Thanks Alot Ya Bunch Of Phony Batman Fans!

[Matthew Green]

This is JUST great....Mattel feels that since the crappy animated line is doing SO well, that the 6" comic-accurate line has been dropped altogether...That's right...Bane and Scarecrow will ONLY be sold overseas and very select comic markets but not at U.S. retailers...

 

The curse of the NON-comic accurate Batman strikes again!!!

 

I haven't bought anything Batmanish, since Killer Croc came out...So I guess Mattel STILL won't get my money...

 

Enjoy you guys that pine over the ridiculous designs by Matsuda and his cronies! Toybiz can do COMIC-accurate figures, Hasbro can do movie accurate figures, Hell JAKKS can do accurate wrestlers but NOT MATTEL!!!

 

Maybe one day in a far off place SOME guy at DC will want to do comic-accurate figures for the Mass retailer instead of gouging it's fans at DC Direct by paying over inflated prices for their characters which I will not pay for!

[Amazing Spiderman]

This is new to me, where did you hear this from? If this is true, this would definately suck!!

[rodimusconvoy21]

This is NOT new to me, lets look at the facts.

 

If this is truth, we really havent seen a lot of new characters from that line beides Killer Croc, Bruce Wayne and the blue Nightwing. The releasing pace was very slow too, so I was afraid that something like that would happen, again, thats what I thing.

[Jack]

It might have helped if Mattel would have had better packing ratios. 10 Batman and 2 other figures per case will not work. Everyone who has an IQ over 80 should know that. They screwed up MOTU, and now this. Morons.

[Darren]

Eh...no big surprise to me at least.Mattel DOES NOT handle their collectable toy lines well at all.Unless,it has the name "Barbie" attached to it.

 

Mattel has absolutely no connection to their audiences like Hasbro does with GI Joe (through the Joecon) and Transformers (also through Takara and Japan as well)...and even Toy Biz (They're owned by Marvel).Mattel has buried themselves with stuff like this and they're just digging that hole even deeper.

 

What amazes me is how DC tolerates this.

[rodimusconvoy21]

I think Mattel is better than toybiz, despite the problems they had handeling MOTU/Batman line. At least the are doing somthing good with the new Batman line and Justice League.

[Cloud]

This is JUST great....Mattel feels that since the crappy animated line is doing SO well, that the 6" comic-accurate line has been dropped altogether...That's right...Bane and Scarecrow will ONLY be sold overseas and very select comic markets but not at U.S. retailers...

 

The curse of the NON-comic accurate Batman strikes again!!!

 

I haven't bought anything Batmanish, since Killer Croc came out...So I guess Mattel STILL won't get my money...

 

Enjoy you guys that pine over the ridiculous designs by Matsuda and his cronies! Toybiz can do COMIC-accurate figures, Hasbro can do movie accurate figures, Hell JAKKS can do accurate wrestlers but NOT MATTEL!!!

 

Maybe one day in a far off place SOME guy at DC will want to do comic-accurate figures for the Mass retailer instead of gouging it's fans at DC Direct by paying over inflated prices for their characters which I will not pay for!

so your're surprised for this......

interesting!

You must have loved the Batman varients a lot.

 

 

Just face it the ratios for The Batman line is a whole lot better than 6" Batman line.

 

The only reason to blame is Mattel.

Look at toybiz or playmates, they dont make varients as much as the 6" Batman line.

So far look at what's been released Zip line Batman,Robin,Joker,Mr.Freeze,Killer Croc or maybe count Bruce Wayne and the Blue/Yellow Night Wing.

Come on! compare it with Marvel Legends or other comic based figure series. Mattel deffinately suck!!!!!!

We cant't help that.

 

You know, this line can continue or sell quite well if they have more characters INSTEAD of Batman being released.

[azrael23]

Maybe one day in a far off place SOME guy at DC will want to do comic-accurate figures for the Mass retailer instead of gouging it's fans at DC Direct by paying over inflated prices for their characters which I will not pay for!

If this has truth to it, then I'm glad I abandoned this

line a long time ago. This should come as no surprise

to us, for it was bound to happen.

 

I do disagree with you though concerning DC Direct. The

figures may be expensive, but they are worth it in terms of sculpting, character selection

and more easy to obtain. Mattels line was over-priced as well especially for the mass, deluxe

figures were almost as much as DCD figures.

