Thumbs up to Hasbro

[Mr Creed]

I really do have to give thumbs up to Hasbro, with all the complaints, myself included, after over 2 decades of G.I.Joe, they have finally come out with figures true to their originals, with articulation and detail of sculpts we've always wanted. Perhaps a few slight changes here and there, but compared to the other recent waves ie; JvC and VvV, they have really started to get a grasp on things and thought about us oldskool Joe fans. This is the stuff we've all been waiting for since the relaunch of G.I.Joe since the late 90's early 2000, earlier perhaps. Im just really pleased to see this line come to life.

[Capt.S.G.Wiseman]

I salute that!! #US1# I am very impressed by Hasbro, and I hope they keep it coming.

[DPrime]

Agreed, but remember Hasbro, you can always IMPROVE on things. As the line progresses I hope to see better versions of figures that were just thrown together with old parts.

 

Keep it coming!!!

[Pizza Man Z]

I agree Hasbro has been doing pretty good with the latest figures. I am really hoping that they put some more improvements on the figures that have been made so far, but I am really impressed with some of all the new figures out so far.

[gossamer]

Are you guys talking about the 25th line?

[Mr Creed]

Are you guys talking about the 25th line?

Yes

[darthhenning]

While distribution and re-paints of characters still get on my nerves, the new line has overall been one of hasbro's greatest ideas and works of the last 10 years.

 

I applaud the direction in which they are going (bar the upcoming movie figures) and hope that the modern era lasts as long as ARAH and re-does all the classic and new characters.

 

 

 

YO JOE!

 

 

 

 

 

@can@

[Viper Hunter]

Oh..alright!!

 

 

[Wheeljack35]

Until I see a G1 painted Unicron or a G1 painted Powerglide I think the ystill need to do there homework

[JohnnyRebelV2]

Other than a handfull of Marvel Legends they've done justice The 25th Joes are Hasbro's best work since the 80's. And trust me I buy A LOT of Habro crap, err products.

[hoganvibe]

Until I see a G1 painted Unicron or a G1 painted Powerglide I think the ystill need to do there homework

 

Isn't the Takara Powerglide going to be painted G1 colors? They get cooler Transformers over there.

[hamsterboy]

I have to agree for the most part. I mean Hasbro could have said the heck with all of the headaches we keep getting from the fans. Let's just put out whatever Joe stuff will make us the most money. Instead they try they're best to accommodate us.

[gojira77]

Any company that would produce a Serpentor with snake-spear, Melting-face Toht varient, and a Targetmaster Cyclonus all within a year of each other is alright with me!

 

And keep in mind, Hasbro didn't end Toy Biz; that was all Marvel's fault. Hasbro tried to continue Marvel Legends with mixed results, but I'm sure they'll do all the Marvel characters right in a scale that they know well when Fury Files hits the pegs.

[CLAM]

Any company that would produce a Serpentor with snake-spear, Melting-face Toht varient, and a Targetmaster Cyclonus all within a year of each other is alright with me!

 

And keep in mind, Hasbro didn't end Toy Biz; that was all Marvel's fault. Hasbro tried to continue Marvel Legends with mixed results, but I'm sure they'll do all the Marvel characters right in a scale that they know well when Fury Files hits the pegs.

 

 

Hasbro didn't end Toybiz.. that's kinda true.. I mean they didn't buy Toybiz and disband them. They did take away the Marvel licens, Toybiz's bread and butter, though.. so Toybiz had no choice but to fold.

 

Hasbro did end/kill Marvel Legends though. I don't care what anybody says, the line they are producing is NOT Marvel Legends, whether you like them or not. And the fact is, whether you are a fan of them or not, the line is doing VERY poor business. And THAT is Hasbro's fault. Hasbro had the entire Marvel Legends team at their disposal, they could have taken all the designers over, they chose to go another way (THEIR WAY) and its blown up in their face.

 

 

 

AS for the 25th line, I can't say I would give them a thumbs up anymore. I used to really like this line. For the first 5 waves or so I was die-hard for them. Since then, I would have to say my interest has been slowly diminishing.. From too many repaints, aweful comic pack choices, changing to lower quality packaging, poor figure design, odd character choices, etc... Im getting tired of them. Wave 9 was good. Alot of what they have done has been good. But I actually think if I had to rate each item a thumbs up or down, it would be pretty close.

