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Since we have had a huge number of products anounced in the last month between Joe Con and SDCC, I thought it was about time to give members a chance to voice their opinions on each of the products. To that end, I encourage members to provide their opinions of each product. Wave 5 comic packs, and multipacks have been covered in another thread, so we'll ignore those here.

 

I will take the liberty of going first:

 

Single Figures Wave 10

 

Tiger Force Duke: Never minded the original Duke arms, combined with no interest in TF, and he's a pass for me, even if he does include the proper accessories. I'll wait for HoH edition.

Mutt and Junkyard: One of my earliest and favorite joes. A great update, might army build him.

CrocMaster: Never a favourite, but a good interpretation.

Wraith: Actually rather liked him in the DDP run, the figure could be better, but I doubt he'll see another release for some time, so I'll pick him up.

ParaViper: Not completely sold on him, he seems to have WAY too much gear to move. I'll see what I think in person, but probably not.

Bazooka Soldier: Army builder for sure.

 

Single Figures Wave 11

 

Glenda (Pilot Scarlett): Very good outfit, but she seems to have red hair which is a disappointment. Ah well, will have to buy some testors blond paint to go with her.

EDIT: Yep, just checked out yojoe.com and she has RED hair

Flint (in Cobra gear): The ONLY redeeming point for him is he comes with a spare trooper head, and I can get some red sigil troopers to armybuild.

Airborne: Looks great, never had the original but always wanted him. Now we just need Cover Girl to round out '84.

Eels: Amazing! Army building the hell outa him (just like the BAT if I ever find one)

Zartan with Swamp Skier: Much better than version one. The Skier is just a bonus for me. The head still seems off though.

Specialist Matt Trakker (MASK): For the longest time I was furious they were spending a spot on him, but now I actually quite like him. A decent mold that they will hopefully find more uses for.

Vehicles Waves 2+3 and Exclusives

 

Firebat with Avac: Awesome. Army builder.

Sharc with Deep Six: I'm getting sick of the vehicle but I'll get it for a classic Deep Six (the lack of articulation doesn't bother me, its still a cool figure)

FANG and CLAW: HOLY MOTHER OF MERCY! Still trying to find my jaw after seeing this. Definately picking up every one I see.

Skyhawk with LiftTicket: Always wanted a Skyhawk, always wanted LiftTicked, always wanted a Tomahawk. Well, two outta three is pretty good, especially if its 25th style. *preying for a Tomahawk in the near future*

AWE with Leatherneck: Sick of the vehicle, and can't stand the figure. Hopefully they'll put out the classic version soon.

Water Moccosin with Copperhead: A well deserved new mold for a great vehicle. I know I've got the original around here somewhere. Not thrilled with the Copperhead though, guess I'm just not a PP fan.

Conquest with Slipstream: Another pair I've always wanted.

Rattler with Wild Weasel: Not thrilled about the same WW a second time, but the Rattler's worth it.

 

Comic Packs Wave 6

 

Mainframe and BeachHead: Now, I'll admit thats a more classic looking uniform for BeachHead, but the head looks really wrong to me. Mainframe (I'm NEVER calling him the other name) looks great to me. His gun gives me hope for DialTone also.

SnakeEyes and Hard Master: Not thrilled, but not disappointed either. SE might be good for a Kamakura custom.

Wild Bill and Scrap Iron: Wasen't happy about another Wild Bill, but I quite like these colors for some odd reason. My jaw's still on the floor after seeing Scrap Iron - one word: perfect!

 

Combat Heros and Mighty Muggs

 

I've never liked either concept, so I'll pass on commenting, it would be highly negative anyway. (Mind you the SE and timber exclusive is kinda nice)

 

Lets hear what you guys think.

 

And try not to drool on the keyboard.

 

 

 

 

 

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Single Figures Wave 10

 

Tiger Force Duke: While I like the original Tiger Force, this isn't really a huge "want" on my list. Kind of impartial to this figure

Mutt and Junkyard: Awesome figure! Can't wait to get him.

CrocMaster: Along with Mutt, one of the top two figures in this wave. They did a great job of updating an awesome character!

Wraith: Blah. Never read the DD comics. Don't know the character. Figure looks like a Robocop knock-off.

ParaViper: This figure just looks too busy. WAY too much going on. The colors aren't the greatest either. Waiting until I have him in hand to pass final judgement though.

