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Brian Synger directed x men, both flicks were awesome, and ok costumes. This is an ok+ costume, and Synger directing, prepare for a good flick.

IMO, no one can judge a movie just for a costume.

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everyone has tyhe right to thier opinions...

 

 

i personally think this Batman is gonna be great,,,not as great as the `89 film but great!

 

AS for Supes...im gonna give it a shot

Have you seen the pics of Scarecrow? It looks like Charlie Brown put a burlap sack over his head. Where the hell is Crane's hat? His red, straw-stuffed shirt? His...his...everything that makes him THE SCARECROW?!

 

Same thing with Superman. What is it with these directors lately? Their visions often =/= accuracy, and this makes the movies bite. Hard.

 

I'll be passing on Superman Returns.

 

Some guys should understand that is an adaptation, a live action flick and comic costumes can´t be done exactly as their comic counterparts. And yes, it´s a solid costume that will work in the film.

 

No, I think you're confusing "can't be done" with "the director doesn't want it to be done." If you recall, the Chris Reeve costume seemed pretty damn close to the comic. Seriously...the Superman costume is hard to screw up, and Singer managed to screw it up.

 

Brian Synger directed x men, both flicks were awesome, and ok costumes.

 

I wish I had such low standards as you. The costumes were mundane (Sabertooth, Toad, pretty much everyone), and the casting was off (geriatric Magneto, wooden EVERYONE but Prof. X, Wolverine, and Nightcrawler).

 

This is an ok+ costume, and Synger directing, prepare for a good flick.

 

It looks more like Bizarro's costume than Superman's. And prepare for a good flick? Singer does well with movies like Apt Pupil and Usual Suspects, but when it comes to comic book movies, he inserts too much of his own vision into things (i.e. needlessly changing costumes, bad casting, etc.).

 

IMO, no one can judge a movie just for a costume.

 

You're right; however, I can make an educated guess based on director, casting, AND costume. All of these, IMO, come to Superman Returns = supercrap.

 

If anything (comparing his Kent costume with his Superman costume), I think the guy, at least visually, pulls off the different personas better than Christopher Reeve.

 

Yeah, cause in the comic, they were so damn different. I mean, you could hardly tell that Clark Kent was Superman in the comic simply on looks alone!

 

Give me a break. Chris Reeve didn't pull it off because to do so would be to lose the accuracy in the portrayal.

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Some guys should understand that is an adaptation, a live action flick and comic costumes can´t be done exactly as their comic counterparts. And yes, it´s a solid costume that will work in the film.

 

No, I think you're confusing "can't be done" with "the director doesn't want it to be done." If you recall, the Chris Reeve costume seemed pretty damn close to the comic. Seriously...the Superman costume is hard to screw up, and Singer managed to screw it up.

 

Yeah, Chris Reeve´s costume was identically to the comic book, but, if Superman existed, he would be invited to conferences, interviews, funerals...would u take seriously a guy with underwear on a spandex suit? I´ve heard tons of jokes about the underpanties, and a hero should impose respect and admiration by his acts, beliefs, etc.

 

 

Brian Synger directed x men, both flicks were awesome, and ok costumes.

 

I wish I had such low standards as you. The costumes were mundane (Sabertooth, Toad, pretty much everyone), and the casting was off (geriatric Magneto, wooden EVERYONE but Prof. X, Wolverine, and Nightcrawler).

 

I don´t have low standards, the x-men outfits looked ok, not great. If i had low standards i would have been thrilled with Green Goblin´s costume.

 

This is an ok+ costume, and Synger directing, prepare for a good flick.

 

It looks more like Bizarro's costume than Superman's. And prepare for a good flick? Singer does well with movies like Apt Pupil and Usual Suspects, but when it comes to comic book movies, he inserts too much of his own vision into things (i.e. needlessly changing costumes, bad casting, etc.).

 

C´mon, don´t tell me you didn´t like x-men, or X2 even more.

 

IMO, no one can judge a movie just for a costume.

 

You're right; however, I can make an educated guess based on director, casting, AND costume. All of these, IMO, come to Superman Returns = supercrap.

 

I give u that, it´s ur opinion. I don´t agree with it, but I respect it.

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No, I think you're confusing "can't be done" with "the director doesn't want it to be done."  If you recall, the Chris Reeve costume seemed pretty damn close to the comic.  Seriously...the Superman costume is hard to screw up, and Singer managed to screw it up.