 

So OVERALL, I have to say, "great job for the most part"... but LATELY, I have to say "meh, be careful Hasbro. You are losing it"

[gossamer]

I respectfully disagree with your evaluations of the 25th line. I do not see these figures standing up to 25 years of display as well as the originals did. The originals were far better made and able to stand the test of time. These new ones feel like they are going to break apart in your hands.

[darthhenning]

I respectfully disagree with your evaluations of the 25th line. I do not see these figures standing up to 25 years of display as well as the originals did. The originals were far better made and able to stand the test of time. These new ones feel like they are going to break apart in your hands.

 

I don't know how you feel that way. The plastic in the new figures is far less brittle and prone to breakage, there is no O-ring that can snap (I know they can be replaced easily, but it is a point of temporary breakage), and if anything, the plastic is more resistant to scratching and cracking. And the paint seems less subject to wear.

 

I think that they will stand up at least as well, if not better than the original line.

 

 

 

 

 

@can@

[Viper Hunter]

I respectfully disagree with your evaluations of the 25th line. I do not see these figures standing up to 25 years of display as well as the originals did. The originals were far better made and able to stand the test of time. These new ones feel like they are going to break apart in your hands.

 

I don't know how you feel that way. The plastic in the new figures is far less brittle and prone to breakage, there is no O-ring that can snap (I know they can be replaced easily, but it is a point of temporary breakage), and if anything, the plastic is more resistant to scratching and cracking. And the paint seems less subject to wear.

 

I think that they will stand up at least as well, if not better than the original line.

 

 

 

If these new versions were getting the kind of rough play, from real BOYS that the original versions were getting (who actually PLAYS with these new toys anyway?) I would have to agree with gossamer that they would NOT stand the test of true kids play nor the test of time.

 

The O-ring complaint is kind of flawed, in that I was a 20 something when I started collecting them, so my intentions with them are still the same today as they were back then, and I was not 8 years old and actually PLAYING hardcore war with Cobra in the sandbox with them or leaving them out in the rain and hot sun for hours and hours.

 

My entire OLD collection of O-ringed figures are just as solid and intact TODAY as they were back then. The only O-rings I've ever had to replace were of those figures I'd bought off eBay and who KNOWS what they went thru above and beyond collector uses of them? They might have belonged to a REAL kid who REALLY played with them?

 

These new versions have a lot more weak points and removable items that would never stand the same conditions put upon them, but Hasbro knows that's not the name of the game anymore, and you'd be hard pressed to find a couple of neighborhood young chaps playing out in the yard with their new JOE toys, like how you guys did in your youth.

 

Anything that's painted on (especially the hands and faces) will chip and scratch just the same, as mine already have, just from removing masks or goggles while fiddling around with them for customs. No difference there. The plastic is almost TOO soft in some cases and will not hold a weapon.

 

I guess I do feel the new style is inferior yet and only more detailed and somewhat better proportioned than the originals, but still inferior overall as an action figure toy. They're more concerned with collectability interests over a real boys toy like the older ones.

[darthhenning]

If these new versions were getting the kind of rough play, from real BOYS that the original versions were getting (who actually PLAYS with these new toys anyway?) I would have to agree with gossamer that they would NOT stand the test of true kids play nor the test of time.

 

The O-ring complaint is kind of flawed, in that I was a 20 something when I started collecting them, so my intentions with them are still the same today as they were back then, and I was not 8 years old and actually PLAYING hardcore war with Cobra in the sandbox with them or leaving them out in the rain and hot sun for hours and hours.

 

My entire OLD collection of O-ringed figures are just as solid and intact TODAY as they were back then. The only O-rings I've ever had to replace were of those figures I'd bought off eBay and who KNOWS what they went thru above and beyond collector uses of them? They might have belonged to a REAL kid who REALLY played with them?

 

Admittedly I've only had about 4 O-rings break myself, so it isn't greatly relavant. But the one that did break while I was a kid, I didn't know could be replaced and hence my tripwire is permanantly glued in a sitting position. I think that a lot of kids may have done the same thing, or just chucked the broken figure.

 

These new versions have a lot more weak points and removable items that would never stand the same conditions put upon them, but Hasbro knows that's not the name of the game anymore, and you'd be hard pressed to find a couple of neighborhood young chaps playing out in the yard with their new JOE toys, like how you guys did in your youth.

 

Admittedly the removable items have increased in number and are more prone to loss, but IMO the softer plasitic makes them harder to break (I once snapped a gun from the old 80's line, but the new ones are flexible enough to aviod that).