Bazooka Soldier: Eh...If we must have repaints, I'll take army builders over another SE, SS, or Duke I guess.

 

Single Figures Wave 11

 

Glenda (Pilot Scarlett): Never even knew about the international figure until this figure was announced. It looks good, but can't say I'm all that excited about it.

Flint (in Cobra gear): The figure looks good, but I could've lived without him. At least he comes with a Cobra Trooper head.

Airborne: I'm really glad we get to see Airborne. This figure looks fantastic.

Eels: I've been waiting for this one! One of my favorite Cobra troops...and they did a great job on him!

Zartan with Swamp Skier: Better than the first 25th Zartan, but like I said before, something still seems a little off here.

Specialist Matt Trakker (MASK): The figure looks good, and I like MASK, but I would've preferred another original Joe here.

 

Vehicles Waves 2+3 and Exclusives

 

Firebat with Avac: I'm really glad they are releasing this. I'll be picking up 3 if I can get my hands on that many.

Sharc with Deep Six: Can live with it, but could've lived without it too. Nothing all that special about the Sharc.

FANG and CLAW: Great pack for people who don't have these vehicles. I have 2 complete vintage Fangs, so this isn't that big of a deal to me. I wish they would've given us the original CLAW, but the mold is probably long gone.

Skyhawk with LiftTicket: Never been a big fan of the Skyhawk, but I'll pick one up.

AWE with Leatherneck: I love AWE's, but the Leatherneck is a dud...worst 25th figure so far, IMO.

Water Moccosin with Copperhead: I really love the updated color scheme on the Moccasin. Can't wait to get it!

Conquest with Slipstream: The Conquest never really excited me. It's a decent plane, so I'll get one, but would've preferred something else like a Tomahawk.

Rattler with Wild Weasel: Nice to see the Rattler making another appearance. I'll definitely be getting one.

 

Comic Packs Wave 6

 

Mainframe and BeachHead: Glad to see Mainframe...but he looks kinda messed up. Beachhead is strange looking too. I still don't understand how they can give Beachhead 2 new head sculpts, but can't give Leatherneck a new one. :(

SnakeEyes and Hard Master: I can't wait to get Lifeline. @lol@ Seriously...this pack is the worst of the upcoming comic packs.

Wild Bill and Scrap Iron: This is a must have for me. Scrap Iron is one of my favorite Cobra characters, and they did an excellent job on him.

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Single Figures Wave 10

 

Tiger Force Duke: I liked the TF stuff when it came out the first time great homage

Mutt and Junkyard: one word AWSOME

CrocMaster: one word AWSOME

Wraith: ok figure but i seen a better custom done of him. i hope i can get both of them without having to cut off my right arm to get them.

ParaViper: Not sure what to think yet. so what is the real specialty of a para-trooper

Bazooka Soldier: i dont know

 

Single Figures Wave 11

 

Glenda (Pilot Scarlett): Very good outfit.

Flint (in Cobra gear): i like him, instead of a head swap he should have came with a mask

Airborne: Great work hasbro

Eels: Amazing! could not have said it better myself

Zartan with Swamp Skier: we will see. i was looking back at some files i have of him and the first one looks more like the DD zartan.

Specialist Matt Trakker (MASK): i like this figure.

Vehicles Waves 2+3 and Exclusives

 

Firebat with Avac: Awesome.

Sharc with Deep Six: i will not get this item because hasbro could have done a lot better on this figure.

FANG and CLAW: awsome is an understatement

Skyhawk with LiftTicket: great figure i dont care about the skyhawk

AWE with Leatherneck: i dont ever remember leatherneck having a shoulder plate. hasbro messed another one up again.

Water Moccosin with Copperhead: i liked the PP as a child but i have to say it looks like they fixed the left hand that would be a plus

Conquest with Slipstream: i never had this and i cant wait.

Rattler with Wild Weasel: again i cant wait

 

Comic Packs Wave 6

 

Mainframe and BeachHead: mainframe yes beachhead no

SnakeEyes and Hard Master: hard master yes kamakura yes

Wild Bill and Scrap Iron: great scrap iron figure to bad you cant take his helmet off

 

Combat Heros and Mighty Muggs

 

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Single Figures Wave 10

 

Tiger Force Duke: pass

Mutt and Junkyard: must-have

CrocMaster: looks great, I'll grab one.

