Paramount Already Having To Do Damage Control For GIJoe Movie???

[Slaughter]

Remeber, in Spiderman they did change alot. gwen stacy wasnt supposed to be in the third movie, she was supposed to die in the first. Mary jane wasnt supposed to be there at all. Why did they change it? becuase more people know of mary jane then Gwen. it worked didnt it?

 

Popular thought is that they will go the ULTIMATES route and kill Gwen with CARNAGE, since they already did the bridge scene. However, Doc Connors has been mentioned and established on screen, when do we get to see the LIZARD? It's like the old Hitchcock BOMB bit.

 

For Trans 2, I'd like to see them soften up and humanize the autobots, to relate to the humans more like the Alternators, with faces and more personality. And Yes they could've done G1esque without being too blocky. There was an RID Ultra MAgnus that was an updated Flat Face truck that looked pretty awesome. TF upgraded to BALL JOINT figures and they all became pretty cool. THE CLASSICS line did exactly that....G1 with MODERN look and ARTICULATION. Bumblebee isn't a bug but it works and he looks G1 in robot mode. So maybe they can DE Alienize them a bit with it making sense within the story.

 

HOWEVER, somebody still needs to explain why WITHIN THEIR OWN MOVIE/TOYLINE that BRAWLs name was changed to DEVASTATOR and this inconsistency was never addressed. BRAWL was from Bruticus and Bonecrusher was Devastator. AND THO, we couldn't have Frenzy look anything like a Boombox in Robot mode, we can have a 7 up machine go ballistic. Yet Ihave to say, BARRICADE was created for the movie and became a huge hit. SO why not do Marlon a MOVIE EXCLUSIVE CHARACTER as well? He's taking heat for something not of his control, again, I think he's good. I just wouldn't call him RIPCORD.

[Devilbat]

How much did they excise from the book to realize that story into a two hour movie?

I've never read the book, but I'm reasonably sure there's more "read" to it than what's found in a 2 hour move...

The translation of something from one medium to another almost always results in differences.

 

Actually they added things to the film that weren't in the book. In the beginning of the film, you see the German air raids over Great Britain, and you see the children and their mother running for cover. The book only passively mentions the bombings. Other than that, things are pretty-much spot on from the book. I've read it several times, and I can't remember them changing much else, if anything. Now of course they took some liberties as to how the centaur warriors and the White Witch looked, but there were no plot changes to the story or behavior changes to the characters.

[kingmoredred]

I dont agree with wayons being ripcord, but i like him as a actor and think he would be a good addition to the movie. Not as a new charactor but as a allready established one like link t. from V vs V. I dont really care for that line just i think he whould fit him.

 

On a side note does anyone remeber those live action cards that came with figures? I dont know how long ago it was i just remeber having a snowjob card that was with a real guy. I thought they were making a live action movie then. That was before i knew anything about the internet and had no way of checking it out. Those where the days, not knowing what was coming next just having a card back and maybe a insert to drool over.

[Devilbat]

I may be a "blasphemer" here, but to be honest, at the end of the day, I don't see Ripcord as much of a major character. It doesn't really matter to me that he would be African American in the movie. It's not that big of a deal to me personally. It does make one wonder though, if they would go so far as to change a character's ethnicity, what else would they change? I think that's what everybody's worried about.

[Slaughter]

On a side note does anyone remeber those live action cards that came with figures? I dont know how long ago it was i just remeber having a snowjob card that was with a real guy. I thought they were making a live action movie then. That was before i knew anything about the internet and had no way of checking it out. Those where the days, not knowing what was coming next just having a card back and maybe a insert to drool over.

 

 

 

No but I still have a poster somewhere of a live action Joe team from like '87. I also remember several live action commercials, one with SUPER TROOPER. Was hoping then for a live action movie as well.

[Admiral Hunter]

On a side note does anyone remeber those live action cards that came with figures? I dont know how long ago it was i just remeber having a snowjob card that was with a real guy. I thought they were making a live action movie then. That was before i knew anything about the internet and had no way of checking it out. Those where the days, not knowing what was coming next just having a card back and maybe a insert to drool over.

 

 

 

No but I still have a poster somewhere of a live action Joe team from like '87. I also remember several live action commercials, one with SUPER TROOPER. Was hoping then for a live action movie as well.

 

The cards he's talking about came in 1992 or so with the Mega-Marines, and some Star-Brigade figures. I think they also came with Battle Corps figures, but I could be wrong. I never had a complete set, but it was quite awesome to have them.

 

http://www.yojoe.com/archive/tradingcards/search.shtml

 

-Kevin

[Dragonrider1227]

I'm still holding off on opinion until I see a coming attraction

[Admiral Hunter]

I also never realized that the Armor BOT was originally a Cobra weapon! (I obviously never had Cards 19 or M4)

 

-Kevin

[Blackmada]

That girl dressed as Scarlett was hot from those cards.

[Destro]

You know the quote, right? "You'll never go broke appealing to the lowest common denominator." Yeah, it appealed to people, the same way America's Funniest Home Videos appeal to people.

I do agree in a way, but then we are talking about giant robots that beat the crap outta each other; it ain't gonna be the robotic equivalent of King Lear; that should be a given. I mean, you're not gonna get an oscar-worthy story out of it; it's a kid's property, same as gijoe. I think we got what we should have expected, as far as that goes (not saying it's the direction everyone wanted, but no matter what it would be a low brow production).

 

Oh, I agree, but just because it's "that kind of property" doesn't mean it can't have a well written story. Spider-Man is a kid's property, basically, and it was treated with some depth.

