GIJoe 3 3/4" 25th Anniversary Figure Update (New Images)

[JoeRhyno]

I hope they never release images of the second wave, mostly because the prototypes will certainly be a whole lot better than the final product--and I'd rather not see what could have been again.

 

Kinda hard for you to say that seeing you haven't even seen the final product of any of the waves.

[Viper Hunter]

Still no toys in the store!

 

Still just getting pictures to look at!

 

Still commenting on what we THINK of these PICTURES...as we see them!

 

Am I right?

 

 

 

OK! Based on THAT...

 

 

 

I'm not feeling any differently than I was last time I shared my half negative, half positive opinions on what we're SEEING so far, on what hasn't hit the toy stores YET mind you, but just viewing these pre-release photos (of which the inconsistency is so bad) it's hard to TELL what the hell they're going to look like....

 

by the time they hit OUR HANDS!

 

 

If somebody who doesn't HAVE one yet, states they look like sh@#, how is it that somebody ELSE (who doesn't have one yet) always wants to chime in and ridicule that review of a mere preview? @hmmm@

 

I think most of my first observations have already been stated, as far as the Flint disappearing gloves, no neck CC, clinched fist CC, crappy hinge jointed knees and the proportions have ALWAYS been screwy, so that's old news in this line, but I'm hoping to be better pleased with what I can later observe IN HAND, but if it's SAFE to pass early judgement on them, just from these whacky, inconsistent photos...

 

they're not making much of an impression overall. I still like the Soldier/Officer, 1st version SE, Gung Ho and that Scarlett we saw recently looked pretty decent.

 

 

#US1#

[Darren]

Did anyone else notice that they changed the artwork for Flint from the original packaging to reflect the different shotgun?

 

And, overall, I think Timber is the worst looking of the lot. Personally, I can't wait to get my hands on these guys.

 

They also changed the artwork of the Snake Eyes Version 2 card to match his "combat boots" instead of the plain black feet with ankle holsters the original V2 had.

[DPrime]

Did anyone else notice that they changed the artwork for Flint from the original packaging to reflect the different shotgun?

 

And, overall, I think Timber is the worst looking of the lot. Personally, I can't wait to get my hands on these guys.

 

Yeah, the changed shotgun art looks clumsy and unprofessional. I don't mind the new weapon, but they should just leave the art alone. It looks like crap.

 

And yeah, Timber's kind of lame. I wish they hadn't cheaped out and used what they already had. Personally I really like the figures - it's just a shame they went 99% all out on new designs and weapons, and could have gone that %1 further and given us a new AK for the officer and a new Timber, and made the line pretty much perfect.

[Peter Parker]

I don't understand why people are bashing the figures before they are released? I know alot of people don't like the new body style because it doesn't have the o-ring, and these aren't ARAH style, but that style is 25 years old! I've been collecting GI Joe and since 82, and I grew up with the toys, comics, and cartoon. I'm just glad that GI Joe is coming back and Hasbro is doing a great job of trying to modernize the original toys for us collectors. The kids that will be buying these won't have a clue what Roadblock looked like in 1984, and they won't care. I just appreciate the concept that Hasbro is bringing. Are the new figures perfect? No. Are they just like the original artwork? No. However, I'm so ready for these to hit retail. If Hasbro can release more figures by reusing some of the molds; fine by me. That just gives us more figures and different characters. I just think that comparing the new style to the originals just isn't fair. To all the complainers, what would you like for Hasbro to do? Re-release the original molds and give us subpar ARAH figures. Most of the ARAH re-releases (comic packs and 6-packs) over the last few years have been pretty crappy due the quality of the plastics and the paint applications. I for one, don't want the ARAH style. It's been 25 years...time for an update.

[DPrime]

You know, the whole "blah blah, don't complain before they're released" thing is getting really old. This is a forum. We're supposed to express our opinions on these things.

 

Most of us are aware that things aren't set in stone, and these probably aren't final production pieces, but it's what we have to go on for the moment. Maybe Hasbro will hear our gripes and tweak up the products when they are finally released, who knows?

[Rama Sha]

One other thing that bugs me is that it doesn't look like the Officer will be getting an AK. It's too bad, because an army of snipers just doesn't sit well with me - if they were only going to do one weapon for both of them, it would have been more appropriate if it was an AK, and Hasbro could conceivably get a heck of lot more mileage out of the mold as well.

 

What's odd is the fact that on the card art the Officer still has his Ak. That's strange because they have taken great pains to reflect the changed weapons on the card art. Flint's new Shotgun, Baroness' gun and knife, Snake Eye's new Uzi, and Roadblock's ammo belt. Yet they left the Officer with his AK. They also didn't change Flint's sleeves.