Wraith: pass

ParaViper: not sure yet... not sold on the colors.

Bazooka Soldier: I'll take 2

 

Single Figures Wave 11

 

Glenda (Pilot Scarlett): Pretty cool.

Flint (in Cobra gear): pass

Airborne: must-have

Eels: I'll take 2

Zartan with Swamp Skier: pass, although the head looks better.

Specialist Matt Trakker (MASK): for me, this is a must-have

 

Vehicles Waves 2+3 and Exclusives

 

Firebat with Avac: oh hell yes

Sharc with Deep Six: pass

FANG and CLAW: pass

Skyhawk with LiftTicket: looks great, loved that vehicle

AWE with Leatherneck: pass

Water Moccosin with Copperhead: pass

Conquest with Slipstream: pass

Rattler with Wild Weasel: maybe...$$

 

Comic Packs Wave 6

 

Mainframe and BeachHead: maybe... we'll see.

SnakeEyes and Hard Master: meh, pass

Wild Bill and Scrap Iron: why so many Wild Bills? another maybe.

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I think I might stick to buying the older joe stuff that I don't have. The 25th line has gone down hill for me. Aside from the vehicles, I probably won't be getting anything. I say that now but its hard to resist something that says GI JOE on it in the stores... If you can even find them that is.

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I getting most of this stuff except hunk of plastic Deep Six with Sharc. Not thrilled with about the cobra power rangers that come with the Fang and the Claw either. Everything else rocks in my book.

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Single Figures Wave 10

Tiger Force Duke: Glad they fixed the arms

Mutt and Junkyard: Very nice

CrocMaster: looks great

Wraith: IT's okay, although when I saw it at the Con I thought his helmet looked to wide

ParaViper: not bad, I remember Hasbro saying the color scheme was a nod to the Cobra Mamba

Bazooka Soldier: passing on this figure

 

Single Figures Wave 11

Glenda (Pilot Scarlett): Nice nod to Glenda

Flint (in Cobra gear): passing on this figure

Airborne: very nice!

Eels: Looks good, wanting pics with helmet on!!!

Zartan with Swamp Skier: Nice try, still not Zartan to me and the Swamp Skier is lame!

Specialist Matt Trakker (MASK): Nice tribute figure

 

Vehicles Waves 2+3 and Exclusives

Firebat with Avac: Very cool

Sharc with Deep Six: If I would have known this was coming out, I would have passed on the Night Specter

FANG and CLAW: awesome to see again!

Skyhawk with LiftTicket: looks great

AWE with Leatherneck: I'll probably pass, I want Leatherneck in his original colors

Water Moccosin with Copperhead: Great!

Conquest with Slipstream: cool but I'll probably pass

Rattler with Wild Weasel: Definite buy, curious to see how they reworked the cockpit to get him to fit.

 

Comic Packs Wave 6

Mainframe and Beach Head: Liking Mainframe, not to sure about Beach Head

SnakeEyes and Hard Master: pass

Wild Bill and Scrap Iron: Liking the Sunbow colors on Wild Bill, Scrap Iron looks awesome!

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I copied brothershane's post so I don't have to re-wriet the whole thing:

 

Single Figures Wave 10

Tiger Force Duke: Meh.

Mutt and Junkyard:I want it

CrocMaster: I want it

Wraith: I want it, and I'm very glad they did him, didn't expect to see him a year ago. That's for sure.

ParaViper: Meh.

Bazooka Soldier: I want 4 of them!

 

Single Figures Wave 11

Glenda (Pilot Scarlett): I want it

Flint (in Cobra gear): passing on this figure

Airborne: I want it

Eels: Looks good, wanting pics with helmet on!!!

Zartan with Swamp Skier: I want it. I'm going to part swap him with the 1st one we got.

Specialist Matt Trakker (MASK): Nice tribute figure

 

Vehicles Waves 2+3 and Exclusives

Firebat with Avac: Very cool

Sharc with Deep Six: Meh.

FANG and CLAW: awesome to see again! Want a bunch of 'em

Skyhawk with LiftTicket: looks great

AWE with Leatherneck: meh. pass

Water Moccosin with Copperhead: Meh. I'm holding out for a hydrofoil.