 

I would rather put a few more extra dollars towards getting excellent comic-accurate characters

than 13 dollars worth of batmen figures with weird weaponry and colors, plus you don't have to go on a toy-hunt that spans over 5 different cities or counties for a secondary figure that is packed one per-case.

[rodimusconvoy21]

This is JUST great....Mattel feels that since the crappy animated line is doing SO well, that the 6" comic-accurate line has been dropped altogether...That's right...Bane and Scarecrow will ONLY be sold overseas and very select comic markets but not at U.S. retailers...

 

The curse of the NON-comic accurate Batman strikes again!!!

 

I haven't bought anything Batmanish, since Killer Croc came out...So I guess Mattel STILL won't get my money...

 

Enjoy you guys that pine over the ridiculous designs by Matsuda and his cronies!  Toybiz can do COMIC-accurate figures, Hasbro can do movie accurate figures, Hell JAKKS can do accurate wrestlers but NOT MATTEL!!!

 

Maybe one day in a far off place SOME guy at DC will want to do comic-accurate figures for the Mass retailer instead of gouging it's fans at DC Direct by paying over inflated prices for their characters which I will not pay for!

so your're surprised for this......

interesting!

You must have loved the Batman varients a lot.

 

 

Just face it the ratios for The Batman line is a whole lot better than 6" Batman line.

 

The only reason to blame is Mattel.

Look at toybiz or playmates, they dont make varients as much as the 6" Batman line.

So far look at what's been released Zip line Batman,Robin,Joker,Mr.Freeze,Killer Croc or maybe count Bruce Wayne and the Blue/Yellow Night Wing.

Come on! compare it with Marvel Legends or other comic based figure series. Mattel deffinately suck!!!!!!

We cant't help that.

 

You know, this line can continue or sell quite well if they have more characters INSTEAD of Batman being released.

Well said. Btw you forgot that they released Superman and a black suited Nightwing as part of the line.

[reideen1313]

This is JUST great....Mattel feels that since the crappy animated line is doing SO well, that the 6" comic-accurate line has been dropped altogether...That's right...Bane and Scarecrow will ONLY be sold overseas and very select comic markets but not at U.S. retailers...

 

The curse of the NON-comic accurate Batman strikes again!!!

 

I haven't bought anything Batmanish, since Killer Croc came out...So I guess Mattel STILL won't get my money...

 

Enjoy you guys that pine over the ridiculous designs by Matsuda and his cronies! Toybiz can do COMIC-accurate figures, Hasbro can do movie accurate figures, Hell JAKKS can do accurate wrestlers but NOT MATTEL!!!

 

Maybe one day in a far off place SOME guy at DC will want to do comic-accurate figures for the Mass retailer instead of gouging it's fans at DC Direct by paying over inflated prices for their characters which I will not pay for!

Um....that's not what was said. It's close, but, it's your twisting of the facts, since you seem to have an issue with the new 'toon and Matsuda's designs. You don't like the show. Great. We know that. Get over it.

 

As far as the "news" in the post, first of all, I don't know at this point if that information that was posted at RTM was accurate or not. Secondly, the person that posted that news said they were working on some kind of arrangement - I'm guessing that Diamond would pick up the figures, if not some other retailer picking them up as an exclusive. It should not come as any suprise that the comic line has been on hiatus, since I've explained it numerous times here. The focus is on the animated property, since that's where the advertising is at right now. It's a pretty common business practice when it comes to toy sales in today's market.

 

Here's the full post for those that may not have seen it.

 

2004 - this Fall was all about the Aniamted series, although we still developed the 6" basic, deluxe and 2-packs. However most of the retailers moved their focus to the animated series.

 

Spring 2005 - the 6" line will still exist internationally and with some Diamond exclusives. Working  on some programs with several other retailers. The Spring figs of Bane, ManBat and the hyperarticulated Batman will be part of these plans. The 2-packs will still be seen at Target only. The 4H have still been helping us develop mos tof this line.

 

The Animated series will continue to the be the key focus for most retailers. However in April the new Batman Begins product line will hit. The movie is great and both lines will continue all year.

