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I buy myself a set and I promised my son a set so if I found 2 you better believe I would buy both. If someone else got there first and had one or both oh well better luck next time. I wouldn't make an idiot out of myself and try to get one besides for all he knows your the scalper. Because of this post If someone came up and asked if I needed both I would state naw but my ebay account does and stroll off. @firedevil@

 

 

Well in that scenario you would be acting like a you know where this comment could go. Buy the son a set yeah right! That's as believable as the old "this money's going in you college fund give me a break" Now if your were talking about BEN-10 or Nintendo DS games, I might believe you, but I haven't seen the average kid interested in GI Joe for years (there's always exceptions).

 

I guess I just had the idea that the toy aisle was one big joe con, almost like a brotherhood, and if you can spot a fan, make a friend kind of deal, he missed out on future trades, another local collector, all because he was in a big hurry to take 'em both and get the eff outta there before his conscience set in. MAybe I should have said the but it's for my kid line you like to use. But it'd be hard for my son tolet go of the death grip on his power rangers and legos.

 

 

So know your calling me a liar, No offense but I don't need your brotherhood. My son has been collecting GI Joe on and off through Spy Troops and VVV and he has lots of old vehicles and figures I gave him. He has bought both 5 packs with his own money and has most of wave one. I guess if your 13 year old has a death grip on PR and lego then maybe you should be more worried about getting him out of diapers then who got the last 5 pack.

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BTW, on the bright side, a couple more stores, a lot more phone calls, and I did manage to find a helpful Target employee, After an "accidental" phone disconnect he located two legions packs in the back room, I had him hold one for me, and when I went to pick it up, I walked away with.......1 of the 5 packs. But if I did buy both it wouldn't matter, because there was no collector in the aisle with me, asking me if he could get one. Which is my entire point. I would wipe the store out of cases of joes. But if there's a Joe fan in the same GD aisle worth me, I wouldn't turn into a feral wildebeest and hoard my stash like winter's coming. I'd invite him to look through them with me, and wax nostalgic about classic character while we happily split the case.

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On my way home from work I get this strange urge to go into Target, I had a feeling they had the legion 5 pack in. So I barrel on down to the toy aisle, and see this dude walking out of the aisle with BOTH legion packs. I missed grabbing one by literally 20 seconds! So I ask the guy " Hey Did you grab the last two?" He's all like YEAH in a what are you gonna do about it kind of voice. So I say, do you really need BOTH of them? And he puts his head down and scurries off to ebay. What a douch. I KNOW he's keeping on to himself and throwing the other one on Ebay! Man that pissed me off.

 

When the orginal 5 packs 1st came out, I spotted two of the Cobra Packs at a TRU, I only took ONE. Because that's all I needed, and Tazzzman or some other fan might breeze through and I made his day.

 

If there was a fellow Joe fan in the aisle and I was holding two of the exact same 5 pack on the 1st day they were put out, I totally would have handed one over. No problem, I'd be more than happy to make day!!

 

I hope karma really exists, because that was greedy as SH>> Whatta A---hole.

 

Damn, I hear ya. I was at a Target today and found the new gi joe 5 pack (that has gung ho at the bottom dodging a grenade lol), so I know that they had them since this was the new pack, but nothing else was on the shelf. Thanks for being out there for the collectors as we know out there are not......what I think that we need to do is exchange phone numbers so I can hit you up if I see anything and vice versa, because we might have the right idea, but there are several others that do not care one thing about GI JOE or if they do they are greedy or want to make a buck.

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I think the title of "GREEDY M'er F'er" tells a lot. When the M'er F'er term comes into play regarding toys, some priorities in life need to be checked.

 

By the way GG Pike, I'm one of the most affable, easygoing guys around, I didn't raise my voice, get in his face or try to intimidate him in any way, shape, or form. He was an Asian guy around my age, 25 to 30, roughly the same size and build as me if not bigger. I'm just not used to seeing such public displays of greed and the way he spoke to me almost had a vindictive you got punked vibe to them. I'm just frustrated and shocked how a "collector would treat another that way. I guess I'm spoiled by my TNI brothers, who have been nothing but intelligent and helpful over the year. I always heard stories about those kind of greedy collectors, but have never had an encounter with one.