 

(geriatric Magneto

 

This is an ok+ costume, and Synger directing, prepare for a good flick.

 

It looks more like Bizarro's costume than Superman's. And prepare for a good flick? Singer does well with movies like Apt Pupil and Usual Suspects, but when it comes to comic book movies, he inserts too much of his own vision into things (i.e. needlessly changing costumes, bad casting, etc.).

 

Yeah, cause in the comic, they were so damn different. I mean, you could hardly tell that Clark Kent was Superman in the comic simply on looks alone!

 

Give me a break. Chris Reeve didn't pull it off because to do so would be to lose the accuracy in the portrayal.

HOW did he screw it up?

Cape? Check

Emblem? Check

Undies? Check

Red and blue with a touch of yellow? Check, check, and check

Just because it doesn't fit the unrealistic proportions of the comic doesn't mean it is suddenly crap.

And depending on which artist is drawing him, his suit CHANGES! How can there be "one" perfect interpretation (which is what ALL these comic films are, interpretations of the source material)

 

Kind of hard for a fit 30-40 year old to be at a WW2 concentration camp @pow@

 

How much "of their own vision" have various writers and artist put into Superman in the past 50 years? There will always be room for interpretation ON ANY OF THESE FILMS. And in many cases, these changes are so Joe Movie-goer can enjoy the film, not to appease fanboys.

 

The basic issue is what works in a comic book, doesn't neccessarily translate to working on a live action motion picture.

These films are being done to appeal to a majority of people, not a dwindling number of hardcore fanboys.

 

These films should be taken on their own, not directly tied to any previous work.

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Yeah, Chris Reeve´s costume was identically to the comic book, but, if Superman existed, he would be invited to conferences, interviews, funerals...would u take seriously a guy with underwear on a spandex suit? I´ve heard tons of jokes about the underpanties, and a hero should impose respect and admiration by his acts, beliefs, etc.

 

True, but we're not talking about real life. We're talking about comic books, and comic book movies.

 

I don´t have low standards,  the x-men outfits looked ok, not great. If i had low standards i would have been thrilled with Green Goblin´s costume.

 

I don't think anyone can disagree with that, actually.

 

C´mon, don´t tell me you didn´t like x-men, or X2 even more.

 

I can lie if you want me to. The casting was poor, the costumes were weak, and the stories for both, while okay, were really just "okay." They weren't much more than that.

 

I give u that, it´s ur opinion. I don´t agree with it, but I respect it.

 

It's just using the past to predict the future is all. I could conceivably be wrong. But I doubt it.

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Here's the changes I would make:

 

 

 

Logo bigger, Actor BIGGER, "red undies come higher & belt come higher, colors brightersupermandchangecomp.jpg

I agree your touch-ups make it look alot better. I done see why they dont use the orginal suit design Reeves wore in the movies. It looked dead on.

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HOW did he screw it up?

Cape? Check

 

Looks like leather and is connected at the neck, not the shoulders.

 

Emblem? Check

 

Too small, three-dimensional. Try hiding that under a button-down shirt. It's actually less realistic than the embroidered logo.

 

Undies? Check

 

Too small, too low-cut. They also look like a separate piece.

 

Red and blue with a touch of yellow? Check, check, and check

 

Try dark blue, blood red, and gold. Bizzarro colors, not Superman colors.

 

And I see the point you're making. However, it's a lot like saying that because a person's feces contains essentially the same chemical elements as food, it's pretty much food on its own.

 

Just because it doesn't fit the unrealistic proportions of the comic doesn't mean it is suddenly crap.

 

Oh, you're right. The impracticality of a raised chest logo and textured EVERYTHING make the suit a great deal more realistic than Reeve's comic-accurate suit.

 

Come on.

 

And depending on which artist is drawing him, his suit CHANGES!

 

Those interpretations are not nearly as different as this one is, so don't even try to use a "smaller chest symbol ON OCCASION" argument here. It doesn't work.

 

Are there minor changes? Sure. But the suit is hardly as different in those as it is here.

 

How can there be "one" perfect interpretation (which is what ALL these comic films are, interpretations of the source material)

 

I don't know. The Reeve suit seemed pretty perfect to me. Also, I would think the interpretation would come in the way of casting, acting, and story, not in terms of costume.

