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12" Snake-Eyes from Sideshow


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I was all set for it until I saw the $120 price. That's just a bit steep. I think I'll have to think about it for a couple of days.

 

 

The nice thing about Sideshow is that you can preorder and you can always cancel later with no penalty.

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The price kinda shocked me. I know that Sideshow's price scheme fluctuates based on the figure released - just look at the variety of prices across the Star Wars 12" line.

 

I was considering "going completist" on this line...but starting it out at $120 is tough to swallow.

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Very nice looking!

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wow... and I had a hard time spending $50 on the SW figs and that's why I stopped.. there's no way I'll get any of these unless I won one, lol.. he looks nice though.. but that's like 2.5 full tanks of gas(that's how I see things now-a-days, lol).

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That's too high for me.

 

I doubt the price would be lower or much lower for the non exclusive.

 

Sideshow Exclusive: Additional switch-out gloved right hand with punch dagger, separate punch dagger and punch dagger sheath!

I don't think they could cut off $50 just because they take these away.

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I don't see the non exclusive being even close to $70... from the link it looks like you get an extra set of hands.. you're telling me the extra set of hands cost $50? I'm betting the non-exclusive will be around $100

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Preordered the exclusive....just in case! :D

 

What up Jase. :) Got mine too. As far as the regular edition it'll be the same price. If you want to save a couple of bucks you can order it from an online retailer for a few bucks less if you don't want the punching dagger. Sideshow stated that the cheapest Joe (think Quick Kick or maybe a Cobra Trooper) would be $79.99. Snake Eyes is pretty much guaranteed to be on the high end due to the sheer volume of his accessories.

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Maybe the non-exclusive will be in the 70 range. I hope they announce the remainder of the line at SDCC

 

 

The regular edition will be the same price, $120. And they won't announce the remainder of the line at SDCC. Sideshow will prob do anywhere from 5-8 figures a year. They might show one other figure at SDCC, but don't expect much.

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The Exclusive one was already sold out by the time I found out about these so I just ordered the regular one and I'm pissed that I had to pay the same price and the fact that they are charging $120 is ridiculous!

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A lot of you are probably unfamiliar with the 12'' figure field.

 

It is not all about Hasbro and what Mattel and all them put out there. The 12'' figure realm has grown by leaps and bounds in popularity, detail and licenses thanks to companies like Hot Toys, Sideshow and Medicom. Take a look at all those products... Hot Toys' figures retail between $99-$150 on average with a few rare higher-priced piece (1:6 scale Power Loader) and $150 is a common price for Medicom figures. Sideshow was cheap before...but they won't be anymore.

 

Keep in mind that the body designs underneath the suits also cost money to make and offer a wide variety of poses.

 

Sideshow JUST RECENTLY announced a new figure body called the "Prometheus". Their previous body, the "Art S. Buck" was TERRIBLE and crappy and the ONLY way they could compete with Medicom and Hot Toys with that body style was their low prices. To give you some detail, the Buck body had limited poses on top of poor joint construction that made a lot of poses look "unnatural". It did not hold a candle to the Hot Toys' TRUETYPE body and Medicom's RAH Model.

 

Because this new figure body has much more to it, it of course will cost more to produce and that cost will also be added to Sideshow's figures. Sideshow's Indiana Jones will be the FIRST figure to feature the Prometheus body, Snake-Eyes is obviously looking to be the second. Keep in mind too that Snake-Eyes has TONS of accessories that have never been seen with a Sideshow figure before. I believe no SS figure has EVER had this much stuff...and that costs money to develop as well.

 

To stay afloat in the 12'' figure market, Sideshow had to develop a new figure body. They have some amazing licenses, but they would always fall short with that damn Buck body... now with Prometheus, they can step up their game but unfortunately that comes with a step up in prices as well.

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Sideshow does really good quality and you do get your moneys worth. Snake Eyes does have a ton of stuff with him and doesn't Sideshow use real leather and metal? That's not cheap.

 

They are just starting the Joe line at a bad time for me when there is no way I can afford them.

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It is not all about Hasbro and what Mattel and all them put out there. The 12'' figure realm has grown by leaps and bounds in popularity, detail and licenses thanks to companies like Hot Toys, Sideshow and Medicom.

 

Yes, and no.

 

Yes, in that there's more being offered than that by Hasbro and Mattel--who are not offering much in 1/6th outside of Barbie in Mattel's case these days.

No, in that the 1/6th scale realm has ( or is) grown by leaps and bounds--which is not the case. 1/6th has been on a steady decline since the year 2000. All of the major players have cut back their releases, Dragon, BBi, Dragon in Dreams, 21C etc--and some, like 21C have all but dropped out of the 1/6th game ( except for their weapons sets).

Sideshow has maintained a presence in collectible specialty stores by focus on a very niche 1/6 clientele interest.

That's why their stuff can be priced so high, its aimed at a very small market.

 

I did 1/6th for a long time, and still have hundreds of figures--but I cannot afford the stuff coming out these days.