Conquest with Slipstream: I want it

Rattler with Wild Weasel: Definite buy, curious to see how they reworked the cockpit to get him to fit.

 

Comic Packs Wave 6

Mainframe and Beach Head: Liking Mainframe, not to sure about Beach Head

SnakeEyes and Hard Master: pass

Wild Bill and Scrap Iron: Liking the Sunbow colors on Wild Bill, Scrap Iron looks awesome!

 

All in all I'm quite pleased!

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I'm really liking what I see at SDCC. All in all, some great stuff coming out. Which is good because after this 25th line (or whatever you want to call it now) is done, I'm seriously considering quitting modern action figures all together. At least I'll go out on top.

 

Some I'll comment in particular on (you can assume I like all the rest just fine):

 

 

Single Figures Wave 10

 

CrocMaster: I was hoping for a new design for him--along the lines of Serpentor and Zartan. In the comic, both CM I and CM II died. Would have been cool to get a CM III.

Wraith: Hope I can find his variant!

 

Single Figures Wave 11

 

Glenda (Pilot Scarlett): I'll take any international figures they give us!

Airborne: Possibly one of the best 25th Joes (!?)

Zartan with Swamp Skier: Really sharp figure there.

Specialist Matt Trakker (MASK): This is a genious move by Hasbro! Love this figure. Love that he has NOTHING to do with GI Joe, but they threw him in anyway. Love that it makes some people grumpy. To all the complainers: He didn't "take" anyone's spot. There will be characters that don't get 25th treatment. Whether they make Matt or not.

 

 

AWE with Leatherneck: If Gung Ho didn't have that head first, everyone would love this guy.

 

 

Wild Bill and Scrap Iron: I've silently hoped for a cartoon Wild Bill. This is great. And Scrap Iron rocks it.

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Great topic! I pretty much want all of Wave 10 except for Wraith, probably because I stopped reading the DDP books after the first mini-series (I'm excited about the new IDW series though...). The Para-viper's really cool, and an Eel just like the Snow Serpent. Mutt comes with the best ever 4"-scale Triumph the Insult-Comic Dog-- just needs a clay cigar and bow tie and he'll be ready for the next installment of Twisted Toyfare Theatre! My one must-have is fairly contraversial, though. My childhood is forever linked to Tiger Force Duke, the first version of my favorite Joe that I could easily find in stores. I always thought that one fell short of his potential (like the great '92 Duke who was unfortunately painted by a blind person), and wished he was blonde like on the card. This new one's PERFECT!!

 

Sadly (I've been on a tight 'actionfigure/ useless crap' budget since my son was born), I seem to like Wave 11 just as much. I thought the Flint was a pass until I saw the extra head-- more fodder for the bloody sword of Snake-eyes! Trakker is an in-joke that suddenly went, well, awesome. And Scarlett is a must-have for the card art alone!

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Single Figures Wave 10

Tiger Force Duke:Pass.

Mutt and Junkyard: wait till i see in person

CrocMaster: I want it

Wraith: I never thought this figure would ever come out. I will buy him.

ParaViper: ok This should have been Ripcord.

Bazooka Soldier: pass..

 

Single Figures Wave 11

Glenda (Pilot Scarlett): I want it

Flint (in Cobra gear): passing on this figure

Airborne: I want it

Eels: Looks good, wait till i see it in perosn

Zartan with Swamp Skier: I might pass wait and see

Specialist Matt Trakker (MASK): Man I can't wait to read his file card. I want this Figure and I hope they do more or this sparks arenewing of the line.

 

Vehicles Waves 2+3 and Exclusives

Firebat with Avac: Very cool and I will get a few

Sharc with Deep Six: untill they can figure out how to put seats in it no more!

FANG and CLAW: if i see them

Skyhawk with LiftTicket: will get a few. WOW!

AWE with Leatherneck: pass

Water Moccosin with Copperhead: I love that as a kid. I will buy more than one.

Conquest with Slipstream: pass

Rattler with Wild Weasel: wait and see

 

Comic Packs Wave 6

Mainframe and Beach Head: I like beachhead but Mainframe coudl have had a better fixed crotch.

SnakeEyes and Hard Master: pass

Wild Bill and Scrap Iron: Man, This is a cool two pack

 

 

I really do like some of the series. My only beef and I am sure people have heard it before. The don't really fit in well with the old school joes and I like to mix everything together.

