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[Wheeljack35]

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[obiprime]

Yes its sad, Its no longer Gijoe The Real American Hero. In the Eyes of the World, Americans are not seen as "hero's" So a global attempt makes the Franchise palatable to the world. If it means more money for better sequels, then Im all for it. Im sure Heroism will still be a part of the Movie. Dont Blame hasbro, They are right. The world would shun "the real american Hero" movie, because of IRAQ. However A global attempt makes it contemporary and more readily acceptable to a global audience. Blame the war on terror for this change. I for one wont let this detail derail me from enjoying the movie. Im sure there will be bigger issues later on.

[Wheeljack35]

Well look at it this way GI Joe has expanded to include other countries so we don't allways have to flip the bill

[Rama Sha]

They fight COBRA.

 

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[Viper Hunter]

I'm a lot of things BEFORE I'm A G.I.Joe fan, and I'd have to put "proud to be an American" way up there.

 

I won't hide or sacrafice that for some movies potential to foster MORE toys!

 

Sorry, there's just something really really really WRONG in that kind of thinking.

[Wheeljack35]

I had a feeling GI Joe would be effected also like they did when they gave the transformers the General Grevious look

[DPrime]

I had a feeling GI Joe would be effected also like they did when they gave the transformers the General Grevious look

 

Well, I hope they don't go TOO far. I think the acronym is pretty lame... lame in a way that's meant to be "cool", if you know what I mean. It's wholy unnecessary, but whatever... If we see character designs that are as different from RAH as the TF movie designs were as different from G1, THEN I'll have a big problem with this movie. I absolutely hated those designs... I wouldn't even say they looked like General Grievous... More like Johnny 5!!! Lame.

[Kenny28]

I'm not big on the name but the concept makes sense considering how diverse the Joes already were to begin with.

[Viper Hunter]

[Jogen]

Only 1 thing to say....BULLSHIT....how can u do this to Gijoe. DAMN YOU TO HELL SOMMERS!!!!!!

[Rama Sha]

I doubt it was Sommer that caused this, this was proably already decided when he signed on. You wanna point the finger at someone, point at the producers.

[PrometheusX]

So this GIjoe is also based in Belgium? This is a UN backed Terror "fighting" team and will probably make Street Fighter look good.

[Rodimus Primal]

So this GIjoe is also based in Belgium? This is a UN backed Terror "fighting" team and will probably make Street Fighter look good.

 

I agree, Street Fighter was already an international team. Even with that Guile had his USA flag on his arm.

 

I think this concept sucks personally. It makes me feel like they are purposefully making Americans feel bad to be....American.

[Viper Hunter]

Hollywood and Corporate America.....not much difference is there?

 

Liberal, union supporting, Hollywood blast the big U.S. Corporations for "outsourcing" and not supporting fellow Americans, when the big Corporations claim they can make more profit off (the manufacturing of) a "product" if it's done by non-Americans, and yet they still want/expect us to BUY it afterwards, to fatten their wallets even further? Hardly much difference in what Hollywood is wanting to do with G.I.Joe here, is there?

 

How about if all our job creating big corporations moved their operations overseas, citing they can make a bigger profit and besides, America is so hated right now, they're afraid NOBODY will buy American made products anymore? Hey...good business sense, right? It's all about the money...America be damned

[genhawk]

It's sad that people would want us to be ashamed for us to be Americans. i remember i couldnt wait for transformers to be successful so that they would make a Gi Joe movie, now if hasbro doesnt respond to the fans and leave things as they are reported I cant see myself enjoying or even seeing this movie. Like many people have said I am an American before im a Gi Joe fan.

[genhawk]

It's sad that people would want us to be ashamed for us to be Americans. i remember i couldnt wait for transformers to be successful so that they would make a Gi Joe movie, now if hasbro doesnt respond to the fans and leave things as they are reported I cant see myself enjoying or even seeing this movie. Like many people have said I am an American before im a Gi Joe fan.

[Kenny28]

Y'know what would've been a not-so-bad idea?

 

Why not do a G.I. Joe/Action Force sorta thing instead of a dumb Duke/Action Man buddy film? Kick some Cobra/Red Shadows/Nazi ass instead of "cool guy" or whatever....

[xhairs]

I'm a lot of things BEFORE I'm A G.I.Joe fan, and I'd have to put "proud to be an American" way up there.

 

I won't hide or sacrafice that for some movies potential to foster MORE toys!

 

Sorry, there's just something really really really WRONG in that kind of thinking.

 

man im with ya on that and this movie is going to blow a big fat one. #US1#

[jamarmiller]

well I cant deny I think the thing is cool. but at the same time YES GI JOE IS AMERICAN!