 

 

From what you said, I thought that you were the one talking in an inappropriate manner. But if you weren't, and he was, then that is a different story. I still don't think it's something to get worked up over, but that's just me. I've seen the scalpers in the stores, and that's why I get what I can, when I can. If you haven't had the "pleasure" of dealing with them, you're lucky. Yes there are collectors I deal with, and we help each other out when we can. Exceptions to the rule in the store are a mom or dad with their son, or a fellow collector that I know. Parents without their kids are iffy, I just have to make a judgment call on that. I've known a lot of people to use the "I'm getting one for my son" excuse.

 

Like I said before, I would probably have a negative reaction if someone said something to me in a store about what I was buying. Not saying he is in the right in whatever he said, but know that though you might be an affable guy, you're most likely not going to get a positive reaction from people when you question what they're doing. Not to say you're wrong in doing it, but that a lot of people including myself get a little weirded out by that.

 

Also, I'm spending my money / time / gas on finding these things, and when I can get what I need and be done with it, I'm going to do it.

 

I don't think any of us are mean, or are trying to be mean, it's just that we're jaded, we deal with scalpers a lot, and it's pretty much every man for themselves when not dealing with collectors you know or the occasional parent with their kid. It's nothing against you at all.

 

Besides, how could I not like someone that's friends with Tazz?!

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Buying a few is alright, one to open and one to keep in the box, or to trade with buddies or hooking them up. But "army building", that's stupid, are your toys going off to war or something?

 

LOL boy are u in the wrong forum...WTF is the point of having 1 Viper anyway? What is that Viper gonna do? As a kid I never got to army build. I always watched the cartoon and there would be hundreds of Vipers going off to battle and I wanted to mimic that but I could never convince my parents that I needed more than 1 of a given figure. Now as an adult I can army build as I please. Why collect military based toys without building an army?

 

As far as the original post, I see your point Ren but like others have said u don't know what his plans were. Maybe he was buying it for his friend, in which case he'd definitely feel more brotherhood to his friend over it than u. Maybe it was for his kid...my son is 3 and is fascinated w/GI Joe bc I am a collector. I haven't gotten him any bc he'd tear the o rings to pieces but he'll get some sooner than later. I bet he'll love GI Joe especially when he sees my entire army and we get to bond over it.

 

I guess if I had 2 5 packs and I promissed a friend one and u came up to me I might say something like "Sorry man, I promissed this to someone." But then u'd probably just think I was lying anyway and I wouldn't really owe u an explanation in the 1st place. It would probably depend a lot on how I was asked to. If someone came up to me w/an attitude I wouldn't give them sh*t. How did u approach him? U obviously have a negative attitude towards him now. Do u think its possible any of that came out when u asked him?

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Buying a few is alright, one to open and one to keep in the box, or to trade with buddies or hooking them up. But "army building", that's stupid, are your toys going off to war or something?

 

Funny thing is I have no problem with army building and instead think buying one to open and one to keep MOC is silly. Action figure collecting attracts all kinds. We should respect each other's differences.

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Yep, as ridiculous as asking someone why you need two cans of spaghetti sauce or two packages of hotdogs. Whose freaking business is it WHY you buy something, right??

 

Only with toys though.........

 

<sigh>

 

Well, to play Devil's Advocate (and to goad you a bit @smilepunch@ ) - I've yet to frequent a spaghetti sauce or hotdog forum. Its like apples and oranges or.. well spaghetti and action figures.

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I guess I just had the idea that the toy aisle was one big joe con, almost like a brotherhood, and if you can spot a fan, make a friend kind of deal, he missed out on future trades, another local collector, all because he was in a big hurry to take 'em both and get the eff outta there before his conscience set in. MAybe I should have said the but it's for my kid line you like to use. But it'd be hard for my son tolet go of the death grip on his power rangers and legos.

 

It really is a wonderful notion to carry, really a good thing to have in one's heart.

 

But I know of no-one else that shops for ANY other kind of product in that same frame of mind--and brutha, I've been shopping for a lotta years now.

I just do not shop with a conscience because consumption is a selfish act. Any act of purchase is ( theoretically) an act of denying that item bought from another person--even if you buy just one.

 

Even in these forums, a collector will serve themselves first, and then others after--if they serve them at all.

In a practical world, a sensible person does not behave like this in a malicious way, they do it unconsciously.

 

I mean, every time someone is the first to annouce they found something in these forums, wouldn't it be awkard if a whole bunch of strangers asked " well.........did you find one for ME"?