 

But, I will say some of the figures I really do like.

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Single Figures Wave 10

 

Tiger Force Duke: Didn't really want any Tiger Force guys till I saw TF Flint on the shelf, now I have to have this guy. The fact that he comes with all the right gear AND fixed arms just helps his case.

Mutt and Junkyard: Awesome! For Sure buy!

CrocMaster: Never liked the guy. Never had the guy as a kid, but I'll end up buying him.

Wraith: Yeah big pass. No intreist in DDP guys.

ParaViper: Well....I appericate the effort, but I'm just not feeling this guy. Pass.

Bazooka Soldier: Another big pass. It's just a Trooper with an RPG. I'll wait for the HEAT Viper if they ever make one.

 

Single Figures Wave 11

 

Glenda (Pilot Scarlett): Never much cared for the internation stuff and I've pssed up the Red Ninja (Satan) and Ninja Ku so far....going to pass this one up too.

Flint (in Cobra gear): This figure really should have been in the Weather Dominator pack and maybe Cartoon Desto or Lady Jaye should have got this spot.

Airborne: Love it! Been waiting for this guy. Now let's see Cover Girl, Blowtorch, and Recondo.

Eels: One my favs, and they did an amazing job. A shoe in for my army building habit.

Zartan with Swamp Skier: Much better then the one we got, but I might swap out my Wave 3 Zartan head.

Specialist Matt Trakker (MASK): It's cool.....but I'm collecting Joe, not Mask. So Pass.

Vehicles Waves 2+3 and Exclusives

 

Firebat with Avac: I love that they fixed the mold. Never thought they would. Good to see this one again.

Sharc with Deep Six: I'm buying it....but this the last Sharc I'm buying.

FANG and CLAW: LOVE! Hate the deco on the figures that come with it. Don't know what was wrong with just using the same deco from the Single carded figures. Didn't seem to bother them too much with Serpentor or Breaker. Don't know why these guys need all new Decos.

Skyhawk with LiftTicket: I love both of them, but i hope this doesn't rule out a Tomahawk down the line. Course the Steeler that came with Armadillo didn't rule out the Mobat...So I guess I shouldn't worry.

AWE with Leatherneck: Yeah big pass. I got a green AWE Striker already and that isn't Leatherneck. That's buzzer with Gung Hos head.

Water Moccosin with Copperhead: Glad to see this one again. And man did they rework this mold. I had this thing as a kid and I would almost think this is a completely new mold here.

Conquest with Slipstream:Can't wait...just hope I can find them.

Rattler with Wild Weasel: Same as above.

 

Comic Packs Wave 6

 

Mainframe and BeachHead: I like both of these. Hope Mainfram comes with his backpack. And this BeachHead looks a lot more like his classic figure which is always a plus in my book.

SnakeEyes and Hard Master: Don't care, don't want. Pass.

Wild Bill and Scrap Iron: Getting this for Scrap Iron, but looking at him it'll be worth every penny.

 

Combat Heros and Mighty Muggs

 

If I get either one of these lines it'll be the Combat Heroes since I already have some Robot and Galactic Heroes.

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Single Figures Wave 10 over all a 10 out of 10

 

Tiger Force Duke: 7 out of 10

Mutt and Junkyard: 10 out of 10

CrocMaster: 10 out of 10

Wraith: 10 out of 10

ParaViper: 10 out of 10

Bazooka Soldier: Army builder for sure.

 

Single Figures Wave 11 8 out of 10

 

Glenda (Pilot Scarlett): Pass

Flint (in Cobra gear): witch one will we get red,gray or black

Airborne: 10 can we say Hit N Run

Eels: 10 oh yes

Zartan with Swamp Skier: 10 this is what we should of got

Specialist Matt Trakker (MASK): Pass ,but will make an awsome Annihilator

 

Vehicles Waves 2+3 and Exclusives 8 OUT OF 10

 

Firebat with Avac: Awesome. Army builder. 10

Sharc with Deep Six: I'm getting sick of the vehicle PASS -5

FANG and CLAW: GETTING 10

Skyhawk with LiftTicket: OH YES GETTING A FEW10

AWE with Leatherneck: PASS LEATHERNECK SUCKS 5

Water Moccosin with Copperhead: AWSOME UPDATE 10

Conquest with Slipstream: GETTING 10

Rattler with Wild Weasel: GETTING 10

 

Comic Packs Wave 6 9 OUT OF 10

 

Mainframe and BeachHead: OH YES 10

SnakeEyes and Hard Master: NOT BAD 8

Wild Bill and Scrap Iron: 10

 

Combat Heros and Mighty Muggs PASS ON ALL OF THEM.