 

I love ACTION MAN and I LOVE ACTION FORCE though and this is almost a blend.

 

 

I do wish we had two seperate Orginazations though

 

GI JOE which should be exclusively AMERICAN and then a ACTION FORCE which should be an international force.

 

Sadly the latter doesnt have the recognition and probally would fail, even with ACTION MAN

 

I do hope ACTION MAN is in the movie as that is one franchise that really needs a boost

 

but I really also hope that they dont take known american characters and make them foreign too

 

Seeing ROADBLOCK being from Jamacia or something would be just wrong

 

Snakes as an Asian?? wrong too

 

in either case I am sure this movie will be very good

 

Hasbro knows what a good movie ( TFs ) will do for the line and future movies, they wont risk a bad movie being made IMVHO

[Viper Hunter]

I don't think think they're looking to change the actual birthplace of any of the G.I.Joe's or they're nationality (although I could still be wrong?). What I'm getting out of it, is that they're just wanting to have them based out of somewhere other than the United States, or non related to anything to do with the American Government and instead....just have the same group (still FROM America) that have joined an international organization that fights Cobra.....the evil "global" terrorist organization. They'll be like conscientious objectors to American politics, but STILL wanting to fight the good cause against global terrorism, just NOT in the name of AMERICA!

 

It's pretty much typical liberal Hollyweirds way of making more political commentary on the world today (America today) and propagating the idea that America's always trying to "police" the world and we're wrong for it, just like we are flawed in our current efforts to fight terrorism, and are NOW practically being blamed for inciting it, to even WORSE levels, and doing so AGAINST worldwide popular opinion, WITHOUT international support on a majority level.

 

This is the reason for them trying to run with our ARAH G.I.Joe story and make it PC.

 

 

Either way, it stinks! It's letting REAL politics affect a fantasy story about "hero-like" Americans, that fight for freedom wherever there's trouble, against villains (of which the leader is also from America) of Cobra, and working hard, and selflessly, to prevent an evil CROOK from America, from hurting all of humankind on Earth. They're taking responsibility for one of their own, that's organized such an evil force to be reckoned with, that's threatening the entire WORLD and going after him and his colleagues.

 

Seems there's another message...a more POSITIVE one, in this story that would benefit Americans right now, in showing what we're REALLY made of, even if it's just fantasy and fiction, instead of going with the negative outlook AGAINST us and changing that aspect to suit foreign moviegoer's who might despise such a notion of the typical American citizens integrity and goodness to defend ALL of the human race.

 

I'd like to see a story about A REAL MUSLIM HERO in which Muslims in the Middel East ban together to fight the evil terrorist group Al-Queda led by the evil Osama Bin Laden and his international band of evil doer's. They fight against him, wherever there's trouble, and help to protect all the WORLD and it's citizens, regardless of race, color or religion. They show up just in time to thwart another Sept. 11th type attack, practically before we even know it's coming and save the day for us against one of their OWN, that's gone sour and corrupt.......kinda like what G.I.joe does against Cobra Commander aye?

 

Seems a better message could come out of this movie than the one they're hiding from.....but that's hollyweird for ya?

[MaceWinduPreview]

GI JOE BEING ANYTHING BUT AN AMERICAN GROUP OF HEROS IS

 

CRAP !!

[CapnJeffro]

I'm sure I will hear no end to this, which is mostly why I haven't said much on the affair of the movie and what not, but carrying on. I'm happy there will be a GI Joe movie - just as I was happy for a Transformers movie (which, in my opinion, was very well done and very much entertained me) and I was always a much bigger Joe fan.

 

I also know being a big comic fan that anything live action in the theater won't be nearly the same as in the four-colored pages or the animated small screen that I grew up with. As long as they stick to the characters I love and grew up with, and of course will most likely have slight costume variations and whatever is necessary to make it not look ridiculously over the top, I will consider myself a happy camper.

 

I understand the crux of the majority's argument about the Brussels based group, but I don't find myself being overly offended, disgusted, hurt, baffled, or otherwise finding myself in a fury. That is just me personally. I go to the movies to alleviate the stress of everyday life, politics, and the usual rigmarole of every day life - I like to leave it at the door and just relax and enjoy.

 

If it stays relatively close in origin, with characters mostly recognizable due to appearance and action, and other nifty little tid-bits and Easter Eggs (I love me some Easter Eggs in movies like these) I can forgive discrepancies.

 

Plus, I can't get really steamed till there is definite and concrete word on the direction is is truly taken and the idea they are trying to portray. Here's hoping its a huge hit and not a gigantic flop.