 

I think in this kind of thing, follow your own conscience but do not disparage others for theirs. We all collect for our own reasons and in our own way. Not everyone is going to be charitable--that's just the reality of it.

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Although, my sibling and I collect joes, we share them. So, we basically have one figure for the both of us. If I buy doubles or repaints, my brother will get a bit peeved. This doesn't apply to army builders. However, I assume this is uncommon and with that said, who knows if the collector in the first post was buyin a 2nd set for his friend, son, or brother?

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Either way, Ren accidently shot himself/herself in the foot by language used, and posted in the heat of the moment... We've all been there. I don't know how many times someone posted on Joesightings they found something in my area, then I rush to the store only to find it all gone. :( That angers me. (You wouldn't like me when I'm angry.)

 

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I understand exactly what Ren is saying. If I was grabbing a bunch of something and somebody asked me if they could have some, I would definitely at least take the time to discuss it with them. If it was something I really wanted, I would apologize and tell them that I needed it all (if I actually did). If it was something that I wasn't wanting terribly bad, I would part with some of it.

 

either way, the fact that nother fan wanted some would cause me to think... and to chat with them, maybe even offer help on scoring some more.

 

 

However, Ren (and others), you have to understan that not everbody buying multiples is doing so with poor intentions. I don't sell anything I get, but I do buy multiples. I bought two of those cobra2 sets actually @lol@ but I think i will give up one to my brother because I don't want two sets that much.

 

 

 

besides the point... these 5 packs aren't even hard to get, or worth scalping. They are all over here.

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I guess I just had the idea that the toy aisle was one big joe con, almost like a brotherhood, and if you can spot a fan, make a friend kind of deal, he missed out on future trades, another local collector, all because he was in a big hurry to take 'em both and get the eff outta there before his conscience set in. MAybe I should have said the but it's for my kid line you like to use. But it'd be hard for my son tolet go of the death grip on his power rangers and legos.

 

It really is a wonderful notion to carry, really a good thing to have in one's heart.

 

But I know of no-one else that shops for ANY other kind of product in that same frame of mind--and brutha, I've been shopping for a lotta years now.

I just do not shop with a conscience because consumption is a selfish act. Any act of purchase is ( theoretically) an act of denying that item bought from another person--even if you buy just one.

 

Even in these forums, a collector will serve themselves first, and then others after--if they serve them at all.

In a practical world, a sensible person does not behave like this in a malicious way, they do it unconsciously.

 

I mean, every time someone is the first to annouce they found something in these forums, wouldn't it be awkard if a whole bunch of strangers asked " well.........did you find one for ME"?

 

I think in this kind of thing, follow your own conscience but do not disparage others for theirs. We all collect for our own reasons and in our own way. Not everyone is going to be charitable--that's just the reality of it.

 

 

A good example is ebay. Has anyone EVER come here, for example (or some other forum) and said, "hey, I found a cheap auction for a Terror Drome. Go bid on it with me!"

 

Hell no! You bid and if you win, you come and say "look at how good a deal I got on this Terror Drome!"

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man i wish i lived around you guys i havent seen 1 of the legions pack if and when i do i would love to get a couple but wont because i cant justify 25-30 for 3 army builders plus we will see these agin in single card so ill only get 1

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clam is right. the 5 sets are easy to find, though they are in a different type of bubble, which makes it easier to remove(the weapons are now on the figures.)

 

 

they are right, 5 packs are very easy to get!!!

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I'll admit it sucks, but I have to say that I'd probably buy both without a sweat too. If it's something I'm looking for... forget it. And it was only 2 packs. Had it been like 6, then that's a bit different.

 

I were approached by a nice kid or something, I'd likely share. I ran into another "famous" collector in my area a couple of years back at TRU. The greenshirt 6 pack just dropped and he was nice enough to offer one of the few he had in his hand. That's good sportsmanship.

 

My logic for this... I've been approached many times about my 7 Hiss 2bs... I won't part with them for just anyone.

 

Hmm... not even Khyron? ;) Wow, 7 huh? I wouldn't mind having one. I'll take a number if you ever change your mind.

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man i had the same thing happen with wave 2 when it hit in my area. i spent all morning looking for them. the guy took all 2cases that were there. i relay hate scalpers they suck. the last store i hit at 10 am was TRUs .