 

and a link if you want to read it for yourselves: http://www.banned/toybuzz/messages/24670.shtml

 

 

Look at it this way. Most fans of the MOTU property screamed that Mattel did not properly support the animated show with commercials for the toys, etc, yet, when Mattel does support the animated property, we have people like Matthew that scream anyway. I guess it just goes to show that you can't please everyone, all the time. Since the show is doing well in it's demographic group and the sales on the toyline are going pretty well, I guess it shows that Mattel knows what they're doing.

[azrael23]

Look at it this way. Most fans of the MOTU property screamed that Mattel did not properly support the animated show with commercials for the toys, etc, yet, when Mattel does support the animated property, we have people like Matthew that scream anyway. I guess it just goes to show that you can't please everyone, all the time. Since the show is doing well in it's demographic group and the sales on the toyline are going pretty well, I guess it shows that Mattel knows what they're doing.

You have a fine point there, BUT I believe fans would rather

have prefered all that success and effort go either towards MOTU or

Batman the comic inspired line. Personally I like the new animated cartoon

and the toys are okay too, but this should have been done for MOTU and it wasn't.

 

The comic Batman could have been very successful as well, but now it all watered down

with just Batman figures, Mattel had already had their plate full with other Batmen line and they

took another, and now one has to be put on hold while the other one is being promoted.

 

The line will soon fade away after awhile, i'm starting to see the subtle effects now, more pegs are being reserved for the new animated line.

[Y2Bogus]

The sooner Mattel goes under, the better. The current state of case ratios of Mattel and Toybiz are beyond rediculous, and I hope they get punished by the market. Hasbro can keep a good assortment of GI Joes and Transformers on the shelves. I can find just about any Teen Titans set at almost any store. But whenever I'm looking for Justice League, all I see are pegs of Flash, Green Lantern, and Batman. When I look for ML, all I see are Wolverines and the occasional Iron Man and Punisher. I used to collect Spider-Man classics, but I was tired of finding nothing but Blingwad Spider-Man. I won't even bring up Hulk Classics. Frankly, I hope they both go under. It will be no one's fault but their own.

[Cloud]

Actaully , what is the point of making these silly ratios?

It's not like there products can sell better.

[reideen1313]

So...is that the answer? Simply fix the case ratios and everything will be all better?

[Matthew Green]

Look at it this way. Most fans of the MOTU property screamed that Mattel did not properly support the animated show with commercials for the toys, etc, yet, when Mattel does support the animated property, we have people like Matthew that scream anyway. 

 

Don't lump me in with the MOTU people...I am not people with loincloths....I am a comic-accurate Batman fan. We've had the animated stuff since 1992...It's old and tired. You don't see Toybiz doing this crap. We get comic-accurate figures with them and such a variety. Mattel doesn't HAVE to make endless Batman variants and one villain per wave. It's YOU people that support them doing it. I WON'T buy any of the new animated figures just because they are there. I want comic-accurate stuff. DC direct has done some, but again too expensive. A comic-accurate Batman line CAN sell at mass retailers. No one has the balls to put one out there though.

 

I only bought Joker, Croc, Robin, and Freeze...

 

**Edited By HardRockBatman00 for language abuse**

[azrael23]

MOTU is the perfect example and mirror to the Batman line.

.

 

Its not that no one has the balls to do a Batman line, its just that

many are not done properly. Its a known fact that Batman products can sell,

after all he has a comic, an animated cartoon and a movie coming out.

 

As I stated before, if you want a comic accurate line your best bet is DC Direct

for now, that is until someone will mass produce them for lower prices, because Mattel

isn't getting the job done. You can't have your cake and eat it too, either you get what Mattel

is dishing out, or go with expensive DCD or take nothing.

[Jeff]

LOL you guys are getting upset over something some imposter who claims to be a Mattel rep on RTM said. Hey I got some swampland to sell you guys, real cheap @loll@

[Matthew Green]

take nothing.

 

Exactly...I'll take nothing...Haven't had anything since the Super Powers line that was comic-accurate as far as DC goes...Yet, Marvel has been doing it for years...

 

I'll bide my time and maybe when I'm 50, some toy company will put out proper Batman product.

 

Ok Jeff...I'll call your bluff...If the comic-accurate Batman continues then I'll eat my crow next year. If it doesn't, YOU have to publically eat crow...Agreed?