[DPrime]

One other thing that bugs me is that it doesn't look like the Officer will be getting an AK. It's too bad, because an army of snipers just doesn't sit well with me - if they were only going to do one weapon for both of them, it would have been more appropriate if it was an AK, and Hasbro could conceivably get a heck of lot more mileage out of the mold as well.

 

What's odd is the fact that on the card art the Officer still has his Ak. That's strange because they have taken great pains to reflect the changed weapons on the card art. Flint's new Shotgun, Baroness' gun and knife, Snake Eye's new Uzi, and Roadblock's ammo belt. Yet they left the Officer with his AK. They also didn't change Flint's sleeves.

 

I'll tell you one thing - I was contemplating getting two of each because of the artwork, but they botched it up with those touch-ups. I'll only be getting these to open for sure, now.

 

If that sounds picky too bad - my bachelor's degree was in Fine Art, and details like that matter to me. It's like when later sculptors covered up the nudity of classical Greek and Renaissance sculpture, altering the original works. (And yeah, I do think the original GI Joe artwork is that good!)

[carlmule]

well, i'm pretty bummed about how some of these look (CC, baroness' legs) but overall, i'm still really psyched. figures like snake eyes (both) and scarlett really do rock pretty solid.

 

so, while i'm disappointed for the moment, i'm still totally psyched to see these on the shelves. yay!

[revsears]

these new pics generaly seem more disapointing especialy with cc. I really do want to finally get some of these in hand! It's frustrating to always see the same guys taunting me.

[Vending Machine]

Kinda hard for you to say that seeing you haven't even seen the final product of any of the waves.

 

Really? Because I could have sworn that TNI put up pictures of what the final products will look like. In fact, I could have sworn that those pics are why this thread exists. Hm.

 

Don't be ridiculous. These are pics of the final products, and they're a HUGE step back from the prototypes. The camera may put ten pounds on a person, but it doesn't add three inches to a figure's legs. That's just shoddy work.

 

I don't understand why people are bashing the figures before they are released?

 

I'm bashing them because the prototypes looked awesome, and these final products look like absolute crap by comparison. That's why I'm pissed. I'm ready for a relaunch, but all Hasbro is giving us is the same old lackluster work that we've been getting from them since Joe vs. Cobra.

[cobrasaboteur]

i've got to admit, i really like these...depending on their price i might even need to get a set loose as well as a moc set.

 

Anybody gonna be goin to that comic con?? I want to try and get all of these style figures.

 

-saboteur

[Vending Machine]

really? because you do not like them that means they won't appeal to a large enough customer base? interesting concept.

 

You honestly think people will waste their money on shoddy paint aps (which have plagued us since Joe vs. Cobra), wonky proportions, and overall lackluster/fugly design flaws--especially considering the latter waves of Valor vs. Venom saw an absence of such problems and yet people STILL didn't buy them? Interesting concept.

 

you don't like them, fine. but no need to proclaim the lines failure because you don't. these figures success or failure doesn't depend on your personal preferences. sorry if that is upsetting or surprising to you.

 

I'm sorry if you have the poor judgment/taste to like these wastes of plastic, but most consumers are more discerning than you are. If we were looking at figures that even remotely resembled the prototypes, I wouldn't be here complaining right now, because I think that most would agree that those figures are, indeed, nice. These are NOT those figures, but rather something less. Sorry if the fact that these figures look to be of poor quality rocks your world, but, well, too bad for you.

[JoeRhyno]

The prototypes were digitally altered and photoshopped, so of course they looked awesome... well, besides some of the goofy I gotta take a dump stances... nobody knows for sure that these are the final pieces... they're just another set of pictures that Hasbro released...

 

I'm not saying you can't comment, that's what the boards are fore.. I just found your comment about next waves of figures funny cause again.. we haven't even seen the final product yet.. no matter what you think those pics are of...

 

You honestly think people will waste their money on shoddy paint aps (which have plagued us since Joe vs. Cobra), wonky proportions, and overall lackluster/fugly design flaws--especially considering the latter waves of Valor vs. Venom saw an absence of such problems and yet people STILL didn't buy them? Interesting concept.

 

 

you ever see how much those crappy 96-97 Vipers(troopers) go for on ebay

[Vending Machine]

That's a lot of hostility towards people just for having a different opinion.

 

Yeah, well I'm pretty sick of dealing with overly positive douchebags with Peter Pan, zippedy-doo-da uncritical outlooks on things that absolutely suck major amounts of ass. You may think the hostility is misplaced, but they're just as bad as Hasbro because they're addicted ass-kissers who want nothing more than to suck up whatever bit of warped plastic Hasbro will send down the line next. Basically, it's people like them who enable Hasbro to make such overly blatant errors. These are the same people who thought the t-crotch on JvC was a nice change of pace, or who thought that Mattel was doing everything it could to make sure that the relaunch of MotU did well. Mindless sheep, and I'm sick of them. Sue me.