I can kitbash a decent version ( to maybe about 75%) with existing mid-to-high-end accessories and such for about $40-$50. It would not be AS NICE, but it would be a heckuva lot cheaper.

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It is not all about Hasbro and what Mattel and all them put out there. The 12'' figure realm has grown by leaps and bounds in popularity, detail and licenses thanks to companies like Hot Toys, Sideshow and Medicom.

 

Yes, and no.

 

Yes, in that there's more being offered than that by Hasbro and Mattel--who are not offering much in 1/6th outside of Barbie in Mattel's case these days.

No, in that the 1/6th scale realm has ( or is) grown by leaps and bounds--which is not the case. 1/6th has been on a steady decline since the year 2000. All of the major players have cut back their releases, Dragon, BBi, Dragon in Dreams, 21C etc--and some, like 21C have all but dropped out of the 1/6th game ( except for their weapons sets).

Sideshow has maintained a presence in collectible specialty stores by focus on a very niche 1/6 clientele interest.

That's why their stuff can be priced so high, its aimed at a very small market.

 

I did 1/6th for a long time, and still have hundreds of figures--but I cannot afford the stuff coming out these days.

I can kitbash a decent version ( to maybe about 75%) with existing mid-to-high-end accessories and such for about $40-$50. It would not be AS NICE, but it would be a heckuva lot cheaper.

 

ARROW, it sounds like you haven't had a look at the 1:6 figure field NOW.

 

You've mentioned BBI, Dragon, etc. who have cut down on their release, of course they have but that was because they couldn't keep up by just releasing military figures. The 1:6 figure realm has expanded much further than just military figures...it's gone into A LOT of licensing and to see where it shines you have to look further than companies like Dragon, BBI, etc.

 

Sideshow took off like a rocket when they acquired the Star Wars license...and we know SW fans gobble EVERYTHING up no matter what. This perhaps turned those fans onto other offerings and products. Ever since getting Star Wars, Sideshow has added several other 1:6 licenses to their resume, LotR, Indiana Jones, and now even G.I. Joe.

 

Then lets look at Hot Toys...I remember when these guys first unveiled their first couple of licensed figures: Superman Returns, Batman Begins, Corporal Hicks, Sgt. Apone and two Predators from AvP. Take a look at their website and look at their product selection (both current and coming soon) now:

http://www.hottoys.com.hk/

 

Take a look at Japan's 1:6 company as well, Medicom.

 

Now it terms of popularity, there's no chart or whatever we can pull up to look at that. However, I've been in the 1:6 figure realm more recently and I've seen a certain up-hill trend. Yet that may be a matter of my own perspective as you have your own. Actually there is such a HUGE LACK OF 1:6 FIGURE DISCUSSION here on TNI that it's "foreign territory" to a lot of people here. They may know OF IT, they may know WHAT IT IS, but they don't know all the players, they don't know all the products, etc. etc. I speak from experience because I had to find another forum where that discussion was much more plentiful. You don't really know what's going on with it from just being on TNI.

 

Let's not also forget that the 1:6 figure market is also VERY POPULAR overseas as well in the Asian markets. You can probably credit them more for sales than the USA. Which in turn can give these companies more opportunities to grow and offer more product for us Western collectors.

 

No need to debate price points, it's obvious the figures are much more expensive than they used to be. But the quality, licenses, and detail have certainly gone up 10-fold from what you may have known. It's a much pricier hobby.

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Now it terms of popularity, there's no chart or whatever we can pull up to look at that. However, I've been in the 1:6 figure realm more recently and I've seen a certain up-hill trend. Yet that may be a matter of my own perspective as you have your own. Actually there is such a HUGE LACK OF 1:6 FIGURE DISCUSSION here on TNI that it's "foreign territory" to a lot of people here. They may know OF IT, they may know WHAT IT IS, but they don't know all the players, they don't know all the products, etc. etc. I speak from experience because I had to find another forum where that discussion was much more plentiful. You don't really know what's going on with it from just being on TNI.

 

I've been a 1/6th scale collector since the mid 80's, I have several hundred figures in my collection, and I have paid attention to the trends and offerings over the years even though I collect far less than I used to. I've been involved in many of the on-line 1/6th scale communities since 1995, and TNI isn't one I count amongst them.

 

The stuff that Sideshow is producing, in terms of unit numbers is single-digit percentages compared to what Hasbro, Mattel, 21C, Formative and a few others were making just under a decade ago. They profit because they make enough to address a niche audience, not a mass one. The popularity you speak of is limited to those folks that wander into a specialty store (or on-line venue) to buy these, not a mass-retailer.

Yes, Hot Toys, Medicom and Sideshow have diversified, but they are not addressing a clientele that is any larger than the military figure collector base used to be--and it was discovered that collector base is a LOT smaller than people thought.

Sideshow is not selling these things in hundred units-per in collectible stores, they are selling maybe a dozen-per store. Hasbro still sold far more 1/6th Star Wars figures at TRU and Walmart but virtue of accessiblity.

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