3 3/4" Offical Update

[GTA Sith]

I don't see how they could think S6 is selling well though to justify giving it more attention than the 3-3/4" line. It's rotting on the pegs in every store I've been in.

 

Can we stop with anecdotal evidence as 'proof' of anything?

 

Hasbro has already said that S6 is going well.

 

 

Have Hasbro been looking at the peg of S6 as of late. There are alot of S6 figures on the peg at TRU while the 3 3/4 inch line is still selling fast. S6 is just a waste of time for Hasbro, as for the 3 3/4 goes I'm still buy them.

[Guest McBragg]

no news of habsro's roundtable yesterday? Was it cancelled?

 

heck, it probably went like this:

 

HASBRO GUY: "You may ask me any three questions."

 

FAN BOY 1: "Are you really head of Hasbro's GI JOE team?"

 

HASBRO GUY: "Yes."

 

FAN BOY 1: "YOU?"

 

HASBRO GUY: "Yes."

 

FAN BOY 1: "REALLY?"

 

HASBRO GUY: "Yes."

 

FAN BOY 2: "Hey, I wanted to know if you have any plans to...."

 

HASBRO GUY: "Thank you, come again."

 

FAN BOY 2: "But I came all this way..."

 

HASBRO GUY: "Thank you, come again."

[xhairs]

well at least the 3 3/4in 6packs made it go out with a blast hasbro has killed the line agin i mean what aboout wave 5 or xmas nothing new that sucks .

[BradMan]

The Steel Brigade set looks really good, but could anyone give me some info on the Steel Brigade? I thought it was just a GI Joe fan club or something like that. Did they ever make an appearance in the comic book or cartoon? Thanks.

 

PharmV

 

As far as I know, Steel Brigade never made an appearance in either the comic or the cartoon show. Steel Brigade was more of a task force than an individual character. For a couple years during the original RAH line in the 80s and early 90s, Steel Brigade was a mail-in promotional figure. You filled out an order form with your name and everything, and when you got the figure it would have your biography on the file card.

 

Every figure was the same amalgamation of parts (different combinations came and went - there are about 4 or 5 variations) but had the unique file card that you created.

 

As I understand it, the Steel Brigade leader "Red Zone" in the 6 Pack is named after, and the headscuplt is modeled after a guy named Luke Ellison who won a contest in Maxim magazine a few years ago. He got to go to the Hasbro factory and have his head laser scanned to make a figure out of.

 

Pretty cool.

 

As I've mentioned already... I'm going to get a few extra packs to add some more figures to the Steel Brigade.

[JoeRhyno]

TNI Steel Brigaders UNITE!!!

lol.. I wish it was a 6-pack of just SBs.. that way I can make all my TNI homies.. instead, I'll have to buy a couple packs.. and then sell the Pague troopers, I'm just not feeling them.

 

Can someone at the con ask a rep when the sets will be in stores? the card says June 06...so does that mean like.. um, yesterday? @loll@

[Spike]

You've go tot be kidding me. That's like nothing compared to the other years. G.I.Joe 3 3/4 in. is falling through if you ask me, and I hate to see it happen. I do think it will pick up someday again though. Thanks for the info. JayC.

[wildfire]

thanks for reporting guys, and keep the news coming, I'm foaming at the mouth here.

[Wesker13]

I like every figure, except Outback and Munitia. I like seeing the '86 vipers. Also the SB brings back memories. I first got mine in a GIJoe magazine, not the comics. I like the Plague Patrol.

[Pit Viper]

My problem with the Plauge Control is they are yet another "elite" Cobra group.

[Inggasson]

i LOVE that new-sculpt Night Viper. Looks like I'm gonna be replacing all my funskool arah NVs now...

 

Who is that SE repaint with the funny two-tone red/black and yellow/black helmet?

[Rama Sha]

I don't see how they could think S6 is selling well though to justify giving it more attention than the 3-3/4" line. It's rotting on the pegs in every store I've been in.

 

Can we stop with anecdotal evidence as 'proof' of anything?

 

Hasbro has already said that S6 is going well.

 

And like Hasbro would say it was doing bad in public, where the stockholders could find out. I think you underestimate the importance of BS in big buisness.

 

 

 

And I love the Viper Set, but it's going to be a #$## for me to get. I'd like 3 or 4 sets, but with no TRU close by I have to depend on HTS, which will proably sell out in like 10 mins.

[carlmule]

can someone ask when the steel brigade 6 pack will actually be out? it says june 2006.. if that is true then it means any day now... that would rock so much.. my birthday is a week from today!

 

while i plan to use totally different bodies for these characters, the headsculpts and characters are all creative and awesome... why did hasbro wait so long to get so creative! i never buy more than 1 six pack but this time i'm getting at LEAST 2 so I can build up a plague force...