 

In rebuttal to your arguments, what were you really expecting from Hasbro? They've never managed to hit anything perfect - these are updates in a totally new sculpting style. There is bound to be some trial and error and other missteps along the way. Not to mention, some of these pictures (especially for the 5 pack figures) are from such a distance, how can anyone really tell there are issues with the sculpting and not just poor posing? And we have seen some terrible poses from hasbro.

Yes, because poor posing and distance will add three inches to a figure's legs and remove a neck completely. Now you're just reaching. Also, you would perhaps have a point if they hadn't been in the business for eons and were having equal issues with Star Wars--which they're not.

 

As for them hitting it perfectly, those prototypes look pretty damn spiffy when compared to the mass-produced product--and not just due to paint apps, but in terms of sculpt, too. What's the story there?

 

My only point - maybe a lot of these will look better in hand.

 

You have to admit that that's a pretty big "maybe."

 

And for the record, I'm in the camp of "overall, pretty happy" with what's been produced (minus SE v.2 which I think my expectations may have been unrealistically high on).

 

I don't think my personal expectations, which were based solely on pictures of prototypes produced by Hasbro itself, were high at all. I even had some buffers in case of paint flaws or minor leg warping. But, no. They couldn't even meet prototype standards.

[Agrevane]

I don't care how they look they are trillion, trillion times better than those 2.5 figs they tried to push off on us. The new Joe's really make me glad to be a Joe fan again, Can't wait to see them in stores.

[revsears]

That's a lot of hostility towards people just for having a different opinion.

 

Yeah, well I'm pretty sick of dealing with overly positive douchebags with Peter Pan, zippedy-doo-da uncritical outlooks on things that absolutely suck major amounts of ass. You may think the hostility is misplaced, but they're just as bad as Hasbro because they're addicted ass-kissers who want nothing more than to suck up whatever bit of warped plastic Hasbro will send down the line next. Basically, it's people like them who enable Hasbro to make such overly blatant errors. These are the same people who thought the t-crotch on JvC was a nice change of pace, or who thought that Mattel was doing everything it could to make sure that the relaunch of MotU did well. Mindless sheep, and I'm sick of them. Sue me.

 

 

State your opinion, fine, but your now insulting others for having an opinion different then yours, not just disagreeing with them. different strokes for different folks (never liked that phrase but it fits) your crossing a line here and i don't like it.

 

Call the toys trash, that's fine, but if people like em, leave em alone and let em enjoy.

[revsears]

I don't care how they look they are trillion, trillion times better than those 2.5 figs they tried to push off on us. The new Joe's really make me glad to be a Joe fan again, Can't wait to see them in stores.

i'm almost with you on that. They aren't perfect but they are at least the right scale. I don't care how good it looks in another scale i ain't buying. So this is a major step in the right direction.

[Captain gree]

I doubt there will be a chance of ARMY-BUILDING in this line

[Spike]

It's Sigma in 4" scale. The look so damn cartoony.

[Viper Hunter]

You know, the whole "blah blah, don't complain before they're released" thing is getting really old. This is a forum. We're supposed to express our opinions on these things.

 

 

@lol@ Maaaaan...I'm with ya on THAT!

 

 

 

 

I don't understand why people are bashing the figures before they are released?

 

Don't take this as an attack, but I will try and point out to you, that it's perfectly reasonable for any of us to pass judgement on these, based on what we're SEEING, and I think most of us do a pretty good job of stating our opinions in a manner that lets the reader know, it's what we're THINKING, and not what we KNOW of them.

 

Show me a PICTURE...

 

Yeah, sure, I'll express an opinion on whatever it is, based on how it LOOKS in that photo. Might not look the same in person, but we don't have that option yet, and I certainly don't see a problem with having discussion over the images themselves.

 

Is that so hard to "understand"?

 

 

 

To all the complainers, what would you like for Hasbro to do? Re-release the original molds and give us subpar ARAH figures. Most of the ARAH re-releases (comic packs and 6-packs) over the last few years have been pretty crappy due the quality of the plastics and the paint applications. I for one, don't want the ARAH style. It's been 25 years...time for an update.

 

And it appears that you're getting that, so what should it matter that a few old ARAH G.I.Joe fans don't share the exact SAME sentiment, and might have wished for something a bit different?