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Single Figures Wave 10 over all a 10 out of 10

 

Tiger Force Duke: 7 out of 10

Mutt and Junkyard: 10 out of 10

CrocMaster: 10 out of 10

Wraith: 10 out of 10

ParaViper: 10 out of 10

Bazooka Soldier: Army builder for sure.

 

Single Figures Wave 11 8 out of 10

 

Glenda (Pilot Scarlett): Pass

Flint (in Cobra gear): witch one will we get red,gray or black

Airborne: 10 can we say Hit N Run

Eels: 10 oh yes

Zartan with Swamp Skier: 10 this is what we should of got

Specialist Matt Trakker (MASK): Pass ,but will make an awsome Annihilator

 

Vehicles Waves 2+3 and Exclusives 8 OUT OF 10

 

Firebat with Avac: Awesome. Army builder. 10

Sharc with Deep Six: I'm getting sick of the vehicle PASS -5

FANG and CLAW: GETTING 10

Skyhawk with LiftTicket: OH YES GETTING A FEW10

AWE with Leatherneck: PASS LEATHERNECK SUCKS 5

Water Moccosin with Copperhead: AWSOME UPDATE 10

Conquest with Slipstream: GETTING 10

Rattler with Wild Weasel: GETTING 10

 

Comic Packs Wave 6 9 OUT OF 10

 

Mainframe and BeachHead: OH YES 10

SnakeEyes and Hard Master: NOT BAD 8

Wild Bill and Scrap Iron: 10

 

Combat Heros and Mighty Muggs PASS ON ALL OF THEM.

 

 

As great as that Airborne figure is, I would definitely rather have a Hit 'N Run (could Hasbro still call him that w/o reminding parents of automobile accidents?). I STILL can't find my old one after he did a little recon in my friend's front yard 20 years ago! One of the best Joes ever.

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Single Figures Wave 10

 

Tiger Force Duke: Didn't really want any Tiger Force guys till I saw TF Flint on the shelf, now I have to have this guy. The fact that he comes with all the right gear AND fixed arms just helps his case.

Mutt and Junkyard: Awesome! For Sure buy!

CrocMaster: Never liked the guy. Never had the guy as a kid, but I'll end up buying him.

Wraith: Yeah big pass. No intreist in DDP guys.

ParaViper: Well....I appericate the effort, but I'm just not feeling this guy. Pass.

Bazooka Soldier: Another big pass. It's just a Trooper with an RPG. I'll wait for the HEAT Viper if they ever make one.

 

Most of the repaints in the '88 core TF squad (infantry?) were pretty good, some like Bazooka and Lifeline were actually an improvement. Except for Tripwire -- they should have just flocked that guy's body armor to give him a nice fuzy cat belly! :)

 

By going the "Tiger Force" route on the 'fixed' versions of Duke and Flint, Hasbro is creating logical redecos with some history to them, without neccessarily making the fans who bought earlier, more 'classic' versions feel ripped-off. For instance, I feel like a sucker for buying the Jet-pack Duke when in a couple of months they're just throwing in a far more cartoon accurate one in a DVD pack that I was planning to get anyways. And don't get me started on the 'Cartoon' Cobra Commander, who has a piece that you need for the MASS Device (we'll be seeing some bootleg customs of those in the near future, mark my words)... Star Wars all over again, I guess.

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Oh, I've been pretty much blown away by the stuff Hasbro showed at SDCC. It's going to be hard but I need to be really conservative in my purchases, picking only a couple of the best from each wave, and staying away from most of the vehicles. The real problem is that Joe seems to be having its best year in two decades, while Transformers Classics is back with the likes of Sunstreaker and Ironhide, and Mattel has gotten into the action with new web-exclusive MOTU Classics at $20 a pop. It's all a child of the '80s can do to keep his family off food stamps!

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