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Toy Fair 2009: G.I. Joe - The Rise Of Cobra Figures And More

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Posted 18 February 2009 - 10:40 PM

After looking at the figs I will most likely pick up Cover Girl, Heavy Duty, Desert Ambush Duke (has potential for a regular "soldier" type), Zartan (everyone needs a little Imhotep in their Cobra forces) and Eddie Gurrero for that Latino Heat action.

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Posted 18 February 2009 - 11:29 PM

View PostDarthJoe, on Feb 19 2009, 03:36 AM, said:

View PostDevil Bat, on Feb 18 2009, 04:44 PM, said:

But sometimes, that's exactly what I want to see when I go to the movies, something that's just cool to watch. Not something that's a profound, moving, artsy statement that I think some people are wanting or expected with G.I. Joe.


I may be bitching and griping about little things here and there, but this is what I really want. Something that is just fun and entertaining.

When early information about the movie started coming out, I started having Street Fighter flashbacks, and feared the worst for this movie. However, after seeing the Superbowl trailer, if the actual movie is anywhere near as cool as that trailer looked, I'll probably enjoy the movie. It won't be the GI Joe that I know and love, but it will still be a fun movie to watch.


I agree man. You've hit the proverbial nail right on the head. And I too wasn't real keen on a couple of those early pics we saw; like you said the backdrop some of the characters were photographed in looked like a closed, cheap set, ala Street Fighter The Movie. (Y'know, as infamous as that movie was, I've never seen it. I have a soft spot in my heart for incredibly bad movies. I really need to see it so I can refer to it in earnest when lambasting another movie.) (lol) But at the same time I've tried to remain positive and keep an open mind, and when I saw the Super Bowl spot, I was glad I did. I got even more excited than I already was. I even like the title, when at first I didn't. I used to think it leaned more towards "G.I. Joe vs. Cobra" or "Valor vs. Venom". But now I think "Rise of Cobra" just sounds cool and ominous.

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Posted 19 February 2009 - 01:45 AM

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View Postyojoebro82, on Feb 15 2009, 09:15 AM, said:

Uh ohhhhhh........I'm sensing less and less movie hate.

It would be shocking if Joe fans turned into the Transformers fans of a couple years ago. Just shocking...

Ya, I don't see any more "Top 10 reasons the Joe movie is going to suck" threads. @smilepunch@


Mmmmm Hmmmm...We're 22 posts into a thread about the movie and no gripes about black Rip Cords or murdered childhoods. Interesting...


Why beat a dead horse? ;)

y'know that you mention it... Really i think it's because this thread is about the toys not just the movie, i'm judging those seperately honestly. Some movie toys are cool, i still think the movie was poorly conceived and will sadly fail.


If you're looking for controversy, I can sure provide!

I kept my mouth shut earlier when asking about 'Spc Altitude', but if you really want to open that can o' worms, I'd be only too happy to oblige!


Well... Now you've piqued my curiosity so please. Let 'er rip!


It's just the eternal argument over what we grew up with versus what they've decided to change. Why not just give the 'new' Ripcord a different name?



I was thinking the same thing. Before we knew, I was thinking Ripcord's job was important to the story (ie. H.A.L.O. Jumper)....then it turns out he's a PILOT (and what does a pilot need with a gun bigger than him?). So, given that, why not Ace? Slipstream? Hell, Countdown, Payload, Keel-Haul, Skystriker, or even Windmill.

My other thinking as to why they called him Ripcord was because they intended to do do Ripcord in the 25th and there weren't a lot of unused names floating around. It has happened before (though, off the top of my head, I can't remember whom it was).

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Posted 19 February 2009 - 01:54 AM

Im going to pass on this stuff, but i think its an A+ movie line. Considering some of the crap movies pump out, this is great. If i was 10 years old id be all over it!

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Posted 19 February 2009 - 02:18 AM

I'll say this about "Black Ripcord" (to use the example). There are PLENTY of characters in the G.I. Joe universe (race not withstanding) that you still have to wonder why they chose certain characters. Why is Ripcord in the movie? Based on Cover Girl's gear, she doesn't appear to be a tank driver and/or mechanic (well maybe you need a laptop for that?) so why is she in the movie? They wanted another female character, which is fine, but I'm betting they did like they did with her in the DD comics and made her an intelligence operative @rolleye@ (which, of course, destroyed the character) which if that's true....why not just make her Lady Jaye?

Basically speaking, there are plenty of characters to "fill the positons", artistic license or not.