 

I don't want exact replicas of the old figures either. I've already got all those. Once I picked up on the fact that NEW characters coming along, in the old style, to MATCH my other collection, was not going to happen, that the BRAINS behind such cool characters, that the gas in the "think tank" was on fumes or exhausted already, and that all we were getting is the same MOST popular characters in different updated styles...I guess I've been waiting patiently for a style that is truly "better" and I don't think that's happened yet, for all the efforts. They get close, and then cancel and start ANOTHER.

 

The characters have remained, but the old style has been retired. This is understood and not worth arguing over anymore, but still being a G.I.Joe FAN, and still having high hopes and kiddish anticipation about the thought that something new AND improved will finally come along, I'm still hanging around with the hobby. The old stuff still carries worthy discussion weight and customs are awesome around these parts, and I enjoy that still.

 

These look to have potential, but I can't tell for certain, until I have one in hand. I'm kinda chatty though, went to the effort of joining up on a DISCUSSION forum, because I like to chat so much, so I can't help it, if I want to chat on the pictures of them so far, and if they look funky to me, they LOOK funky to me.

 

Hell, I've raved about a figure before, based off of these same preview pics, and then BOUGHT it and HATED it. It can work both ways.

[DPrime]

It's Sigma in 4" scale. The look so damn cartoony.

 

Whoa, whoa! Cartoony they may be, but Sigma Six they ain't! At least they're based on a GOOD cartoon!

[Stevy Maximus]

really? because you do not like them that means they won't appeal to a large enough customer base? interesting concept.

 

You honestly think people will waste their money on shoddy paint aps (which have plagued us since Joe vs. Cobra), wonky proportions, and overall lackluster/fugly design flaws--especially considering the latter waves of Valor vs. Venom saw an absence of such problems and yet people STILL didn't buy them? Interesting concept.

 

you don't like them, fine. but no need to proclaim the lines failure because you don't. these figures success or failure doesn't depend on your personal preferences. sorry if that is upsetting or surprising to you.

I'm sorry if you have the poor judgment/taste to like these wastes of plastic, but most consumers are more discerning than you are. If we were looking at figures that even remotely resembled the prototypes, I wouldn't be here complaining right now, because I think that most would agree that those figures are, indeed, nice. These are NOT those figures, but rather something less. Sorry if the fact that these figures look to be of poor quality rocks your world, but, well, too bad for you.

90-odd % of the people who supporting this time really don't give two flips about paint quality or even the quality of the product itself. Kids and parents are going to be buying cool army toys, and so long as they toys don't shatter into a million pieces upon opening really won't care if Cobra commander's legs are a little longer, or paint wipes are 100% accurate like on the hand painted prototypes (personally, I'm just baffled at the whole shoddy paint apps comment period given I've alwasy thought the mainline to be fairly well done in that department.

I don't know WHAT toyline you're looking at, but aside from minor paint differences, all those figures are EXACTLY the same as the first images we saw of them.

 

Whoa, whoa! Cartoony they may be, but Sigma Six they ain't! At least they're based on a GOOD cartoon!

Well said

 

Here's all I gotta really say about Flint:

I supported Hasbro, tried to keep things in perspective and generally became the Hasbro cheerleader around here. I've supported them through questionable decisions and products.

But if I don't have gloves on my Flint I (with viper hunter I'm assuming) will raise an unholy hell to the gates of Hasbro themselves!!!!! @horse@ @rambo@

[Vending Machine]

State your opinion, fine, but your now insulting others for having an opinion different then yours, not just disagreeing with them.

 

Careful where you step, ladies and gentlemen...we've got a bleeding heart, here. Don't want you to slip.

 

It's one thing to think that these figures are the greatest damn items ever created by God or man (I think they're wrong, obviously, and I'll tell them such, but I won't horribly rain on their parade). It's another thing entirely to say that I have no basis for my opinion, even though I have more than enough evidence that these things are going to suck and suck hard. These people are truly imbeciles and I, for one, am sick of hearing/reading their uncritical Pollyanna crap.

 

different strokes for different folks (never liked that phrase but it fits) your crossing a line here and i don't like it.

I don't like people challenging/debasing my opinion simply because it's unpopular. I guess we'll both just have to deal, chief.

 

Call the toys trash, that's fine, but if people like em, leave em alone and let em enjoy.

 

I hope you realize that you pretty much just told me that I can't call the toys trash on here, since doing so (and pointing out the flaws) would most certainly make someone have a bad day. As for right now, though, I've said my peace.

[Ren]

I'm still very impressed with Hasbro's effort, and can't wait for these to be released! I love the Joe Base that plays the them song, what a great extra to toss in with the figures. And that V1 SS is one of the best toys, yes, toys, that I've ever seen, to bad that not a single card release so I can put him next to my moc '84 SS.