tf toon?..

[synch]

Is this suppose to be linked to g1 at all or more like linked to the movie past ?.. :S

[Mike]

It's kind of it's own alternate universe kind of thing. Obviously the new Animated Transformers have a similar past to G1, the great war, etc, etc, but it's not the exact same G1 story

[khamla]

The scene was created to have an archival feel to the story also added for the fans who remember G1.

[RC_rika]

I'd say it's in the future, but not as far as Beast Wars..

[TRUESTYLE]

wasnt beast wars in the past?? i remember they came across G1's crached ship before they were discovered and megs wanted to take them out before the futer ( them awakaning )

I'd say it's in the future, but not as far as Beast Wars..

[RC_rika]

wasnt beast wars in the past?? i remember they came across G1's crached ship before they were discovered and megs wanted to take them out before the futer ( them awakaning )

I'd say it's in the future, but not as far as Beast Wars..

 

They went into the past, but they were FROM the distaaant future. They found prehistoric earth, remember?

[Doom Saber]

Me thinks that the CN formers cartoon is a new universe, whereas the beginning and comeo appearance of Spike, Daniel, and Carly were homages to G1. I mean, it seems impossible to be the same universe as G1 since none of the humans seen Transformers, despite the appearances of Spike and his family.

[Wheeljack35]

Me thinks that the CN formers cartoon is a new universe, but the beginning and comeo appearance of Spike, Daniel, and Carly were homages to G1. I mean, it seems impossible to be the same universe as G1 since none of the humans seen Transformers, despite the appearances of Spike and his family

 

you are correct sir

 

I don'r get some of these people on this forum

 

If its a G1 continuation then why don't these people know who the autobots are when they first showed up?

[Doom Saber]

Me thinks that the CN formers cartoon is a new universe, but the beginning and comeo appearance of Spike, Daniel, and Carly were homages to G1. I mean, it seems impossible to be the same universe as G1 since none of the humans seen Transformers, despite the appearances of Spike and his family

 

you are correct sir

 

I don'r get some of these people on this forum

 

If its a G1 continuation then why don't these people know who the autobots are when they first showed up?

 

I think some ppl were hopin it was a continuity. However, I think it would be confusing if this was the case, seein how all the transformers (with the exception of Buckhead) have the same names as the g1 characters.

[Mike]

And even Prime pointed out that Ratchet was in those very G1 wars, so it makes no sense there either

[TRUESTYLE]

wasnt beast wars in the past?? i remember they came across G1's crached ship before they were discovered and megs wanted to take them out before the futer ( them awakaning )

I'd say it's in the future, but not as far as Beast Wars..

 

They went into the past, but they were FROM the distaaant future. They found prehistoric earth, remember?

 

hmmmmm, no, i just remember that. but when ravage came back, he said he used to be with the g1 megatron, and the dino megs showed respect...........was that when they went back too?

i bought season 1 and 2 but only watched them once, so i dont remember

[synch]

bw was on earths past & yes that ravage was g1 ravage & atthe end of bw they were camped out in the ark it self & We got to see op & megs to boot

[Doom Saber]

Rika is right. The characters in Beast Wars are descendents of the g1 transformers as in they are from 200 years in the future. However, the Maximals time travelled in the prehistoric past without knowing it. It is a bit confusing since it seems time travel is common in Beast Wars despite the characters not knowing they have done so in season 1; What I mean is that the Ghost of Staarscream can time travel back and forth despite that his spark was fused to make Rampage(it doesn't make sence, but with the use of Time Travel, I am sure they can clear it up if they ever feel like it.)

[Mike]

Rika is right. The characters in Beast Wars are descendents of the g1 transformers as in they are from 200 years in the future. However, the Maximals time travelled in the prehistoric past without knowing it. It is a bit confusing since it seems time travel is common in Beast Wars despite the characters not knowing they have done so in season 1; What I mean is that the Ghost of Staarscream can time travel back and forth despite that his spark was fused to make Rampage(it doesn't make sence, but with the use of Time Travel, I am sure they can clear it up if they ever feel like it.)

 

hmmm possibly! Time travel sure can mess things up. and end up running through the same 4 million years, but alternate outcomes.

 

Like Back to the Future did. Go back in time, accidently alter the space time continuum so that the whole original G1 war and beast wars did take place and was recorded, but was re-written by other autobots and decepticon wars.. maybe.. somehow lol

[Straight Edge]

Rika is right. The characters in Beast Wars are descendents of the g1 transformers as in they are from 200 years in the future. However, the Maximals time travelled in the prehistoric past without knowing it. It is a bit confusing since it seems time travel is common in Beast Wars despite the characters not knowing they have done so in season 1

 

Untrue, in the premiere episode, the Maximals know they locked onto the Predacon ship's Transwarp signature and pursued them through time. The problem was, they had no way of knowing *where or when* they were, because those coordinates were plotted by the Predacon ship.

 

On the other hand, the Predacons knew when and where they inteded to go, but when they got there, the planet looked so different than they expected it to, they assumed the ship miscalcuated and got them lost. It wasn't until season 2 that the Alien devices, the excess energon, and the second moon were destroyed that they were able to say, for sure, they were on Earth.

 

What I mean is that the Ghost of Staarscream can time travel back and forth despite that his spark was fused to make Rampage(it doesn't make sence, but with the use of Time Travel, I am sure they can clear it up if they ever feel like it.)

 

Starscream's spark was not used to create Rampage. Protoform X was an attempt to *duplicate* Starscream's spark (which was immortal). Doesnt mean he was there. That said, Starscream being able to travel thru time doesn't conflict with him being present in the Maximal/Predacon era (300+ years after the Great War)

 

- 2005: Starscream is killed by Galvatron. His "ghost", or spark, is left free-floating through the Universe.

- 2006: Starscream discovers the ability to travel thru time, and arrives on Prehistoric Earth, possessing Waspinator and trying to take over the Predacons.

- 2007: Starscream returns to his own time, aids Unicron in his attempted return, and is given a new body. He's blasted out of Cybertronian airspace at the end of the episode.

 

Beast Wars are descendents of the g1 transformers as in they are from 200 years in the future.

 

According to Blackarachnia, the "Great Wars" ended 300 years ago, and accoding to Rodimus Prime, the Great Wars ended in 2005, at the close of The Movie. When you look back at Season 3, the Decepticons were really not a big threat, and the Autobots moved on to more important things. It was definitely a Post-War animosity, and not the kind of intense fighting we'd seen in the Movie.

 

That said, the concept of 300 years has always been a point of contention. Specifically, why would Blackarachnia be speaking of time in Earth Years, especially at a time when the Predacons did not know they were on Earth. It makes much more sense that she'd be speaking in Cybertronian years (called Vorns in the comics, and I beleive in the recent movie). So if she's speaking in Cybertonian time-reckoning, 300 years could easily be thousands or millions of Earth years. Even by the old comic definition of a vorn, 300 revolutions of Cybertron around it's sun would take 24,900 Earth years.

 

So trying to nail it down is, to a large extent, an excerise in futility. The Maximals and Predacons come from a distant future, long after the end of the Great Wars (G1). They then travel to the past (somewhere between 4 million and 40,000 years ago, tho considering the evolution of prehistoric humanoids, probably closer to 2 million years ago).

 

And none of this has anything to do with Animated.

[Rodimus Primal]

Animated merely used G1 footage to reckon back to the Great War of Animateds past. I'm glad they used it but it of coarse confused a lot of you guys. It's a seperate continuity. We all know Beast Wars is the far future stories of G1. I myself merge the AEC continuity after G1 since the ending of Cybertron is truly the end of the Great War in my book.