[Jeff]

Well we dont need some dumbass acting like a mattel rep posting on a message board to tell us that the future of the 6" line is not so bright. We can just look at this past year to come to that conclusion so no bet there but, you guys are acting like this guy is legit when he's just some smuck looking to get people in an uproar like point in case here.

[Jeff]

Also with the movie coming out im sure thats were Mattel's focus will be.

[Cloud]

So...is that the answer? Simply fix the case ratios and everything will be all better?

Yup

At least the figures that people want can sell better.

But still I dont think it helps the batman varients

[azrael23]

take nothing.

 

Exactly...I'll take nothing...Haven't had anything since the Super Powers line that was comic-accurate as far as DC goes...Yet, Marvel has been doing it for years...

 

I'll bide my time and maybe when I'm 50, some toy company will put out proper Batman product.

 

Ok Jeff...I'll call your bluff...If the comic-accurate Batman continues then I'll eat my crow next year. If it doesn't, YOU have to publically eat crow...Agreed?

 

Lets hope it doesn't take until you are 50,

 

Well as far as comic accurate lines go, DC Direct

may win hands down because they offer a much broader

variety of comic based figures, certain artist renditions,mini-series

as well as characters that are from the silver age to modern age renditions.

 

Marvel on the other hand doesn't really do that. As of late Toybiz has really been

giving collectors a hard time in collecting the Legends line and their case ratios is becoming

as bad as Mattels, if TB keeps this up then ML will tank sooner or later

[Ren]

I heard that if The Batman series interest wanes, then they will increase production on the 6" line. <<FYI>> the 6" inch Batmobile is on sale a K-Mart for $9.99.

[reideen1313]

We can just look at this past year to come to that conclusion so no bet there but, you guys are acting like this guy is legit when he's just some smuck looking to get people in an uproar like point in case here.

That's what I've been saying for months. Yet still we hear Matthew "Boo hoo. No comic accurate Batman. Mattel is evil. Boo hoo" Green crying all the time.

 

I'll tell you what Matthew - if the only figures you've picked up since the Super Powers line are Joker, Croc, Freeze and Robin - you are part of the reason the line didn't sell like it should have. You are a fair weather fan and I feel no sorrow for you not getting the line that you want. If Toy Biz is the band aid that cures all ills in the action figure world, why are you here? Go to the Marvel forum and talk about the Marvel Legends line. I'm sure you'll be able to jump right in and pick up all the figures you want right away. While you're out buying all those figures, pick me up a Dark Phoenix - she's a current figure, she should be in ample supply at Walmart or Target, right? Get me a Vision figure too - oh and a Deadpool. Thanks. You're the best.

 

 

What's that? You won't? You can't?!? Maybe that's because their case ratios suck and their "variant" figure concept blows? They are the ones that I feel are responsible for the current "chase figure in every ratio" mentality that retailers have right now. I can hear it now "I don't like Marvel characters though. I want Batman." If that's the case, then stop bringing up Toy Biz. They had their shot at Batman and it was horrible. The figures they put out weren't "comic accurate" either, now were they?

 

You want comic accurate? Buy minimates. Right now, they are the best shot that you will have at getting anything that is even remotely close to comic accurate.

[Matthew Green]

Minimates SURE as heck aren't comic accurate...They look WAY to anime' and japanese for me. You are right about Marvel characters though...I don't buy them but SEE them every time I'm at Toys R Us...Good looking COMIC-ACCURATE figures. Fair weather fan huh? I'll take that as a compliment. Just because MOST here buy a pile of doo-doo with Bat ears on it and feel very satisfied that it represents Batman doesn't make ME not buying that crap justified in why Mattel or any other toy company doesn't put out comic-accurate Batman universe figures...If the people would'nt buy the newest version of Neon pink Batman, MAYBE just maybe a toy company would come along and realize the mistake of doing figures like that and put out comic-accurate figures but as long as YOU support it, the neon pink will ALWAYS be around...Hell, it's been around more than a decade now and I hope that you are happy having invested alot of money into what is NOT Batman...Fair weather? How about caring what Batman is supposed to look like....

 

I have faith that someday a comic-accurate line will be made. It took Toybiz long enough...One day on the pegs of mass retailers there will be Ventriloquist, Mr. ZsasZ, and Calender Man....Like I said earlier, I just hope I'm not 50 when it happens...