 

Kind of hard for a fit 30-40 year old to be at a WW2 concentration camp @pow@

 

Kinda hard to see Magneto from the comics in someone who should pretty much be on a respirator. It's a comic book movie, not Schindler's List. Magneto is hardly portrayed as a decrepit old man in the comics.

 

How much "of their own vision" have various writers and artist put into Superman in the past 50 years?

 

Without terribly altering the way things work/look in Superman's universe? Quite a bit, save for the ultra-unpopular RED/BLUE Superman fiasco.

 

There will always be room for interpretation ON ANY OF THESE FILMS.

 

Why does interpretation always = visual inaccuracy and inadequate casting? Oh, right. Directorial hubris.

 

And in many cases, these changes are so Joe Movie-goer can enjoy the film, not to appease fanboys.

 

Again, how can visual accuracy and adequate casting possibly make the experience less enjoyable to the (apparently very ignorant) Joe Movie-goer (and no, I don't think people are stupid; I think they will know that this doesn't look like Superman)?

 

The basic issue is what works in a comic book, doesn't neccessarily translate to working on a live action motion picture.

 

Again, you don't think that Christopher Reeve's suit (or even Dean Cain's, for that matter) worked? Because I don't think anyone would disagree that they did.

 

These films are being done to appeal to a majority of people, not a dwindling number of hardcore fanboys.

 

You're telling me that the majority of people don't know what Superman looks like? You're telling me that the majority of people haven't seen at least images of Chris Reeve or Dean Cain as Superman? Because if that's the case, then I'm telling you you're crazy. Again, I fail to see the correlation between the comic-accurate Superman suit and not appealing to the majority of people. And, again, this doesn't even begin to get into the problem with the casting.

 

Oh, and last time I checked, Sin City did reasonably well.

 

These films should be taken on their own, not directly tied to any previous work.

 

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That is probably the most nonsensical thing I've ever heard. How can you NOT take into account the source material for a movie when that movie is based upon said source material IN THE FIRST PLACE? If it is wrong to tie it to previous works, then why make a movie based on anything at all? Why make it a Superman folm if I'm not supposed to look to Superman as background for the film itself? That's just ludicrous.

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Yeah, Chris Reeve´s costume was identically to the comic book, but, if Superman existed, he would be invited to conferences, interviews, funerals...would u take seriously a guy with underwear on a spandex suit? I´ve heard tons of jokes about the underpanties, and a hero should impose respect and admiration by his acts, beliefs, etc.

 

True, but we're not talking about real life. We're talking about comic books, and comic book movies.

Yes, comic books translated to real life in a movie.

Movies depict a superhero in a modern and real world.( or age the movie is done in)

Everyone has their opinions. :)

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Yeah, Chris Reeve´s costume was identically to the comic book, but, if Superman existed, he would be invited to conferences, interviews, funerals...would u take seriously a guy with underwear on a spandex suit? I´ve heard tons of jokes about the underpanties, and a hero should impose respect and admiration by his acts, beliefs, etc.

 

True, but we're not talking about real life. We're talking about comic books, and comic book movies.

Yes, comic books translated to real life in a movie.

Movies depict a superhero in a modern and real world.( or age the movie is done in)

Everyone has their opinions. :)

I'm not trying to rake you over the coals or anything, man. The way you feel is the way you feel. I'm just saying that the change to the suit is pretty needless. And as far as realism is concerned, I cite suspension of disbelief and the success of Sin City (both accurate to the graphic novels AND presented in movie form).

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I'm not trying to rake you over the coals or anything, man. The way you feel is the way you feel. I'm just saying that the change to the suit is pretty needless. And as far as realism is concerned, I cite suspension of disbelief and the success of Sin City (both accurate to the graphic novels AND presented in movie form).

ya, i know.

I haven´t read sin city, but, as far as i know they don´t use spandex suits. If they run around in trenchcoats, civies, well, of course it doesn´t change to the adaptation, because is something we are used to see in life. What i say is costumes don´t necessary have to be done the same way as in comic books, but inspired by them. (that´s why i never really dug the x-men outfits).

 

Ultimate universe adapted the suits to our days, updated them, and they still keep their essence. :)

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I'm not really a Superman comic fan so maybe my opinions can do some justice(maybe 0_0)

 

I agree that Superman should have a update for his costume. I beleive that the new generation will laugh at the so called Superman in the movie if he still wears spandex costume from the 60's. A change for the costume is needed despite the fact the the light blue in the new costume doesnt blend with the scarlet red cape and boots. The symbol does looks smaller but we'll get use to it.Its not really an unacceptable small , if u check the comics a few artist did made a smaller logo on Supermans' chest(Jim Lee).