No doubt the transformers film could've had a much better plot, but the spiderman story does seem to have more depth, which would give the writers more to work with.

[pain]

All of the stuff about him being a best buddy of Duke that he has to bail him out of trouble all of the time, is that fact, or just speculations?

 

Second, if it is true, Marlon is going to have a pretty important role in this film, and I just do not think taht he can handle it. It is not that he is not a talented actor, but he is type-cast.

 

Every time I see him in anything, I see him in Don't be a menace to south central while drinking your juice in the hood, and sometimes as shorty from Scary movie.

 

Just can't get over it.

[Glue]

I wouldn't quite say that. Spider-Man is a "kid's property" insofar as all comic books have been regarded as such. However, Spider-Man's primary success came from it's ability to sell itself to teenage males who identified with the character since he was portrayed as suffering from real human problems (to say nothing of being a dorky teen himself). And Spidey was one of the first comic superheroes to do so. So the Spidey movies having a serious story is not all that out-of-character with the essence of the property. Just modernized while still telling the same general story with the same plot elements and aesthetics.

 

Spidey is much unlike other movie adaptations. So far, the live-action GI Joe is sounding much closer to live-action Street Fighter or live-action Garfield than to Spidey.

[ARROW]

All of the stuff about him being a best buddy of Duke that he has to bail him out of trouble all of the time, is that fact, or just speculations?

 

Second, if it is true, Marlon is going to have a pretty important role in this film, and I just do not think taht he can handle it. It is not that he is not a talented actor, but he is type-cast.

 

Its apparently from a script that no longer applies, and a very different draft is now what they are working from.

 

There's reviews out there now claiming that this film's script, in its current incarnation, is "a lover-letter to GIJOE fans".

Take that for what you will....

[Glue]

All of the stuff about him being a best buddy of Duke that he has to bail him out of trouble all of the time, is that fact, or just speculations?

 

Second, if it is true, Marlon is going to have a pretty important role in this film, and I just do not think taht he can handle it. It is not that he is not a talented actor, but he is type-cast.

 

Its apparently from a script that no longer applies, and a very different draft is now what they are working from.

 

There's reviews out there now claiming that this film's script, in its current incarnation, is "a lover-letter to GIJOE fans".

Take that for what you will....

Heh. Interpreting that in the best possible light still produces mixed feelings and reactions from me given the casting. But I suppose that's better than how they've left a lot of the fandom feeling so far.. I shall revive the faintest glimmer of hope that someone amongst the writers and production cares enough to make this movie please the fans as well as attracting non-fan masses.

[Admiral Hunter]

All of the stuff about him being a best buddy of Duke that he has to bail him out of trouble all of the time, is that fact, or just speculations?

 

Second, if it is true, Marlon is going to have a pretty important role in this film, and I just do not think taht he can handle it. It is not that he is not a talented actor, but he is type-cast.

 

Its apparently from a script that no longer applies, and a very different draft is now what they are working from.

 

There's reviews out there now claiming that this film's script, in its current incarnation, is "a lover-letter to GIJOE fans".

Take that for what you will....

Heh. Interpreting that in the best possible light still produces mixed feelings and reactions from me given the casting. But I suppose that's better than how they've left a lot of the fandom feeling so far.. I shall revive the faintest glimmer of hope that someone amongst the writers and production cares enough to make this movie please the fans as well as attracting non-fan masses.

 

Except, as has already been stated, pleasing the "fans" has nothing to do with appealing to the mass audiences... And that SHOULD be their ultimate goal. The bottom line. Profits. Hopefully it works out that way. But, of course, how many writers write "for profit" as opposed to "the love of writing"? (I assume in reality it's for profit, with a public claim of love!)

 

I'm just happy we're getting a movie. And while Street Fighter may "suck" compared to the video game, or animes, it's still Street Fighter. I mean, where else can we get Kylie Monogue (sp?) as Cammy?

 

-Kevin

[DPrime]

Except, as has already been stated, pleasing the "fans" has nothing to do with appealing to the mass audiences... And that SHOULD be their ultimate goal. The bottom line. Profits. Hopefully it works out that way. But, of course, how many writers write "for profit" as opposed to "the love of writing"? (I assume in reality it's for profit, with a public claim of love!)

 

No, it should not. Not to the directors and writers anyway. To the producers, of course, but GOOD artists (and yes, that includes those in Hollywood) would want to create something that stands the test of time. Of course when you're dealing with something that costs as much to make as a Hollywood movie, the backers are going to want to see a profit, so there has to be a middle ground, but the "bottom line" depends on what capacity you're involved with in the film.

 

This is, of course, something of an aside to the topic at hand. To bring up Battlestar Galactica again, the creators DID change a lot of the original concepts to make it more relevant to a more sophisticated, modern audience. Then again, I think the '80s RAH years have a lot more to offer a modern remake than the old Battlestar Galactica television show. I guess that's not saying much for that old sci-fi series, now that I think of it...

[Glue]

Sorry. I'm not happy to get "just" any movie with a brand name slapped on it. That's exactly why I stopped watching Joe in the first place. It stopped being something I wanted to spend time/money on. (And I only really found the cartoon amusing so it's not like fans like me are extraordinarily difficult to please either.)

 

There's no reason why it can't please both fans and masses, if they're even different (which I don't believe but for the sake of argument let's assume so). And when you tell Hasbro and the producers, "Hey, I'm gonna give you my money no matter what crap you churn out," you tell them your interests and concerns don't count, so they only need to please someone else. I don't want to pay a drop of money to watch GI Joe: 90210.