[PhoenixSword]

wait... anyone notice that it says cobra is headed by a scottish arms dealer....i guess the joes aren't the only ones getting screwed over. so no cobra commander either? i'm thinking i'm going to be refusing to go see this movie... watch shia leboeff(or w/e) sign up to be in this movie too just to try and ruin EVERY thing that i ever enjoyed about watching movies...

[Viper Hunter]

Good points Capn', but I still don't want to be the one that has to leave politics (and the REAL world) at the door, so I can be entertained by Hollywood. I want Hollywood to leave politcs at the door, in order to entertain ME...the buying customer.

 

This isn't talking about real world politics either, as Hollywood is always all over THAT. This is with regards to something as innocent and FUN as a story about America's fighting man..G.I.Joe and the team that sprung up late called A Real American Hero, and it's something that shouldn't be politicized or changed due to Hollywoods perception that Americans are globally despised.

 

I'm not that desperate to have a G.I.joe movie anyway, fearing the damage to the brand name, if it's campy, cheesy and stupid, like Street Fighter, Mortal Kombat or Starship Troopers, and I'm equally as undesperate enough to want it, in ANY stye or manner they decide upon, just so I can see Duke and Destro on the big screen in live action glory, nor for any excuse that such a movie (if done right) will expand the popualrity of G.I.Joe and therefore justify them making more toys (movie versions) for us desperate toy collectors.

 

If this movie should be a hit, look at how G.I.Joe ARAH will be thought as or known forever more? G.I.joe isn't even what G.I.Joe stands for, and ARAH is null & void.

 

That's a big sacrifice just to get a live action movie after all these years ain't it?

[CapnJeffro]

Good points Capn', but I still don't want to be the one that has to leave politics (and the REAL world) at the door, so I can be entertained by Hollywood. I want Hollywood to leave politcs at the door, in order to entertain ME...the buying customer.

I suppose thats were we differ, VH, which is a good thing - every argument needs two sides. I find myself to be an overwhelmingly apathetic person on many issues, I rarely stress about things I cannot with a shadow of a doubt control. I read comics, watch cartoons, and go see movies based on said properties to watch an idealized world were good and evil are easily defined and recognized. In my own regards I live all that depressing real world stuff at the door to watch over the top Good guys lay a giant sized smack down - be they based in the Pit in a Mid-Western Desert or world hoping in.. Brussels (which I scratch my head over.. at least pick somewhere else a bit more high profile, unless that IS the point.

 

This isn't talking about real world politics either, as Hollywood is always all over THAT. This is with regards to something as innocent and FUN as a story about America's fighting man..G.I.Joe and the team that sprung up late called A Real American Hero, and it's something that shouldn't be politicized or changed due to Hollywoods perception that Americans are globally despised.

 

Sure, but things get changed - no matter high minor or iconic. These aren't movies made for just us the fans - these are made to be recognizable and marketable. X-Men in black leather costumes, Micheal Clark Duncan as Kingpin, Bumblebee is mute, Doctor Doom has actual cosmic based powers, etc.. I don't necessarily like the changes - but I liked enough of the rest of the movie to not be stuck on important details that were skewed to make it work.

 

I'm not that desperate to have a G.I.joe movie anyway, fearing the damage to the brand name, if it's campy, cheesy and stupid, like Street Fighter, Mortal Kombat or Starship Troopers, and I'm equally as undesperate enough to want it, in ANY stye or manner they decide upon, just so I can see Duke and Destro on the big screen in live action glory, nor for any excuse that such a movie (if done right) will expand the popualrity of G.I.Joe and therefore justify them making more toys (movie versions) for us desperate toy collectors.

 

I liked Starship Troopers and the first Mortal Kombat @smilepunch@ - but each there own. And alot of effort was put into Transformers, I don't see Hasbro and the filming company penny-pinching on another favorite and beloved 80's cartoon property. So many good movies have been made about comics, video games, and now toys to allow the Street Fighters and MKII to happen again. And just keep Uwe Boll away.

 

If this movie should be a hit, look at how G.I.Joe ARAH will be thought as or known forever more? G.I.joe isn't even what G.I.Joe stands for, and ARAH is null & void.

 

That's a big sacrifice just to get a live action movie after all these years ain't it?

 

I don't see it as a sacrifice, but then again I think that is the main differences in our opinion. I would rather a movie change a few things and GI Joe gets popular again than allow it to die. You say tomato - I say small sacrifice. I know I'm, for the most part, alone in my opinion, but I don't think it makes me any less of a proud American or a Joe fan. #US1#