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Target Responds to Backlash Over Thanksgiving Night Black Friday Sale

#1 User is offline   Wheeljack35 

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 12:50 PM

http://www.dailyfina...26pLid%3D235560

Target is pushing back against complaints that its Thanksgiving evening opening is ruining employees' holiday.

The retailer announced on Monday that its Black Friday sale will start the evening before, with doors set to open at 9 p.m. Target (TGT) is one of a number of retailers kicking things off early: Walmart (WMT), Sears (SHLD), Kmart and Toys R Us will all get the bargain surge started an hour earlier, at 8 p.m.

But Target has come in for particularly harsh criticism after a petition against the early opening at online petition site Change.org went viral. Titled "Target: Take the high road and save Thanksgiving," it has been signed by more than 228,000 users as of Friday morning.

The campaign was kicked off by Change.org user "C Renee," who identifies herself as longtime Target employee who lives in Corona, Calif. She says that Thanksgiving is the one day she has available to relax and spend time with family and friends, and pleads with Target CEO Gregg W. Steinhafel to hold off the opening until early the next morning.

In the letter/petition she asks people to sign, she writes: "A 9pm opening disgusts me and symbolizes everything that is wrong with this country. Give Thanksgiving back to families."


Funny I haven't heard this before or a complaint about Walmart either

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 04:56 PM

Does it stink that some people have to give up their evenings with family? Yeah. But we have to look in the mirror when trying to place the blame. I'm willing to bet that a good portion of those 228,000 that signed that petition will be willing to leave their families at home and be there at 9 o'clock ready to trample the weak under their feet to get that great deal on a TV.

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 08:06 AM

I would work thats because it is tine and a half...Plus really how many of us really want to stay with our families?

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 08:18 AM

You see this story every year now. Where did these people think they were working? It's retail and this is the biggest day of the year for them. Show me the company that isn't going to ask their employees to come in and work on their biggest day, retail or otherwise.

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 08:26 AM

View Postyojoebro82, on 18 November 2012 - 08:18 AM, said:

You see this story every year now. Where did these people think they were working? It's retail and this is the biggest day of the year for them. Show me the company that isn't going to ask their employees to come in and work on their biggest day, retail or otherwise.


I have worked at Target and other big retail stores...There are NO personal days or vacations allowed this time of year

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 04:15 PM

I think those Target employees are upset that they won't be able to go black friday shopping because they will be working


it's sucks.. but it is what it is. You can't expect one retailer to sit back and let all the others win the biggest day of the year

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 08:31 PM

View PostCLAM, on 18 November 2012 - 04:15 PM, said:

I think those Target employees are upset that they won't be able to go black friday shopping because they will be working


it's sucks.. but it is what it is. You can't expect one retailer to sit back and let all the others win the biggest day of the year


They are told weeks ahead of time about this so they can't act like it just was sprung onto them

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 07:53 PM

I don't know why people are complaining. If people aren't going to shop in a physical store,they'll just buy it on line.

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 08:19 PM

From what I hear out of the over 1.5 million employees that Walmart has there are only 1500 protesting I want to see these people try toget in the way of the avergae Joe trying to get a TV before it sells out

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 11:30 PM

I can't believe there are also idiots protesting Cyber Monday.

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 11:37 AM

View Posthamsterboy, on 22 November 2012 - 11:30 PM, said:

I can't believe there are also idiots protesting Cyber Monday.



LOL How and where do they protest that? :P

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 01:25 PM

Like I said,they're a bunch of idiots.

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 03:25 PM

View Posthamsterboy, on 23 November 2012 - 01:25 PM, said:

Like I said,they're a bunch of idiots.



I was just watching Blazing Saddles they remind me of the people of Rock Ridge

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 03:59 PM

you want holidays off, then get a better job. don't work at target or walmart and complain about it.

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 07:51 PM

View Postjjlecaros, on 24 November 2012 - 03:59 PM, said:

you want holidays off, then get a better job. don't work at target or walmart and complain about it.


I worked for Target and other Big retail stores there are no vacations and personal off days allowed this time of year

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 08:35 PM

Not all of those retailers pay time and a half for holidays either.

In a couple years this will be a non story and retailers will then begin their day after Christmas sales at 8pm Christmas night.

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 09:14 PM

View Post2slowbot, on 24 November 2012 - 08:35 PM, said:

Not all of those retailers pay time and a half for holidays either.

In a couple years this will be a non story and retailers will then begin their day after Christmas sales at 8pm Christmas night.



They have to its the law

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 04:21 AM

View PostWheeljack35, on 24 November 2012 - 07:51 PM, said:

View Postjjlecaros, on 24 November 2012 - 03:59 PM, said:

you want holidays off, then get a better job. don't work at target or walmart and complain about it.