 

To sum up what I'm trying to say, for comic fans that wants to keep the movie adaption of the character 100% same as the comic, I'm sure we can do that by keeping the character,personality setting that same but for the costume or some minor parts , I strongly feel that some modern change/updates are required so that the new generation can accept them. Superman is really superman but that doesnt mean he's super becoz he wears spandex. Batmans also Batman becoz he wears black and white spandex ,its becoz he dresses like a bat like "creature"

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I think alot of these costume designers look at this sorta stuff just as a job , and try to tweak things to give them their personal take on it. Just like writers and directors that like to change stuff about the story because they think it will make it better.

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I'm not trying to rake you over the coals or anything, man.  The way you feel is the way you feel.  I'm just saying that the change to the suit is pretty needless.  And as far as realism is concerned, I cite suspension of disbelief and the success of Sin City (both accurate to the graphic novels AND presented in movie form).

ya, i know.

I haven´t read sin city, but, as far as i know they don´t use spandex suits. If they run around in trenchcoats, civies, well, of course it doesn´t change to the adaptation, because is something we are used to see in life. What i say is costumes don´t necessary have to be done the same way as in comic books, but inspired by them. (that´s why i never really dug the x-men outfits).

 

Ultimate universe adapted the suits to our days, updated them, and they still keep their essence. :)

Well, the issue with Sin City isn't so much the realism in dress as it is in action. Marv is pretty much a walking tank, but he's obviously only human. Dwight can jump out of a six story window and sink into tar for a pretty long period of time and come out no worse for wear. And Hartigan does things that pretty much no person pushing almost seventy could do. Again, it's all pretty much about suspension of disbelief. With regards to outfits, there is such a thing as too much deviation, and then you have the old addage that if it ain't broke, don't fix it. The Superman suit, when it's truly considered, is already quite practical; that is, it is easily hidden, made of a material that seems to be aerodynamic, and it's a pretty simple design. In this case, I fail to see why it was necessary to change the costume for the new film.

 

As far as Ultimates are concerned, it wasn't just the costumes; it was the whole mythos. For me, the jury's still out on Ultimates. I like what I see so far, though.

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I don't think the pictures of the suit are an offical release from WB. These seem to be pictures from the actor's own homepage. Maybe they are intial test shots. Looking at the DVD extras on the original Superman, Reeves was much scrawny when he was doing his test shots. He really bulked up for the movie. Maybe this was an early sample of the suit. They usually make different versions of the costumes until they settle on one they like. Or maybe it's the first suit he wears, kind of an homage to Supes first appearance in Action Comics when the symbol was smaller. Maybe he refines his suit during the movie, kind of like Spider-Man went through a rough version of his final suit.

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I don't think the pictures of the suit are an offical release from WB. These seem to be pictures from the actor's own homepage. Maybe they are intial test shots. Looking at the DVD extras on the original Superman, Reeves was much scrawny when he was doing his test shots. He really bulked up for the movie. Maybe this was an early sample of the suit. They usually make different versions of the costumes until they settle on one they like. Or maybe it's the first suit he wears, kind of an homage to Supes first appearance in Action Comics when the symbol was smaller. Maybe he refines his suit during the movie, kind of like Spider-Man went through a rough version of his final suit.

He can't refine it during the movie, this is a sequal to the last movie without being a sequal, at the begining of the movie, he returns to Earth, just as he left in Superman 3, in fact, it's set six years after SM3, so, I don't have a lot of hope for anything like that, my only hope for this movie is in the Kryptonian life suit to look good and to be the main costume.

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I'm not really a Superman comic fan so maybe my opinions can do some justice(maybe 0_0)

 

I agree that Superman should have a update for his costume. I beleive that the new generation will laugh at the so called Superman in the movie if he still wears spandex costume from the 60's. A change for the costume is needed despite the fact the the light blue in the new costume doesnt blend with the scarlet red cape and boots. The symbol does looks smaller but we'll get use to it.Its not really an unacceptable small , if u check the comics a few artist did made a smaller logo on Supermans' chest(Jim Lee).