That having been said, thing is, these figures are DIFFERENT ENOUGH to be anyone you want. I know I'm guilty of it myself with Transformers when they repaint a guy as the same guy when theyc an easily call hims something else (for example, Energon Ironhide was repainted in green, coulda been Hound. Or Cyberton Brakedown was repainted like Kup and coulda been Kup instead of of "Brakedown GTS").

Don't like "Black Ripcord"? NAME HIM SOMETHING ELSE! There are only 4 characters in there that would be difficult to "recast" in your own Joeverse (Storm Shadow, Snake Eyes, Cobra Commander, Baroness). Maybe Destro too if he wears the mask.

But even then it depends on how Destro's mask looks. If it looks...different enough, you could have him be 25th Darklon. Baroness could be 25th Chameleon.

But Duke, Hawk, Breaker, etc. Do they resemble their other versions?

Well let me answer that with this: Does Battle Corpse Duke or Duke version 3 resemble "classic" Duke (or each other)? Does Hawk version 1 resemble Hawk version 2?

There are only 2 problems I have (well 3, based on the pics, they aren't really "aesthetically pleasing" yet):

1) Just the shear number of versions of a lot of these guys makes it difficult to rename them. I mean RAH Flint had 3 different versions (not counting Tiger Force), so if one of them is Flint...who are the other two? Now multiply that by 100+.

2) I can understand the need to include spring loaded missiles...But why the hell are the so BIG? Snake Eye's launcher, for example, is LITERALLY bigger than he is! I don't believe any of those guys can even hold their launchers (Salvo didn't have it that easy).

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Look, at it. she can't even HOLD the thing. Are these things suposed to be vehicle mounted (ala sound attack)?

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Posted 19 February 2009 - 07:11 AM

View PostViper Hunter, on Feb 18 2009, 09:44 PM, said:

Hey, you're the one doing all the b!tching and complaining about the many fans of G.I.Joe and how unappreciative of Hasbro and everything they don't do for them, you think they are, not me. I like the company here of most my fellow comrades in the G.I.Joe collecting commuinty and put myself on an equal and even plain with them, whereas YOU seem to think you're just a wee bit superior in your approach to something as serious as toy collecting and like to be a pompous ass about it and mock and criticize actual PEOPLE, on their subpar ideas and comments, when most of us here are only griping and discussing TOYS and MOVIES. Big difference.

Save your egotistical BS with me, I couldn't careless what a blowhard like yourself thinks about the fans, I'm here to try and chat about new Joe toys with some buds, and if you don't like the group, then get the hell out of here. It's toys...not politics! There's no right and no wrong WAY to do it. If you're getting some jollies out of "chewing up and spitting out" what fans think about toys and movies made about them, then you've got more serious issues to worry about than some "bully" like me calling you out on it.


My position has nothing to do with being "appreciative" of Hasbro and a lot more to do with people seemingly not having the slightest clue how businesses work. Opinions are fine, but if someone displays an opinion that's blatantly uninformed, I have no problem calling them on it. A little knowledge goes a long way.

You have a problem with me personally? Feel free to take it to PMs. Otherwise you're just being a "blowhard" yourself in your efforts to call me out. If you really could "care less" what I think, you wouldn't be responding to my posts in the first place, or would slap me on an "ignore list." In short, if you weren't so keen on proving your own superiority you wouldn't have started this little pissing contest to begin with. I guess that makes you a blowhard and a hypocrite.

Practice what you preach, or admit that you're just blowing smoke. If you really believed there's "no wrong WAY to do it" you shouldn't have any more problem with my opinions than you do with any other person on this board.

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Posted 19 February 2009 - 03:04 PM

View PostJmacq1, on Feb 19 2009, 07:11 AM, said:

View PostViper Hunter, on Feb 18 2009, 09:44 PM, said:

Hey, you're the one doing all the b!tching and complaining about the many fans of G.I.Joe and how unappreciative of Hasbro and everything they don't do for them, you think they are, not me. I like the company here of most my fellow comrades in the G.I.Joe collecting commuinty and put myself on an equal and even plain with them, whereas YOU seem to think you're just a wee bit superior in your approach to something as serious as toy collecting and like to be a pompous ass about it and mock and criticize actual PEOPLE, on their subpar ideas and comments, when most of us here are only griping and discussing TOYS and MOVIES. Big difference.

Save your egotistical BS with me, I couldn't careless what a blowhard like yourself thinks about the fans, I'm here to try and chat about new Joe toys with some buds, and if you don't like the group, then get the hell out of here. It's toys...not politics! There's no right and no wrong WAY to do it. If you're getting some jollies out of "chewing up and spitting out" what fans think about toys and movies made about them, then you've got more serious issues to worry about than some "bully" like me calling you out on it.