There was 5 guys there that were talking about what they were there to buy and how much they were going to get on ebay for them.

 

Ohhh man that is BAD, these are very bad men, exactly why I boycott EBAY when it comes to figures that are supposed to be on store shelves new. That is so lame.

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I understand exactly what Ren is saying. If I was grabbing a bunch of something and somebody asked me if they could have some, I would definitely at least take the time to discuss it with them. If it was something I really wanted, I would apologize and tell them that I needed it all (if I actually did). If it was something that I wasn't wanting terribly bad, I would part with some of it.

 

either way, the fact that nother fan wanted some would cause me to think... and to chat with them, maybe even offer help on scoring some more.

 

 

However, Ren (and others), you have to understan that not everbody buying multiples is doing so with poor intentions. I don't sell anything I get, but I do buy multiples. I bought two of those cobra2 sets actually @lol@ but I think i will give up one to my brother because I don't want two sets that much. besides the point... these 5 packs aren't even hard to get, or worth scalping. They are all over here.

 

 

 

Thanks Clam and everybody.. I guess I didn't explain the situation correctly, by the time I got home I was frustrated and jmubled my point a bit. I never have a problem with anybody buying mupltiples of anything, never have cared, and never will. It just the snapping both up right in front of my face that threw me for a loop. It's not the army builder's fault the shelves are bare, it's the toy company's fault for not anticipating the demand for army builders.

 

I have just never encountered this situation before, and I thought it was a lame toy/power grab for the other guy to pull on me, so I was taken aback. I've seen this plenty of times with the hot wheel collectors and flea markets, dudes fighting over the lamest junk. Why prople pull this stuff I don't know, I was just frustrated and need TNI to throw their 2 cents in and collectively blow off steam. #US1#

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Cut the guy some slack Ren! Everybody knows that Army Builders and Ebay Scalpers have never seen a woman naked, so they need 50 Crimson Guards and Clone Shocktroopers to keep them company in their basements while they watch Firefly and read their Witchblade comics. I saw this disgusting tub at Walmart yesterday with an armfull of Storm Shadows scurrying towards the checkout, his forehead damp with perspiraton from extreme inactivity. He fit the "comic book guy" profile exactly. Watch some of the vids on Youtube of army builders and mass collectors, some of them are members here. You'll know them when you see them.

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Yeah, it sucks when somebody beats you to something you're looking for. I feel your need to vent, which you have every right to do. However, the guy had every right to buy both those sets and not give anything to you. It is his money and his time. It is a free country. As others have said, we really don't know what he was going to do with those sets. He might be an army builder. I don't do it, but plenty do, and they can collect however they want even though it could be said they are depriving others of figures just as much as a scalper. He might be opening one and keeping one sealed. He might be buying the extra for a buddy or to trade. Those are all valid reasons IMO. He might be buying both to put on ebay, which would make him a weasel, but, really, is he going to make that much money off those sets after factoring time and money spent on gas? From what I have seen on ebay there are not really high markups for the Legion 5 pack. They might be making $20 per set. Whoooo hoooh!!! (sarcasm) That will pay for the gas they used to drive around. And maybe it will give them enough money to get a woman to touch them or at least to look at them without disgust. Army builders/hoarders, scalpers and other collectors are a part of a challenge. It can be a competition if you have any of those searching the same stores you are. You just have to get a little lucky and beat them to it.

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Cut the guy some slack Ren! Everybody knows that Army Builders and Ebay Scalpers have never seen a woman naked, so they need 50 Crimson Guards and Clone Shocktroopers to keep them company in their basements while they watch Firefly and read their Witchblade comics. I saw this disgusting tub at Walmart yesterday with an armfull of Storm Shadows scurrying towards the checkout, his forehead damp with perspiraton from extreme inactivity. He fit the "comic book guy" profile exactly. Watch some of the vids on Youtube of army builders and mass collectors, some of them are members here. You'll know them when you see them.

 

Yes, all of us that army build are just like that :rolleyes: I'm just amazed at the utter ignorance of people on here sometimes. There are most likely some people life that, yes . . . but have you ever been to a Joe Con? The majority of the people I met, many who are army builders, are regular guys, husbands, college grads, many were in fraternities (as was I), don't smell bad, own their own homes, hold solid jobs, and are otherwise decent individuals.

 

Please don't comment on things you know nothing about. Thanks, 'preciate it.

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