I worked for Target and other Big retail stores there are no vacations and personal off days allowed this time of year



so? that's pretty much a given

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 07:16 PM

View PostWheeljack35, on 24 November 2012 - 09:14 PM, said:

View Post2slowbot, on 24 November 2012 - 08:35 PM, said:

Not all of those retailers pay time and a half for holidays either.

In a couple years this will be a non story and retailers will then begin their day after Christmas sales at 8pm Christmas night.



They have to its the law


Actually, not all employers do. The law is different state to state. They don't have to pay anything extra for holidays here in Montana.

I'm kind of disappointed in the "Don't like it? Get a different job." attitudes that some people have regarding this issue. The fact is, someone has to work these jobs. I personally don't think ANY businesses should be open on Thanksgiving or Christmas...especially retailers. It's not a necessity, and is all about greed. People should get to spend time with their families on these days, and relax...away from the BS that goes along with working with the public.

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 08:54 PM

View PostDarthJoe, on 25 November 2012 - 07:16 PM, said:

View PostWheeljack35, on 24 November 2012 - 09:14 PM, said:

View Post2slowbot, on 24 November 2012 - 08:35 PM, said:

Not all of those retailers pay time and a half for holidays either.

In a couple years this will be a non story and retailers will then begin their day after Christmas sales at 8pm Christmas night.



They have to its the law


Actually, not all employers do. The law is different state to state. They don't have to pay anything extra for holidays here in Montana.

I'm kind of disappointed in the "Don't like it? Get a different job." attitudes that some people have regarding this issue. The fact is, someone has to work these jobs. I personally don't think ANY businesses should be open on Thanksgiving or Christmas...especially retailers. It's not a necessity, and is all about greed. People should get to spend time with their families on these days, and relax...away from the BS that goes along with working with the public.


Agreed on both points.

Florida appears to in the same boat regarding holiday pay.
Getting a different job in some areas is easier said than done when unemployment is 10%+ and not going to get any better soon.

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 09:01 PM

View Post2slowbot, on 25 November 2012 - 08:54 PM, said:

View PostDarthJoe, on 25 November 2012 - 07:16 PM, said:

View PostWheeljack35, on 24 November 2012 - 09:14 PM, said:

View Post2slowbot, on 24 November 2012 - 08:35 PM, said:

Not all of those retailers pay time and a half for holidays either.

In a couple years this will be a non story and retailers will then begin their day after Christmas sales at 8pm Christmas night.



They have to its the law


Actually, not all employers do. The law is different state to state. They don't have to pay anything extra for holidays here in Montana.

I'm kind of disappointed in the "Don't like it? Get a different job." attitudes that some people have regarding this issue. The fact is, someone has to work these jobs. I personally don't think ANY businesses should be open on Thanksgiving or Christmas...especially retailers. It's not a necessity, and is all about greed. People should get to spend time with their families on these days, and relax...away from the BS that goes along with working with the public.


Agreed on both points.

Florida appears to in the same boat regarding holiday pay.
Getting a different job in some areas is easier said than done when unemployment is 10%+ and not going to get any better soon.


People who live in the north east will know this store...Back in the late 90's I was the toy dept mgr at a store called Caldors and for two years in a row we opened on Thanksgiving Day.. I didn't like it but eh the whole day I think we had a total of 50 customers in the first year It was rally boring but they dropped it after the second year...The stores are doing this because the competitors are doing it.I think it was Kmart last year that did this.And now they all follow.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 03:39 AM

I've worked retail including target, kb toys, tru and Macy's......all of those jobs from the start tell you no time off from Nov to jan because of the holiday season. Everyone also had to work Black Friday, mandatory for everyone. It's part of the job, if you can't handle that then quit. You don't see cops, firefighters, dr/nurses complain about having to work holidays.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 08:30 AM

Exactly, I work at Gamestop and starting Nov. 1st you get a blackout period where no vacations can be taken until around end of january/beginning of february(christmas around here lasts until january 8th). There was a time where I was working at both Kmart and Gamestop and I had to work Thanksgiving day from 5 to 10pm, the next day(black friday) I worked from 6 am to 11 pm between the two stores. Working Holidays in retail is nothing new besides what about fast food employees who don't get holidays off or even worse soldiers who are deployed who have no chance of seeing their families on the Holidays. I'm sorry but to me these employees are being a bunch of whiners, they should be grateful they at least have jobs.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 10:51 PM

next year the sales will start the day before thanksgiving... they already had a bunch of online sales this year on thanksgiving eve


btw.. gamestop had a horrible blackfriday ad this year! they sucked

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 08:19 AM

View PostCLAM, on 27 November 2012 - 10:51 PM, said:

next year the sales will start the day before thanksgiving... they already had a bunch of online sales this year on thanksgiving eve


btw.. gamestop had a horrible blackfriday ad this year! they sucked



lol tell me about it, I saw the flyer and I thought: meh. My boss tried to convince me that we had good deals and gave up after 10 minutes of my facial expression not changing. Maybe I'm getting too old and grouchy for my job.

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