My position has nothing to do with being "appreciative" of Hasbro and a lot more to do with people seemingly not having the slightest clue how businesses work. Opinions are fine, but if someone displays an opinion that's blatantly uninformed, I have no problem calling them on it. A little knowledge goes a long way.

You have a problem with me personally? Feel free to take it to PMs. Otherwise you're just being a "blowhard" yourself in your efforts to call me out. If you really could "care less" what I think, you wouldn't be responding to my posts in the first place, or would slap me on an "ignore list." In short, if you weren't so keen on proving your own superiority you wouldn't have started this little pissing contest to begin with. I guess that makes you a blowhard and a hypocrite.

Practice what you preach, or admit that you're just blowing smoke. If you really believed there's "no wrong WAY to do it" you shouldn't have any more problem with my opinions than you do with any other person on this board.


If you have a problem with members expressing a complaint about toys and movies, then by all means, take YOUR own advice, and take it to PM's...instead of trying to embarrass and mock their opinions publicly. It's one thing to offer an opposing opinion or perspective on any given issue of discussion or topic. but you're RIGHT, I've seen you in action before, and I don't care for the style, never have and never will. You're not the first with it and likely won't be the last, but you cause more disruptions and agitation than you do anything more civil and respectful of others. You don't come here with the intentions of joining in and being an equal part of the community, you seem to only want to be here to lecture and poke holes in emotionally based opinions on toys and movies.

You keep pointing out issues of post counts, and ideas of me having some delusions of grander (or "superiority") over it, and you couldn't be more WRONG! It only shows your own arrogance and need to be in THAT very position yourself, and that such a status WOULD, in fact, be important to YOU, to be even MORE loud and obnoxious with others. I don't even give such trival BS a second thought.

If you're going to attack others (please note the word "ATTACK") on their personal opinions about toys...then I'm going to call you out on it, until you lose the attitude or get lost. Just ratchet down the pompous attitude and we'll be fine.

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Posted 19 February 2009 - 03:09 PM

View Postpesatyel, on Feb 19 2009, 02:18 AM, said:

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Look, at it. she can't even HOLD the thing. Are these things suposed to be vehicle mounted (ala sound attack)?



@haha@

I've got a big box just FULL of these very types of spring-loaded rocket launchers. They've never served any useful or practical purpose in union with the actual figures themselves, other than to give a child the option of having something that actually SHOOTS! I just toss'em in the box.

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Posted 19 February 2009 - 07:11 PM

View PostViper Hunter, on Feb 19 2009, 04:09 PM, said:

View Postpesatyel, on Feb 19 2009, 02:18 AM, said:

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Look, at it. she can't even HOLD the thing. Are these things suposed to be vehicle mounted (ala sound attack)?



@haha@

I've got a big box just FULL of these very types of spring-loaded rocket launchers. They've never served any useful or practical purpose in union with the actual figures themselves, other than to give a child the option of having something that actually SHOOTS! I just toss'em in the box.



That's Cover Girl, eh? My first thought was Buffy (SMG).

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Posted 19 February 2009 - 08:23 PM

Guys, to be totally honest, I couldn't care less that Ripcord is black. As long as Marlon Wayans does a good job and doesn't make the character the G.I. Joe version of Jar Jar Binks, I'll be fine with it. Frankly I never viewed Ripcord an integral character in the G.I. Joe mythos. I'm sorry if I offend any Ripcord fans out there. (lol)

And if you think about it, if they wanted to add an African American character to the cast, and Stalker wasn't an option because of the possible negative connotation of the name, they wouldn't have very much to fall back on. Alpine may be too specialized a name, and Doc or Stretcher perhaps not aggressive or serious enough respectively. Roadblock? Well, I perosnally believe this movie was green-lit back when Heavy Duty was a popular Sigma 6 character, and maybe Hasbro hadn't re-secured the copyright for the Roadblock name yet. (But wasn't it used in Spy Troops way before Sigma 6? Anyway...) We already have Heavy Duty for whatever reason, so Roadblock would have been a redundant character. Dee-Jay? Heh...the character in my opinion was always been a little silly to begin with, and I think most African Americans would have been offended by the stereotype that name might evoke. But what about Colonel Courage? How corny a name would that have been for the inaugural live-action G.I. Joe movie? So I can see now where they would want to retain a recognizable character name when incorporating an African American actor. It's a cool name for a potentially edgy African American character. I get it now.