 

Also, I'm not really sure what weak points in the figures you are refering to. The heads pop off as do the wrists, but pop back on just as easily. What specifically are you refering to?

 

Anything that's painted on (especially the hands and faces) will chip and scratch just the same, as mine already have, just from removing masks or goggles while fiddling around with them for customs. No difference there. The plastic is almost TOO soft in some cases and will not hold a weapon.

 

Still chips I guess, I haven't had problems yet, but mind you, I haven't really had problems with the old ones more than a couple times either, mostly on the thumbs.

 

I've yet to find plastic that could not hold a gun, but maybe I've just been lucky.

 

I guess I do feel the new style is inferior yet and only more detailed and somewhat better proportioned than the originals, but still inferior overall as an action figure toy. They're more concerned with collectability interests over a real boys toy like the older ones.

 

Possible, without giving a couple of each to a young child, I guess we have no way of knowing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

@can@

[Viper Hunter]

These new versions have a lot more weak points and removable items that would never stand the same conditions put upon them, but Hasbro knows that's not the name of the game anymore, and you'd be hard pressed to find a couple of neighborhood young chaps playing out in the yard with their new JOE toys, like how you guys did in your youth.

 

I'm not really sure what weak points in the figures you are refering to. The heads pop off as do the wrists, but pop back on just as easily. What specifically are you refering to?

 

Much like a wire hanger that you can bend back and forth until the friction breaks it....the soft rubber on these figures (at their connecting points) can just as easily break with time. Leave a 25th anniversary figure outside on a hot day, along with a old 80's O-ringed version, and see which one deteriorates first. Take these 25th figures and transport them back in time to replace the O-ringed ones, and I bet there wouldn't be much left of them to ever have the kind of eBay activity we have today, where we've all been able to buy old LOOSE Joes in some lot. We'd be buying headless, handless, feetless, forearmless old torso's.

 

I guess I do feel the new style is inferior yet and only more detailed and somewhat better proportioned than the originals, but still inferior overall as an action figure toy. They're more concerned with collectability interests over a real boys toy like the older ones.

 

Possible, without giving a couple of each to a young child, I guess we have no way of knowing.

 

Exactly..and since KNOWING is half the battle, we're shiite out of luck!

[Wheeljack35]

Until I see a G1 painted Unicron or a G1 painted Powerglide I think the ystill need to do there homework

 

Isn't the Takara Powerglide going to be painted G1 colors? They get cooler Transformers over there.

 

 

Yeah but thats Takara not Hasbro

 

 

Well I could say at least thank you to them for the BMF

[Jaxxon327]

Until I see a G1 painted Unicron or a G1 painted Powerglide I think the ystill need to do there homework

 

Isn't the Takara Powerglide going to be painted G1 colors? They get cooler Transformers over there.

 

 

Yeah but thats Takara not Hasbro

 

 

Well I could say at least thank you to them for the BMF

 

 

Well, I am glad you are thankfuly for that;)

 

I will agree with the o-rings, I love them and I always thought hey were essential to a joe. I can remembed back in oh, early 2001 when people were begging Hasbro to bring back the O-ring. Wow how times have changed. I am with Viper hunter on this one. If the 25th style woudl have been around during our childhood, which vintage stuff would be left?

[gossamer]

I respectfully disagree with your evaluations of the 25th line. I do not see these figures standing up to 25 years of display as well as the originals did. The originals were far better made and able to stand the test of time. These new ones feel like they are going to break apart in your hands.

 

I don't know how you feel that way. The plastic in the new figures is far less brittle and prone to breakage, there is no O-ring that can snap (I know they can be replaced easily, but it is a point of temporary breakage), and if anything, the plastic is more resistant to scratching and cracking. And the paint seems less subject to wear.

 

I think that they will stand up at least as well, if not better than the original line.

 

 

 

If these new versions were getting the kind of rough play, from real BOYS that the original versions were getting (who actually PLAYS with these new toys anyway?) I would have to agree with gossamer that they would NOT stand the test of true kids play nor the test of time.

 

The O-ring complaint is kind of flawed, in that I was a 20 something when I started collecting them, so my intentions with them are still the same today as they were back then, and I was not 8 years old and actually PLAYING hardcore war with Cobra in the sandbox with them or leaving them out in the rain and hot sun for hours and hours.