 

To sum up what I'm trying to say, for comic fans that wants to keep the movie adaption of the character 100% same as the comic, I'm sure we can do that by keeping the character,personality setting that same but for the costume or some minor parts , I strongly feel that some modern change/updates are required so that the new generation can accept them. Superman is really superman but that doesnt mean he's super becoz he wears spandex. Batmans also Batman becoz he wears black and white spandex ,its becoz he dresses like a bat like "creature"

exactly

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To sum up what I'm trying to say, for comic fans that wants to keep the movie adaption of the character 100% same as the comic, I'm sure we can do that by keeping the character,personality setting that same but for the costume or some minor parts , I strongly feel that some modern change/updates are required so that the new generation can accept them. Superman is really superman but that doesnt mean he's super becoz he wears spandex. Batmans also Batman becoz he wears black and white spandex ,its becoz he dresses like a bat like "creature"

That's a pretty good stance, but there are a few small problems...

 

First, the suit hasn't really been updated, as Singer has said that the inspiration for the suit comes primarily from the old Max Fleischer shorts. Second, what changes they have made to the suit (such as the raised shield) are impractical or needless. Third, the new generation already accepts Superman as-is. Let's face it: the character has gone beyond mere "comic hero" status and has become a cultural icon much in the same way as Mickey Mouse. As such, there is probably not one child out there who doesn't know about Superman. So I doubt that's the reason for the costume change.

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Here's the changes I would make:

 

 

 

Logo bigger, Actor BIGGER, "red undies come higher & belt come higher, colors brightersupermandchangecomp.jpg

I like your changes much better. But maybe the actual one will grow on me. I think Routh looks ok, I'm just curious about his acting ability and how he'll fill the part. I'm so glad they didn't choose Brendan Frazier. It would have been better if they made the kid(?) from Smallville finally grow up and become Superman.

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This is a sequal to the last movie without being a sequal, at the begining of the movie, he returns to Earth, just as he left in Superman 3, in fact, it's set six years after SM3.

Wasn't Superman 4, The Quest for Crap, the last Superman movie? I don't really remember the last shot of Superman 3. I know he beats that Brainiac-esque thing at the end. Then what happens?

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the suit looks great. maybe make the emblem bigger, but other than that, the suit couldn't be better. in fact, it's much better than the christopher reeves suit.

 

and for those of you complaining about where the cape is sewn on, the size of the underpants, and the fabric of the cape...get a life! who cares where the cape is sewn on...a cape is a cape. and do you folks really want to see supes running around in granny panties? i sure as hell don't, but if you do, then please keep your masturbatory mandatories to your selves. and cocerning the heavy material of the cape...superman doesn't fly around at 30 mph guys. he's moving faster than a speeding bullet. a lighter material isn't gonna flow in wind like some of you are demanding when you're moving that fast, so for those of you who are all about melding realism and comics, a heavy leathery cape is just what the doctor ordered because it will flow smoothly at great speeds. and i know that all of the flying will be cgi, but i'm throwing this out there for you "the suit doesn't look practical" folks.

 

all of that being said, this movie will be fantastic...it will break records...and you naysayers will be eating crow come june 2006.

 

zito

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Kind of funny how a guy complains about others complaining about details then debates the physics of cape material.

To clarify a couple of things, making the shorts larger and having them come up to where most folks wear pants (unless you're a gay stripper) you shorten the torso and give him a stronger, broader look and widening the logo helps with that too. Brightening the colors gives him a more heroic look, this IS a man that seeks the spotlight, not one that hides from it. By widening the collar it makes things easier to wear OVER the suit and by making the cape a lighter weight material, it's also more easilty concealed (and if you want to debat physics, keep in mind this is a freaking man who can FLY, BURN THINGS WITH HIS EYES, MOVE PLANETS, SEE THROUGH THINGS AND FREEZE THINGS WITH HIS BREATH, do you really think ANY earthly material would last long on him. If he uses kryptonian fabric to make the clothing and it's light weight, then the cape can be lightweight too)

 

Overall, I'm guardedly optimistic about this movie, but I'll just have to wait and see, I just wish Brian Singer hadn't made the costume look like a bad Halloween costume.

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I really like it. It has that 1930's sci-fi feel to it (and lest we forget Superman is a 1930's sci-fi character)

 

It has a retro feel to it, as well as a modern take on the costume.

 

At first I too thought it didn't look "homemade" enough, but Ma Kent made his 1st costume...this story takes place after Supes is well established...giving him time to modify his costume.

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