To give a similar example when debating the whole "Ripcord-isn't-black" and/or "Marlon-Wayans-isn't-right-for-the-role" issue, I remember thinking Jamie Foxx was a poor choice to play Ricardo Tubbs in the new Miami Vice movie, never mind the fact that the character was traditional African American in the tv series. (I wanted Morgan Freeman to play the part. (lol) Just kidding, although I love Mr. Freeman.) But when I saw the movie, Foxx played a great part. He was cool and serious in the role. I just expected him to be goofy and silly like he had been in the past in other roles, but he was the exact opposite and pulled it off. And really, at least in the promotional pictures and teaser posters, Marlon Wayans seems to have this "I'm-taking-this-role-serious" look on his face; you don't see him with a crazy sneer or grin like in so many other films he's been in. That doesn't mean though he won't be somewhat of a comic-relief-type character. But that would be okay if he's low-key and not over the top. It needs to be a sporadic, Will Smith-type of humor. (Geeze I'm analyzing this waaayy too much...) (lol) Bottom line, I don't see the problem here. Ripcord was just never a prominent character or as iconic in the mythos like, say Snake-Eyes or Flint was, so if they tweak the character some, it's a minor issue for me personally. Now if Carrot Top was cast as Hawk, or Eddie Murphy was cast as Duke, then yeah...I'd have a problem. (lol)

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Posted 19 February 2009 - 08:26 PM

I have to admit I'm very pleased with how these movie figs have turned out. I'll definitely be picking up a good number of them, however some will become other characters and one or two might become custom fodder (or an unmasked Beachhead, however it works out @hmmm@ ) I'm looking forward to the movie.

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Posted 19 February 2009 - 09:19 PM

View PostDevil Bat, on Feb 19 2009, 08:23 PM, said:

Guys, to be totally honest, I couldn't care less that Ripcord is black. As long as Marlon Wayans does a good job and doesn't make the character the G.I. Joe version of Jar Jar Binks, I'll be fine with it. Frankly I never viewed Ripcord an integral character in the G.I. Joe mythos. I'm sorry if I offend any Ripcord fans out there. (lol)

And if you think about it, if they wanted to add an African American character to the cast, and Stalker wasn't an option because of the possible negative connotation of the name, they wouldn't have very much to fall back on. Alpine may be too specialized a name, and Doc or Stretcher perhaps not aggressive or serious enough respectively. Roadblock? Well, I perosnally believe this movie was green-lit back when Heavy Duty was a popular Sigma 6 character, and maybe Hasbro hadn't re-secured the copyright for the Roadblock name yet. (But wasn't it used in Spy Troops way before Sigma 6? Anyway...) We already have Heavy Duty for whatever reason, so Roadblock would have been a redundant character. Dee-Jay? Heh...the character in my opinion was always been a little silly to begin with, and I think most African Americans would have been offended by the stereotype that name might evoke. But what about Colonel Courage? How corny a name would that have been for the inaugural live-action G.I. Joe movie? So I can see now where they would want to retain a recognizable character name when incorporating an African American actor. It's a cool name for a potentially edgy African American character. I get it now.

To give a similar example when debating the whole "Ripcord-isn't-black" and/or "Marlon-Wayans-isn't-right-for-the-role" issue, I remember thinking Jamie Foxx was a poor choice to play Ricardo Tubbs in the new Miami Vice movie, never mind the fact that the character was traditional African American in the tv series. (I wanted Morgan Freeman to play the part. (lol) Just kidding, although I love Mr. Freeman.) But when I saw the movie, Foxx played a great part. He was cool and serious in the role. I just expected him to be goofy and silly like he had been in the past in other roles, but he was the exact opposite and pulled it off. And really, at least in the promotional pictures and teaser posters, Marlon Wayans seems to have this "I'm-taking-this-role-serious" look on his face; you don't see him with a crazy sneer or grin like in so many other films he's been in. That doesn't mean though he won't be somewhat of a comic-relief-type character. But that would be okay if he's low-key and not over the top. It needs to be a sporadic, Will Smith-type of humor. (Geeze I'm analyzing this waaayy too much...) (lol) Bottom line, I don't see the problem here. Ripcord was just never a prominent character or as iconic in the mythos like, say Snake-Eyes or Flint was, so if they tweak the character some, it's a minor issue for me personally. Now if Carrot Top was cast as Hawk, or Eddie Murphy was cast as Duke, then yeah...I'd have a problem. (lol)


Anything is possible DB, but not having seen the movie yet, all we have to throw out there for discussion over it, is our own personal opinions on it until then. You're right though, we may very well be pleasantly surprised, but the conversations are happening NOW, so everything is mere speculation.

I'm a little irritated with the folks that want to treat negative speculation as some crime, whereas positive speculation gets the pat on the back. It's ALL still just speculation and until the movie comes out, none of us have a clue as to how we'll think about the finished product, but I can damn well bet ya, that even after we do all see it, if we are less than pleased and post as much, there will be those that will try to discredit and insult those folks anyway.