 

My entire OLD collection of O-ringed figures are just as solid and intact TODAY as they were back then. The only O-rings I've ever had to replace were of those figures I'd bought off eBay and who KNOWS what they went thru above and beyond collector uses of them? They might have belonged to a REAL kid who REALLY played with them?

 

These new versions have a lot more weak points and removable items that would never stand the same conditions put upon them, but Hasbro knows that's not the name of the game anymore, and you'd be hard pressed to find a couple of neighborhood young chaps playing out in the yard with their new JOE toys, like how you guys did in your youth.

 

Anything that's painted on (especially the hands and faces) will chip and scratch just the same, as mine already have, just from removing masks or goggles while fiddling around with them for customs. No difference there. The plastic is almost TOO soft in some cases and will not hold a weapon.

 

I guess I do feel the new style is inferior yet and only more detailed and somewhat better proportioned than the originals, but still inferior overall as an action figure toy. They're more concerned with collectability interests over a real boys toy like the older ones.

I didnt think of it like that but you put it into words. My Joes did tours of duty in the jungles of my back yard. The Cities of my living room and the oceans of my bath tub. i do not consider these joes to be up to the same stresses as the old ones. I have purchased a few of the ones that were my favorites and have put them on the shelf and have given a few to my kids who had them destroyed within hours. Toys to me are for playing with not putting in glass cases. I guess as you start to get old you sound more and more like me. But that is a conversation for another board

[Mr Creed]

I respectfully disagree with your evaluations of the 25th line. I do not see these figures standing up to 25 years of display as well as the originals did. The originals were far better made and able to stand the test of time. These new ones feel like they are going to break apart in your hands.

 

I don't know how you feel that way. The plastic in the new figures is far less brittle and prone to breakage, there is no O-ring that can snap (I know they can be replaced easily, but it is a point of temporary breakage), and if anything, the plastic is more resistant to scratching and cracking. And the paint seems less subject to wear.

 

I think that they will stand up at least as well, if not better than the original line.

 

 

 

If these new versions were getting the kind of rough play, from real BOYS that the original versions were getting (who actually PLAYS with these new toys anyway?) I would have to agree with gossamer that they would NOT stand the test of true kids play nor the test of time.

 

The O-ring complaint is kind of flawed, in that I was a 20 something when I started collecting them, so my intentions with them are still the same today as they were back then, and I was not 8 years old and actually PLAYING hardcore war with Cobra in the sandbox with them or leaving them out in the rain and hot sun for hours and hours.

 

My entire OLD collection of O-ringed figures are just as solid and intact TODAY as they were back then. The only O-rings I've ever had to replace were of those figures I'd bought off eBay and who KNOWS what they went thru above and beyond collector uses of them? They might have belonged to a REAL kid who REALLY played with them?

 

These new versions have a lot more weak points and removable items that would never stand the same conditions put upon them, but Hasbro knows that's not the name of the game anymore, and you'd be hard pressed to find a couple of neighborhood young chaps playing out in the yard with their new JOE toys, like how you guys did in your youth.

 

Anything that's painted on (especially the hands and faces) will chip and scratch just the same, as mine already have, just from removing masks or goggles while fiddling around with them for customs. No difference there. The plastic is almost TOO soft in some cases and will not hold a weapon.

 

I guess I do feel the new style is inferior yet and only more detailed and somewhat better proportioned than the originals, but still inferior overall as an action figure toy. They're more concerned with collectability interests over a real boys toy like the older ones.

I didnt think of it like that but you put it into words. My Joes did tours of duty in the jungles of my back yard. The Cities of my living room and the oceans of my bath tub. i do not consider these joes to be up to the same stresses as the old ones. I have purchased a few of the ones that were my favorites and have put them on the shelf and have given a few to my kids who had them destroyed within hours. Toys to me are for playing with not putting in glass cases. I guess as you start to get old you sound more and more like me. But that is a conversation for another board

I see both your points, but im not sure if this line is intended to be roughly played with, if played with at all, from what i read and seen this is a display line, and not really meant to be played with like we did with the RAH ones when we were kids, so for what it is, no it wouldnt stand up to what the older ones could because they arent made for that i dont think. As we get older i think we lose some of our imaginitive play with all our action figures we collect nowadays, i never played with my Marvel Legends, i bought them for display and posing, even those wouldnt last like the 90's ones did i dont think. Its what these lines are directed at i think, and if thats the case, they do their job well.