[Guest DavAnthony]

Not that this is scientific by any streatch of the imagination but the Sigma Six thread has 200 something views. The 3.75" thread has 700 views.

 

This is a similiar trend I see on a few of the other boards. If this is representative of the collector then I don't see how Sigma Six is doing "better" then 3.75". Once again not proof just an observation. Of course if you factor kids into it then that may change things as well, since I'm not sure how many kids are online here.

 

Also in regards to believing what Hasbro says about it's sales, just because a company says something does not mean for an instant it's the truth. 'Lying' and exagerations are a normal part of corporate life. If Hasbro has thrown all of their support behind Sigma Six and this is a line Walmart is willing to go with, they will say what they need to "sell" it to people. Hasbro does not want to be seen publicly as having two GiJoe "failures" within a year.

 

Part of my job is to visit retail stores. The Sigma Six stuff sells if it's a new figure, such as Long Range but after that they don't move. The same figures have been sitting in the same spots for weeks now. The 3.75" stuff doesn't last more then a couple of days.

 

Below is all conecture on my part, but it's my story and I"m sticking to it

So my interpretation of all of this is that Walmart was pressuring Hasbro to drop 3.75. A hasbro executive buckled since it wasn't doing Star Wars level of sales. However this executive is a big wig and what he says tends to go. He also likes to be right and people don't want to loose their jobs.

So he comes up with the Sigma Six concept and everyone needs to "get behind the policy".

There is no intentions at that point to keep 3.75" Joes on the market. When collectors and fans find out their angry, Hasbro realizes this could negatively influence the Sigma Six push and in hopes of recouping cost of the Robot Rebellion line they decide to create DTC and also see if they can sell the 3.75" that way. There are also people within Hasbro who aren't happy with the direction of Sigma Six and are pushing for some type of continutation of the 3.75" figures so DTC and HTS is an avenue their pushing for.

There are also people who don't want 3.75" around at all so they are pushing for the failure of the DTC Joes. They see it as a line Walmart doesn't like so why shake the boat. That is why the 3.75" team gets little to no funding for promotion or parts. This is also probably why the 3.75" figures were plagued with problems (proportions, sculps, articulation, AA)from the start.

 

Sales come in and Sigma Six is doing okay..not great but okay. However do to the insistence of the "Executive" and Hasbro's concerns of having two "loses" in the same year and how that will affect investors, Hasbro spins Sigma Six as "selling well" and that it is succesfull, when in actuality compared to 3.75" Joes it is selling poorly but due to Walmart, "Exec", and Stocks this isn't reported and we have the mess of disjointed facts and information we've been trying to make sense of.

 

Like I said this is all conjecture and not proof of anything just my opinion. So it either hits the nail on the head, comes close or misses entirely, but it's what I believe.

[Stevy Maximus]

Not that this is scientific by any streatch of the imagination but the Sigma Six thread has 200 something views. The 3.75" thread has 700 views.

 

Also keep in mind that,by and large, ADC has a predominantly anti Sigma Six sentiment and most of the collectors that post here are FAR more interested in the "fate" of 3.75.

 

I don't see how they could think S6 is selling well though to justify giving it more attention than the 3-3/4" line. It's rotting on the pegs in every store I've been in.

 

Can we stop with anecdotal evidence as 'proof' of anything?

 

Hasbro has already said that S6 is going well.

 

 

Have Hasbro been looking at the peg of S6 as of late. There are alot of S6 figures on the peg at TRU while the 3 3/4 inch line is still selling fast. S6 is just a waste of time for Hasbro, as for the 3 3/4 goes I'm still buy them.

That's true of damn near EVERY line at this time of year. Summer is the slowest toy season, and almost everyone is sitting on various products. 3.75 might be selling well at YOUR store, but is it everywhere else?

THAT is the problem with using "what I've seen" as evidence for sales. As we've seen when 3.75 was on the shelves, some areas just sell one toy line better than others. I've had friends at JBL mention that the line was stagnant in Ohio TRU stores, so it can all go either way

[MaceWinduPreview]

The bald steel brigade looks like Gung Ho, but apparently they say it isnt, but as far as I am concerned, that is going to be my default Gung Ho, it is SPOT ON.

 

I think that GI Joe has gone thru many incarnations, and most of "us" grew up with the 3 3/4" line and it seems that its best days are behind it, though with the new technology for head sculpting, I wish it werent so.

[Draven79]

Hate to say it, but I knew it. Sad year for 3 3/4 Joes. Wave 4 is mostly stinky, no more comic packs, and only 2 6 packs. Uh yeah 3 3/4 is sucessful my ass. I just don't buy it anymore that collectors are supporting the line enough.