I don't care for Marlon Wayans acting, and with only his past performances to go on. I'll get back with ya after viewing the DVD and we'll discuss his performance then? ;)

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Posted 19 February 2009 - 10:19 PM

Yeah, you're right too VH; it's ALL speculation at this point. I guess fans either like what they see so far or they don't. And I think BOTH opinions matter quite frankly. I can see where some fans hate the sci-fi slant the whole thing seems to have. And they don't like the changes that have been made to some characters. But I also understand where other fans think it's a fresh and interesting take on the mythos. I happen to be one of the latter, BUT...that doesn't mean I think other fans' opinions are invalid. Everyone's entitled to their opinion of course. Some have a good opinion of it, some bad. But it's just someone's opinion. It's not right or wrong.

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Posted 19 February 2009 - 10:31 PM

View PostViper Hunter, on Feb 19 2009, 03:09 PM, said:

View Postpesatyel, on Feb 19 2009, 02:18 AM, said:

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Look, at it. she can't even HOLD the thing. Are these things suposed to be vehicle mounted (ala sound attack)?



@haha@

I've got a big box just FULL of these very types of spring-loaded rocket launchers. They've never served any useful or practical purpose in union with the actual figures themselves, other than to give a child the option of having something that actually SHOOTS! I just toss'em in the box.


True. At least they aren't physically attached lol. But I mean, take a look at the B.A.T. that came in the "Arise Serpentor Arise" DVD pack. The missile launcher there was actually hand held. These things are dramatically oversized for some reason.

Hell, look at a lot of TFs that have launchers. Some of those are actually pretty small.

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Posted 19 February 2009 - 10:34 PM

View PostDevil Bat, on Feb 19 2009, 10:19 PM, said:

Yeah, you're right too VH; it's ALL speculation at this point. I guess fans either like what they see so far or they don't. And I think BOTH opinions matter quite frankly. I can see where some fans hate the sci-fi slant the whole thing seems to have. And they don't like the changes that have been made to some characters. But I also understand where other fans think it's a fresh and interesting take on the mythos. I happen to be one of the latter, BUT...that doesn't mean I think other fans' opinions are invalid. Everyone's entitled to their opinion of course. Some have a good opinion of it, some bad. But it's just someone's opinion. It's not right or wrong.


I'm just wondering if Ripcord will survive the movie.

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Posted 19 February 2009 - 11:07 PM

View PostViper Hunter, on Feb 19 2009, 03:04 PM, said:

If you have a problem with members expressing a complaint about toys and movies, then by all means, take YOUR own advice, and take it to PM's...instead of trying to embarrass and mock their opinions publicly. It's one thing to offer an opposing opinion or perspective on any given issue of discussion or topic. but you're RIGHT, I've seen you in action before, and I don't care for the style, never have and never will. You're not the first with it and likely won't be the last, but you cause more disruptions and agitation than you do anything more civil and respectful of others. You don't come here with the intentions of joining in and being an equal part of the community, you seem to only want to be here to lecture and poke holes in emotionally based opinions on toys and movies.

You keep pointing out issues of post counts, and ideas of me having some delusions of grander (or "superiority") over it, and you couldn't be more WRONG! It only shows your own arrogance and need to be in THAT very position yourself, and that such a status WOULD, in fact, be important to YOU, to be even MORE loud and obnoxious with others. I don't even give such trival BS a second thought.

If you're going to attack others (please note the word "ATTACK") on their personal opinions about toys...then I'm going to call you out on it, until you lose the attitude or get lost. Just ratchet down the pompous attitude and we'll be fine.


You just might want to hit that "ignore" button now, because I'm unlikely to change. I'll make an effort to be more polite about it, but I'm not going to stop offering those "opposing perspectives" to you or anyone else I disagree with.

Anyway, hopefully moving on:

View PostViper Hunter, on Feb 19 2009, 03:09 PM, said:

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I've got a big box just FULL of these very types of spring-loaded rocket launchers. They've never served any useful or practical purpose in union with the actual figures themselves, other than to give a child the option of having something that actually SHOOTS! I just toss'em in the box.


These launchers are even worse than most...it doesn't look like there's any way whatsoever for the figures to hold onto them, and even if they could, they're so ridiculously oversized that it'd just look silly. Yeah, likely just getting tossed in a box, unless they have some kind of vehicle interactivity or something.

pestayel said:

I'm just wondering if Ripcord will survive the movie.


Do you really want to know?

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Posted 20 February 2009 - 12:17 PM

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See, