Nitpicking...

[J_Rek_Vandekar]

This board has been quiet a while, so I thought I might try and stir things up a bit.

 

Let me start by picking apart the worst Trek film to date:

 

Star Trek V: The Final Frontier (appologies to William Shatner)

 

Why I hated this film:

 

1) The story was far-fetched even for the sci-fi genre. Without a good story, your movie is doomed from the start.

 

2) Was it me, or did most of the crew seem almost drunk during the film? Lines were slurred, and there seemed to be a lack of emotion with the regulars. James Doohan seemed to be doing almost a parody rather than a true portrayal of a character he should indeed know like the "back of his hand."

 

3) It would take Captain Janeway and the rest of the crew of the Starship Voyager over 70 years to get from the Delta Quadrant to the Alpha Quadrant. But Kirk can reach the center of the gallaxy in a matter of hours! Maybe they just don't make starships like they used to.

 

4) In the scene where Bones Spock & Kirk are in the turbolift shaft, we see that the Enterprise A has a staggering 80+ decks. (Picard's much larger Enterprise D only has 42.) Over 80 decks on a Constitution Class Refit Starship? It's possible. But the decks would have to be about two feet tall.

 

This stuff just bugs the crap out of me every occasion I watch it. (Which is rare) Star Trek fans are known to pay close attention to detail. Point 3 & 4 show either that a slopshod unorganized job was done with the filming, or that after filming the powers that be thought the fans would be "too stupid to notice" (The latter is an impression that I come away with after each viewing.)

 

J'Rek Vandekar

 

PS: The Enterprise A's shuttle bay is also way too small when compaired to the shuttle bay from Star Trek: The Motion Picture.

[ARROW]

Gene Roddenberry himself said that Star Trek V was apocryphal--it never happened.

 

Chalk it up to a Romulan Ale induced hallucination by the campfire.

 

One of the decks, IIRC said Deck 172--I caught that right away and about a dozen other people in the theatreaudience called it out loud when I saw it first time.

Never saw so many people up and walking out of a movie before or since.

 

 

Most of the literature including Andy Proberts own design sketches say the movie Enterprise has only about 26-28 Decks.

 

Interesting side note: I'm told there's only a very few instances with scenes in the turbo lifts that actually have the car travel corrsepond with the layout of the ship.

If you follow the flashes of light in the "window" panels and their direction of travel--it SHOULD indicate where the car has travelled from and where it should be.

More often that not they do this wrong.

 

I cannot remember where I saw this at work myself--whether it was a movie or TV episode ,might have been TNG--but I do remember one time that the tubro lift car travelled from..........might have been enginneering to the bridge, and during the dialogue its travel matched the ships layout.

 

 

It a kind of detail that is nice to have in the background, must almost no-one else would give a hoot about it.

 

 

--Ken

[J_Rek_Vandekar]

Interesting observations, my friend.

 

In one of the TNG episodes that LeVar Burton directed, (can't remember which one) the base of the camera tripod can clearly be seen just as the turbolift doors shut.

 

I have a copy of STII TWOK that I got from Best Buy. (It's not the 2 disk delux edition.) There is a sequence toward the end when the Enterprise delivers the fatal blow to the Reliant, destroying it's port engine nacelle.

 

Kirk says: "Fire!"

 

The shot changes to Checkov's thumb pressing the Photon Torpedo fire button on the torpedo joystick control.

 

Then an image of Kirk appears for a split second (it's the same image from the second "Fire!" order of this sequence.

 

The 2nd Kirk image is only on the screen for about 2 frames. But it was not in the original VHS version.

 

J'Rek Vandekar

[Shadow4196]

I would have to agree with J'Rek on this one. Star Trek V was really bad. The search for God? Come on. You need a better premise than that. The movie was full of errors. I really didn't care for it at all.

 

Shadow