Stephen Sommers Back On GIJoe

[MaceWinduPreview]

Anyone who wonders why Viper Hunter and I feel the way we do, I refer you to the name of the forum we are in...

 

 

G.I. Joe A Real American Hero

[Viper Hunter]

I say remove all the political bs from it and just let GI Joe be GI Joe and Cobra be Cobra. Who cares what countries they are from. You guys always seem to take all the fun out of it with this kind of crap.

 

Tell that to the people wanting to make the movie of it. They're the ones that have made it all political by bringing up how un marketable American made products are, even American made G.I.Joes apparently, and how are unpopular standing in the global community has forced their hands in making G.I.Joe something other than anything remotely CLOSE to being G.I.Joe, excpet for the fact that some guy named DUKE will be in it, and he's after some guy named Destro.

 

whoopty friggin snot!

 

The politcal issue was made by the alleged (for the 2nd time) producers of the movie, the backlash was almost certian to happen, and I'm leading the charge. It sucks that they're doing it like this, and it's not the attempt at adding "international flavor" that some would accuse me of (to make light of my contention as being anti-everyothercountryintheworld or something) it's the REMOVAL of G.I.Joes nationality that's firing me up.

 

Who the hells been all that desperate and excited to see a live action cheese fest movie made of G.I.Joe anyway, and now everyone's acting like this is "AWESOME, ABOUT TIME" not ARAH or G.I.JOE (as we know it) anymore...who CARES, we just need a movie period in any shape or form because it's essential to the future of our TOYS!" Yipieeee!

[Viper Hunter]

Anyone who wonders why Viper Hunter and I feel the way we do, I refer you to the name of the forum we are in...

 

 

G.I. Joe A Real American Hero

 

 

No joke! To easy ain't it? @lol@

 

Might have to change the title of the forum before long though, as once Hollywood sets the new precedent for what G.I.Joe REALLY is (we've been disillusioned all these years) it won't be PC any longer and we'll have to bend to the whims of those that know G.I.Joe as the "Global Integrated Joint Operating Entity"

and an INTERNATIONAL team that's not so much connected to America, the terrorist fighting bullies and losers in the world, save for the few intelligent soldiers who (like Mercer leaving Cobra) wised up and jump over to the UN forces.

 

 

 

Viper Hunter you can come over my house and have a cold beer anytime, brother. You speak the truth.God bless G.I.Joe a real AMERICAN hero!!!!!

 

 

Welllllll..thank ya kind sir and welcome! #US1#

[JayC]

Do you think maybe I could have been referring to those "others" as the folks who would not LIKE a G.I.Joe ARAH movie because they don't like AMERICA and it's population of Americans? Why should they (or we) worry about what haters think...for the sake of our GREED?

 

Oooh... I'm SO sorry for misunderstanding. So your saying those "other" people outside of the United States (non-Americans), opinions don't matter if it contradicts what YOU (being a true American of course) think and want?? And of course it's evil of those Hollywood business types to want to make a profit from the movies they spend money on to make (which in today's market means a movie has to be succesfull on the global market, not just the United States)????

[Viper Hunter]

Do you think maybe I could have been referring to those "others" as the folks who would not LIKE a G.I.Joe ARAH movie because they don't like AMERICA and it's population of Americans? Why should they (or we) worry about what haters think...for the sake of our GREED?

 

Oooh... I'm SO sorry for misunderstanding. So your saying those "other" people outside of the United States (non-Americans), opinions don't matter if it contradicts what YOU (being a true American of course) think and want?? And of course it's evil of those Hollywood business types to want to make a profit from the movies they spend money on to make (which in today's market means a movie has to be succesfull on the global market, not just the United States)????

 

First..I guess you'd have to feel the same way as I do on the matter, and clearly you don't, you don't even see it as issue at all...or maybe not yet?

 

Now trying to slight and ridicule me into being the one that's out of line here, by making claims that I'm the one who is insulting to all non-Americans about this somehow, like I'm AGAINST an International effort on the Joe team, is a ridiculously cheap tactic, but I'm going to take odds on the fact that everybody see's thru it and recognizes it as so, just as much as I do?

 

You don't bat an eye at the insulting nature behind what these directors are proposing that they HAVE to do in taking this movie AWAY from the American based connection, because they feel that would not go over well with people outside the US, but by God if I even somewhat appear to be insulting those "other" people they're catering to, (which I'm not) you're all over it with the defensive attitude.

 

Where's your priorities man? I'm not bashing other countries here, I'm angry because it appears as though their bashing of us is going to ruin G.I.Joe. Hollywood wants to take our iconic G.I.JOE and the ARAH story and discombobulate it into something other than what it is, so as not to offend those haters and cash in on their movie ticket purchases for something we really NEED for ourselves right now, and you think that's okay and smart business?

 

yeeeesh!

[JayC]

Do you think maybe I could have been referring to those "others" as the folks who would not LIKE a G.I.Joe ARAH movie because they don't like AMERICA and it's population of Americans? Why should they (or we) worry about what haters think...for the sake of our GREED?

 

Oooh... I'm SO sorry for misunderstanding. So your saying those "other" people outside of the United States (non-Americans), opinions don't matter if it contradicts what YOU (being a true American of course) think and want?? And of course it's evil of those Hollywood business types to want to make a profit from the movies they spend money on to make (which in today's market means a movie has to be succesfull on the global market, not just the United States)????

 

First..I guess you'd have to feel the same way as I do on the matter, and clearly you don't, you don't even see it as issue at all...or maybe not yet?

 

Now trying to slight and ridicule me into being the one that's out of line here, by making claims that I'm the one who is insulting to all non-Americans about this somehow, like I'm AGAINST an International effort on the Joe team, is a ridiculously cheap tactic, but I'm going to take odds on the fact that everybody see's thru it and recognizes it as so, just as much as I do?

 

You don't bat an eye at the insulting nature behind what these directors are proposing that they HAVE to do in taking this movie AWAY from the American based connection, because they feel that would not go over well with people outside the US, but by God if I even somewhat appear to be insulting those "other" people they're catering to, (which I'm not) you're all over it with the defensive attitude.

 

Where's your priorities man? I'm not bashing other countries here, I'm angry because it appears as though their bashing of us is going to ruin G.I.Joe. Hollywood wants to take our iconic G.I.JOE and the ARAH story and discombobulate it into something other than what it is, so as not to offend those haters and cash in on their movie ticket purchases for something we really NEED for ourselves right now, and you think that's okay and smart business?

 

yeeeesh!

 

 

I don't bat an eye because all i've seen is that they are looking at their entire audience which consitsts of more then just us Americans, and I don't see anything wrong with that. Your the one calling them evil without knowing any facts. We don't know what Hollywood is going to do at this point, but that hasn't stopped you from making pages of un-biased claims that you know they are going to make some type of anti-american movie, because they might take into account there are people who aren't American's who will need to go see it for it to be a box office success. No movie company is going to make a movie unless they feel it has the ability to be a boxoffice success. Thats not evil, thats business. If you want to make a movie and not worry about profit then go sink your own money into it and knock yourself out. If or when they do something that truely is a condradiction of what this property stands for, then I might be more sympathetic to your posts, but right now all I see is you using this topic as an excuss to throw around your usual political views on the rest of us.

[leonardo]

Bravo JayC! Very well said.

[Viper Hunter]

all I see is you using this topic as an excuss to throw around your usual political views on the rest of us.

 

 

Need say no more Jay! You're issue is with me PERIOD and not what I actually think about the information released about this proposed G.I.Joe movie. I'm not the only one reacting to it this way, so it's not just me, throwing around my political views for the sake of wanting to throw around my political views. The issue IS political whether you want to admit to it or not.

 

Seem's you're just dragging in PAST differences about it and wanting to start a flame war with me over it now, because I'm fired up about this movie business and firing off some passion fiulled posts over it. Have I insulted anyone personally or told anyone they're traitors if they go see this movie or they're stupid if they think it's ok? I don't think so, so stop trying to make it seem as though I have. I've been pretty damn critical of Hollywood and those that hold a anti-American sentiment though...OH DEAR ME, hope such people don't mind too awful much that I dislike their hatred of me and my country?

 

You have an opinion on it as well, and yours is obviously that it's no big deal and that it's ok to change G.I.joe to suit the other nations in the world who might have a disagreemnt with us, but would like to go see our old American fictional hero's in different (non american) uniforms and that's it's totally good business sense for hollywood to do that and you think I'm maybe making a mountain out of a molehill?

 

That's fine and understandable.

 

However...you're copin' an attitude with me over MY opinion though and trying to start an argument with me, when you know I can't win. You've totally misconstrued my whole intent and reasons for having the opinion I do, and you're totally WRONG on it and I've tried to explain where I'm coming from, but you either don't care, don't understand, don't get it, or you're just wanting to argue with me and put me down about my political position as you know it from my history here and not so much how I've presented on this particular topic.

 

I said it in so many words before i apparently will have to say it again...

 

I'm not AGAINST adding some "international flavor" to the ARAH story...I AM against them taking the American flavor OUT of it, and THAT is what I'm getting, is what they're trying to do?

[MaceWinduPreview]

Do you think maybe I could have been referring to those "others" as the folks who would not LIKE a G.I.Joe ARAH movie because they don't like AMERICA and it's population of Americans? Why should they (or we) worry about what haters think...for the sake of our GREED?

 

Oooh... I'm SO sorry for misunderstanding. So your saying those "other" people outside of the United States (non-Americans), opinions don't matter if it contradicts what YOU (being a true American of course) think and want?? And of course it's evil of those Hollywood business types to want to make a profit from the movies they spend money on to make (which in today's market means a movie has to be succesfull on the global market, not just the United States)????

 

First..I guess you'd have to feel the same way as I do on the matter, and clearly you don't, you don't even see it as issue at all...or maybe not yet?

 

Now trying to slight and ridicule me into being the one that's out of line here, by making claims that I'm the one who is insulting to all non-Americans about this somehow, like I'm AGAINST an International effort on the Joe team, is a ridiculously cheap tactic, but I'm going to take odds on the fact that everybody see's thru it and recognizes it as so, just as much as I do?

 

You don't bat an eye at the insulting nature behind what these directors are proposing that they HAVE to do in taking this movie AWAY from the American based connection, because they feel that would not go over well with people outside the US, but by God if I even somewhat appear to be insulting those "other" people they're catering to, (which I'm not) you're all over it with the defensive attitude.

 

Where's your priorities man? I'm not bashing other countries here, I'm angry because it appears as though their bashing of us is going to ruin G.I.Joe. Hollywood wants to take our iconic G.I.JOE and the ARAH story and discombobulate it into something other than what it is, so as not to offend those haters and cash in on their movie ticket purchases for something we really NEED for ourselves right now, and you think that's okay and smart business?

 

yeeeesh!

 

 

I don't bat an eye because all i've seen is that they are looking at their entire audience which consitsts of more then just us Americans, and I don't see anything wrong with that. Your the one calling them evil without knowing any facts. We don't know what Hollywood is going to do at this point, but that hasn't stopped you from making pages of un-biased claims that you know they are going to make some type of anti-american movie, because they might take into account there are people who aren't American's who will need to go see it for it to be a box office success. No movie company is going to make a movie unless they feel it has the ability to be a boxoffice success. Thats not evil, thats business. If you want to make a movie and not worry about profit then go sink your own money into it and knock yourself out. If or when they do something that truely is a condradiction of what this property stands for, then I might be more sympathetic to your posts, but right now all I see is you using this topic as an excuss to throw around your usual political views on the rest of us.

 

I suppose we will have to wait for the movie to come out. But, Jay C, you have to admit it, America haters are getting louder and more angry as time goes on and you cannot deny that even the little things count in the long run. I mean, look at Sigma Six, there were no American Flags anywhere, my question is... why not? @hmmm@

 

Why oh why can't GI Joe be an American Hero #US1# , I mean last time I checked GI Joe started with and is/was based on American/United States servicemen and women. @grumpy@

 

OPINION FOLLOWS ** As far as political views go, I learned a long long time ago on boards far far away (military/gi joe boards no less) that speaking about anything controversial regarding politics and religion is almost forbidden, ironic though, GI Joe stands for America or at least it did, and there is a problem expressing anything that might be in direct conflict with someone elses view, that is unless of course you have an Al Gore bumper sticker and not a Bush one. @smilepunch@ In that case, your views are never controversial

[Viper Hunter]

I think G.I. Joe can have international appeal even if the team is strictly an American outfit.

 

I believe a G.I. Joe movie's main market will be the USA and not countries like Spain, Italy, Germany, Japan, Egypt, Etc... So I would focus the movie on that market. If the movie does well internationally, than it's an added bonus. The concept of G.I. Joe shouldnt be changed to cater to markets that IMO even if the team is internationalized will not do better than if the team is entirely an american outfit.

 

 

 

Exactly Zathras!

 

Lots of assumptions are flying all over the place about this bit of news, (me included) and it's even a BIGGER (and inaccurate imo) assumption on the part of the (reported) directors (of this film) to indicate that G.I.Joe "will not SELL" to the international community. They're assuming also, that a simple toylines cartoon and comic book fictional storyline would somehow be offensive to the interantional audience for being TOO American in it's origin! @hmmm@

 

All I'm reading, is..."America kinda REALLY sucks right now and we have to kinda sorta HIDE that aspect of America's favorite TOY fighting man...G.I.JOE, by changing it to an acronym first and then we'll have to change the American Hero aspect of the ARAH tale. I'm reading shame and embarrassment in America by people proposing to be making us a movie about (of ALL things) G.I.JOE A REAL AMERICAN HERO???

[Devilbat]

Okay...as usual, I feel like I have a dual opinion here. G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero, to me, has always been that; American. We shouldn't shy away from what makes being American great just because of the current political climate, or because we may be entangled in an unpopular war. Ten years from now, I guarantee we'll start seeing all of these patriotic movies that re-visit the War in Iraq, and in hindsight, the kind that shows American soldiers aren't misguided or evil, that they were doing what they believed was right and just, that they were doing their duty, and maybe the world will learn that hey, perhaps those Americans weren't so bad after all. Sound familiar? Refer to the Vietnam War and the decade that followed its end to see what I'm talking about.

 

When I think of G.I. Joe, I think of John Wayne, kick-the-door-down, Rambo-screamin', Schwartzenegger-blastin', Devil-Dog-scrappin' save-the-day patriotism. In fact, I think alot of the world can get behind an American "hero" kicking butt and taking names in the name of FREEDOM and all that's good; everybody wants that. Everybody wants goodness and freedom, no matter what part of the world they're from. And I think that's what's at the heart of our service men and women...most of them, that is. It's the bad ones that get the press, but overall...they joined because they wanted to serve and make a difference in their world. Some might say "So what if it's an international team?" Okay...maybe you have a point. But I say, "So what if it's American all the way?" That doesn't have to be any declaration of patriotism in a movie, or a glaring example of propaganda. It can just a matter of fact, just an "it-so-happens-to-be" kinda thing. If not, are we to believe that since it would be a strictly American team that it can't have a global vision or appeal to the fight against terrorism all over the world?

 

BUT...at the same time, therein lies the truth of the matter; terrorism isn't just an American problem, or a British problem, or a Middle East problem. It's a global problem. So maybe it is appropriate that is IS addressed by an international team. And it wouldn't a be a real stretch to think Cobra would infiltrate the world at large and not just target America.

 

So it is a dilema. It's not 1985 any more, and we no longer live in the Cold War era. But at the same time, that doesn't mean we need to shed our American pride because it's not PC these days. Having said that though, I kinda think it's neat that we'd have this cool, international team that was versatile and bad-@$$, composed of all these cool, soliers-of-the-world types. Like is said, I really have a dual opinion on the matter.

 

And speaking of studio execs trying to appeal to a broader, multi-national audience, I'm reminded of the film "The Mummy", starring Brendan Frasier, an actor that you would be hard-pressed to replace as the all-American, brash, heroic, and a no-nonsense kick-butt-first-and-ask-questions-later kind of stereotypical "American" fighting the evil "Mummy" and his Middle-Eastern/North-African(?) cohorts. Why do I bring this movie up? My brother was visiting Israel when this movie came out, and he and his wife saw it while they were there. He said that it was the Israeli audience that LOVED it. Of course he said sometimes they didn't get the Western humor, and at other times they thought other odd things were funny that he didn't, but...the point is they loved this Westerner/American hero saving the day and defeating the evil Mummy character, and there's nothing international about Brendan Frasier. (lol)

[DPrime]

Okay...as usual, I feel like I have a dual opinion here. G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero, to me, has always been that; American. We shouldn't shy away from what makes being American great just because of the current political climate, or because we may be entangled in an unpopular war. Ten years from now, I guarantee we'll start seeing all of these patriotic movies that re-visit the War in Iraq, and in hindsight, the kind that shows American soldiers aren't misguided or evil, that they were doing what they believed was right and just, that they were doing their duty, and maybe the world will learn that hey, perhaps those Americans weren't so bad after all. Sound familiar? Refer to the Vietnam War and the decade that followed its end to see what I'm talking about.

 

I think you're right, to a degree. Even after that whole prison scandal and a couple of horrible incidents involving a few individuals in uniform, it seems to me that the reputation of the American soldier on the whole hasn't been tarnished, and this is an outsider's point of view, mind you! I'm not seeing the whole Vietnam image of people spitting on returning soldiers and calling them babykillers and other nonsense like that. The soldiers themselves were never seen as misguided or evil, at least by the Western World. If anyone's getting a bad reputation, it's the politicians.

 

BUT...at the same time, therein lies the truth of the matter; terrorism isn't just an American problem, or a British problem, or a Middle East problem. It's a global problem. So maybe it is appropriate that is IS addressed by an international team. And it wouldn't a be a real stretch to think Cobra would infiltrate the world at large and not just target America.

 

So it is a dilema. It's not 1985 any more, and we no longer live in the Cold War era. But at the same time, that doesn't mean we need to shed our American pride because it's not PC these days. Having said that though, I kinda think it's neat that we'd have this cool, international team that was versatile and bad-@$$, composed of all these cool, soliers-of-the-world types. Like is said, I really have a dual opinion on the matter.

 

That's EXACTLY what I was thinking - I just didn't put it into words as well as you did. Having an international-based team like that is something that the world community has been debating and hoping for for a long time, and is one reason why the UN is seen as being sometimes impotent. It's a great and interesting way to make it current.

 

And speaking of studio execs trying to appeal to a broader, multi-national audience, I'm reminded of the film "The Mummy", starring Brendan Frasier, an actor that you would be hard-pressed to replace as the all-American, brash, heroic, and a no-nonsense kick-butt-first-and-ask-questions-later kind of stereotypical "American" fighting the evil "Mummy" and his Middle-Eastern/North-African(?) cohorts. Why do I bring this movie up? My brother was visiting Israel when this movie came out, and he and his wife saw it while they were there. He said that it was the Israeli audience that LOVED it. Of course he said sometimes they didn't get the Western humor, and at other times they thought other odd things were funny that he didn't, but...the point is they loved this Westerner/American hero saving the day and defeating the evil Mummy character, and there's nothing international about Brendan Frasier. (lol)

 

Except that he's Canadian! (But no, I agree, Canadians and Americans are about as alike as you can get.)

 

Good response though...

[viseu74]

Boy, I can't wait for that Babe Ruth movie where he's a belgian field hockey player!!!!

[DPrime]

Boy, I can't wait for that Babe Ruth movie where he's a belgian field hockey player!!!!

 

Please... like the opposite doesn't happen. U-571 anyone?

[GGPiKE]

And speaking of studio execs trying to appeal to a broader, multi-national audience, I'm reminded of the film "The Mummy", starring Brendan Frasier, an actor that you would be hard-pressed to replace as the all-American, brash, heroic, and a no-nonsense kick-butt-first-and-ask-questions-later kind of stereotypical "American" fighting the evil "Mummy" and his Middle-Eastern/North-African(?) cohorts. Why do I bring this movie up? My brother was visiting Israel when this movie came out, and he and his wife saw it while they were there. He said that it was the Israeli audience that LOVED it. Of course he said sometimes they didn't get the Western humor, and at other times they thought other odd things were funny that he didn't, but...the point is they loved this Westerner/American hero saving the day and defeating the evil Mummy character, and there's nothing international about Brendan Frasier. (lol)

 

 

You know, I always wondered about that. In '01 when I was in Alexandria, Egypt they had posters plastered everywhere for The Mummy Returns . . . so obviously they enjoyed the first movie enough to have fanfare for the second one. So the whole "Anti-American" thing doesn't seem to bother a lot of people when politics and talking heads aren't involved. Granted, there WAS an air of hatred or contempt I got from some people there, while other times I ran into people either taking or preparing to take the English and Civics test for US Citizenship and Immigration Services. So, the duality of of "I hate America, but where do I sign up to move there" is pretty evident. Granted, the film took place in Egypt, so it's understandable that there was fanfare for it, but the fact that the hero was "American" in his character shows that it doesn't bother them all that much.

[Devilbat]

Except that he's Canadian! (But no, I agree, Canadians and Americans are about as alike as you can get.)

 

Good response though...

 

Heh...oops. @doh@ I assumed. And y'know what assuming does. (lol) I guess I can still say Frasier's a Westerner, to preserve my point; right?

 

But thanks for the kind words, DPrime. I appreciate it my friend! And I'd love to visit Canada. My dad did years ago, and he loved it. Maybe I'll make it up there some day.

[viseu74]

Boy, I can't wait for that Babe Ruth movie where he's a belgian field hockey player!!!!

 

Please... like the opposite doesn't happen. U-571 anyone?

 

 

And the British have every right to be upset about it just like Americans(or any other nationality)are upset that the G.I.Joe team is going to be a international team rather than A REAL AMERICAN HERO.

I

[viseu74]

What's going to happen if.. (and that's a big IF,because it's too early to know what's going to happen) Duke is the only american and the rest of the core characters like snake-eyes,scarlett etc. are from different countries?Are you guys just going to lay down like sheep?

[DPrime]

Boy, I can't wait for that Babe Ruth movie where he's a belgian field hockey player!!!!

 

Please... like the opposite doesn't happen. U-571 anyone?

 

 

And the British have every right to be upset about it just like Americans(or any other nationality)are upset that the G.I.Joe team is going to be a international team rather than A REAL AMERICAN HERO.

I

 

Hardly the same thing. One's rewriting the history of the Second World War. The other is slightly altering the background of a fictional toyline/cartoon franchise, which is going to have to be altered in some form or another unless it's going to be set in 1985... a toyline that WAS in fact altered to suit international markets in Europe, South America (and to a much lesser degree) Canada back then anyway.

 

I'm surprised that the fact that "A Real American Hero" was a later addition to the franchise hasn't come up yet...

[DPrime]

What's going to happen if.. (and that's a big IF,because it's too early to know what's going to happen) Duke is the only american and the rest of the core characters like snake-eyes,scarlett etc. are from different countries?Are you guys just going to lay down like sheep?

 

What, are you going to rally some sort of protest? Geez...

[viseu74]

Boy, I can't wait for that Babe Ruth movie where he's a belgian field hockey player!!!!

 

Please... like the opposite doesn't happen. U-571 anyone?

 

 

And the British have every right to be upset about it just like Americans(or any other nationality)are upset that the G.I.Joe team is going to be a international team rather than A REAL AMERICAN HERO.

I

 

Hardly the same thing. One's rewriting the history of the Second World War. The other is slightly altering the background of a fictional toyline/cartoon franchise, which is going to have to be altered in some form or another unless it's going to be set in 1985... a toyline that WAS in fact altered to suit international markets in Europe, South America (and to a much lesser degree) Canada back then anyway.

 

I'm surprised that the fact that "A Real American Hero" was a later addition to the franchise hasn't come up yet...

 

 

Yes the toyline was altered in the other countries, not in america....I don't care if they edit the crap out of the movie to suit international tastes..just leave the American audience alone just like Hasbro back in the day didn't all of a sudden change G.I.Joe, A REAL AMERICAN HERO into Action force in the states.

[DPrime]

Boy, I can't wait for that Babe Ruth movie where he's a belgian field hockey player!!!!

 

Please... like the opposite doesn't happen. U-571 anyone?

 

 

And the British have every right to be upset about it just like Americans(or any other nationality)are upset that the G.I.Joe team is going to be a international team rather than A REAL AMERICAN HERO.

I

 

Hardly the same thing. One's rewriting the history of the Second World War. The other is slightly altering the background of a fictional toyline/cartoon franchise, which is going to have to be altered in some form or another unless it's going to be set in 1985... a toyline that WAS in fact altered to suit international markets in Europe, South America (and to a much lesser degree) Canada back then anyway.

 

I'm surprised that the fact that "A Real American Hero" was a later addition to the franchise hasn't come up yet...

 

 

Yes the toyline was altered in the other countries, not in america....I don't care if they edit the crap out of the movie to suit international tastes..just leave the American audience alone just like Hasbro back in the day didn't all of a sudden change G.I.Joe, A REAL AMERICAN HERO into Action force in the states.

 

Well, like I said "A Real American Hero" WAS an alteration of the GI Joe toyline in order to revamp the franchise, and that happened 25 years ago. You really don't expect there to be changes after a quarter of a century?

 

Making the team international could POTENTIALLY be something that won't impact the characters or look of the team all that much. It'd be like having Snake Eyes/Stalker/Storm Shadow's backstory take place in the first Gulf War rather than Vietnam - as long as the events more or less took place and the characters are recognizable.

 

I'm a hell of a lot more worried about drastic character design changes (ie: Transformers) than the whole international team thing. I mean, NATO is an international force - would it really impact the story THAT much if GI Joe was the same? No - UNLESS they start messing with the characters and making Snake Eyes from France, stuff like that.

[Ccav]

stop bickering,besides, Paramount just hired Stuart Beatti to write a Third Script, going back to the G.I.Joe Vs Cobra story.

 

seems as if from what i hear Sommers doesnt want the last two scripts to be used.

 

 

IESB - New Third G.I.Joe Script being Written by Stuart Beatti

[Jeff]

stop bickering,besides, Paramount just hired Stuart Beatti to write a Third Script, going back to the G.I.Joe Vs Cobra story.

 

seems as if from what i hear Sommers doesnt want the last two scripts to be used.

 

 

IESB - New Third G.I.Joe Script being Written by Stuart Beatti

 

That site tends to post alot of BS, so I wouldn't put a lot of stock on anything you read there.

[DPrime]

stop bickering,besides, Paramount just hired Stuart Beatti to write a Third Script, going back to the G.I.Joe Vs Cobra story.

 

seems as if from what i hear Sommers doesnt want the last two scripts to be used.

 

 

IESB - New Third G.I.Joe Script being Written by Stuart Beatti

 

Thanks for the link!

 

Thank goodness Action Man is gone... what a dumb idea that was...

 

The Elliot/Lovett script on the other hand was GI Joe 100% but that is where the problem was. I read that script and there was no doubt that it was Joe…a cartoon GI Joe. That script had all characters that we all grew up with including Cobra, Destro, the Baroness, Duke, Storm Shadow, Snake Eyes, Scarlett, Hi-Tech and every action figure that you ever owned but it really did feel like I was reading a 90’s video game adaptation like Street Fighter or Mortal Kombat and it didn’t feel real whatsoever. At least the Skip Woods draft had a real world feel to it.

 

Okay, I know this is one of the scripts that was dismissed, but I'm assuming Hasbro is giving them names of characters to use...

 

I KNEW IT! I just knew we were going to get Hi-Tech in this stupid movie!!! What's with Hasbro and Hi-Tech, anyway? I really don't want to see either him or Kamakura when we could get classic characters like Mainframe or Quick Kick instead. I HATE HI-TECH!!!

 

Hopefully he's gone in the new script...