Draven

[Guest McBragg]

The more optimistic fans haven't dawned on what this all means:

 

No Zanya

 

No devil's due Serpentor

 

No dr. venom

 

No more troop packs of any kind from after this September until to who knows when? (info about 25th anniversary at next con, meaning their plans, if any come to pass, are in later summer of 2007.)

 

No red DTC hiss repaint

 

No sigma six style 3 3/4" Cobra Commander, (those samples are gonna be prized peices for sure.)

 

No grey 2004 Firefly repaint.

 

no new sculpt style Joes, aside from maybe Master Collector's "free" club exclusive.

 

No RAH outside of Master Collector.

 

No MAIL-IN figure, unless Hasbro does it cover their well-publicized statement.

 

 

I'm glad Star Wars is doing some interesting stuff next year, otherwise I'd be really bored.

[Guest DavAnthony]

QUOTE(DavAnthony @ Jul 1 2006, 12:39 PM)

 

Not that this is scientific by any streatch of the imagination but the Sigma Six thread has 200 something views. The 3.75" thread has 700 views.

 

 

 

Also keep in mind that,by and large, ADC has a predominantly anti Sigma Six sentiment and most of the collectors that post here are FAR more interested in the "fate" of 3.75."

 

Stevey, yes that is why I mentioned it is from what I've seen at other boards as well.

 

Hate to say it, but I knew it. Sad year for 3 3/4 Joes. Wave 4 is mostly stinky, no more comic packs, and only 2 6 packs. Uh yeah 3 3/4 is sucessful my ass. I just don't buy it anymore that collectors are supporting the line enough.

Draven

 

Well you and Hasbro are in agreement, but you beleive what you wish and I'll do the same.

[Agrevane]

I look at it like this; If Hasbro does not like producing G.I.Joe toys. Then it should get out of the business and sine over the license to a company that cares for its fans. I would be happy with ToyBizz producing G.I.Joe, I would even be happy with Bandi handling them.

[falcon7]

Thanks for the pics. I am really excited about the two new six-packs. I guess I had better start saving too.

[xhairs]

DAVE you hit it right on the head bud. i agree with all that you said. we did our job in buying the stuff but you onlly can buy so much bad stuff befor you say enough is enough i want to buy something like. and with how hasblor has handle the whole dtc line nowonder it failed they wanted it to.

[JoeRhyno]

they wanted it to.

 

I wouldn't say that.. if that was the case, they wouldn't have brought it out at all.. I'm getting sick of people saying they wanted it to fail, that's just dumb.. why would a company spend thousands of dollars on all that, if "they wanted it to fail"

[Stevy Maximus]

I look at it like this; If Hasbro does not like producing G.I.Joe toys. Then it should get out of the business and sine over the license to a company that cares for its fans. I would be happy with ToyBizz producing G.I.Joe, I would even be happy with Bandi handling them.

You really don't get it? GI Joe AS A BRAND is doing fine, it is profitable and worth Hasbros' time to continue, the 3.75 section apparently is not (as is the 12" division, which was yanked last year).

 

And you would NOT be happy with either of the other two companies making the line. Toybiz is spotty on QC and distribution, and Bandai is as much (if not MORE so) a market follower than Hasbro.

[Guest DavAnthony]

they wanted it to.

 

I wouldn't say that.. if that was the case, they wouldn't have brought it out at all.. I'm getting sick of people saying they wanted it to fail, that's just dumb.. why would a company spend thousands of dollars on all that, if "they wanted it to fail"

 

Well Joe I look at the DTC line as damage control from Hasbro. If they hadn't done anything GiJoe wise in the 3.75" scale after it's "hiatus" then I beleive a lot more folks would of been resistent to Sigma Six. This way they gave us some crumbs and people didn't feel the hostility towards Sigma Six because if they can still buy some 3.75" stuff then they aren't blaming Sigma Six for the cancelation of the line that they like. Otherwise, as many people were saying when this entire "hiatus" Sigma Six debacle started, they weren't going to buy Sigma Six out of spite for Sigma Six being the reason 3.75" Joes were cancelled.

 

So in this way I beleive they did want it to fail because it was only a temporary fix until they could shuffle enough people over to Sigma Six that they weren't worried about backlash.

[xhairs]

they wanted it to.

 

I wouldn't say that.. if that was the case, they wouldn't have brought it out at all.. I'm getting sick of people saying they wanted it to fail, that's just dumb.. why would a company spend thousands of dollars on all that, if "they wanted it to fail"

 

easy like dave said to keep us quite till they had s6 out and ppl buying them and start to say hey this figs ant bad. i like them better then what the 3.75 figs have out . come they had this planed for awhile. thats why i say they wanted it to. cuse look nothing new after wave 4 we got 2 awsome 6packs and thats it. and look how long it took and still no wave 4 and it wont be for months till it hits stores.