again he was no more than 24 or 25.

[azrael23]

Are you trying to imply that film-makers in Hollywood should make movies that appeal to the broad-spectrum of American and world society (a few billion plus), as opposed to the 10,000 hard-core fan-boys who, for example, still whine about Brandon Routh's li'l maroon undies???

 

Is that what you're saying???

 

If so, that's simply OUTRAGEOUS!!!!!!!!

 

Yep, I am saying that. Flog me with your flaccid fan-boy noodle, if you must.

 

I'll have you know, Sir, that my fan-boy noodle is quite turgid, thank you very much!

@loll@ @loll@ @loll@

[SUPREMEQUEEN]

I got a question. why is the concept of Superman haveing a kid out of wedlock met with such hatred?? I mean I do agree that Singer is wack for having brought it in, but many of you guys seem to be taking it very personaly. Terms like jizz basterd and illigitmit are just WAY over the top! Why does it bother you all so? Is it because you have some kind of need for this mythological chacter to be a moral compass of sorts??

 

Even if Kal El were a real person, he'd still be an alien from another planet. Why would you expect him to follow a moral code that stems from a religion that for all intents and purposes dont include "visitors from a far off star". I'm also curious. How many of you come from "Norman Rockwell, or Leave it to Beaver" type homes?? Do you consider your selves bastards if you were missing a parent? And why is a male child considered a bastered when its the father who's gone missing?? Is this yet another exampel of your human sexizum

[azrael23]

I got a question. why is the concept of Superman haveing a kid out of wedlock met with such hatred?? I mean I do agree that Singer is wack for having brought it in, but many of you guys seem to be taking it very personaly. Terms like jizz basterd and illigitmit are just WAY over the top! Why does it bother you all so? Is it because you have some kind of need for this mythological chacter to be a moral compass of sorts??

 

Even if Kal El were a real person, he'd still be an alien from another planet. Why would you expect him to follow a moral code that stems from a religion that for all intents and purposes dont include "visitors from a far off star". I'm also curious. How many of you come from "Norman Rockwell, or Leave it to Beaver" type homes?? Do you consider your selves bastards if you were missing a parent? And why is a male child considered a bastered when its the father who's gone missing?? Is this yet another exampel of your human sexizum

 

Well considering the fact that by definition a bastard is a child born of unmarried parents that can certainly

apply to Jason's character. Ultimately I think you're just taking this a bit further and reading to much into what is said.

Superman is known for holding strong ethics, I mean isn't he termed the "big blue boy scout"? Keep in mind no

one is saying Superman isn't prone to mistakes but the way he is depicted in SR makes him appear as a selfish insensitive

jerk. I mean what sort of man leaves the planet and doesn't bother to tell the woman he supposedly loves where

and for how long he might be gone? In the film he states that is was to "painful" so right there he is only considering

his own feelings. Just the entire circumstance regarding Superman's love child just seems so sporadic, like it was tacked on

the last minute without even an a consideration of how it makes Superman looks. It was utterly irresponsible. Not to mention it

weights the series down.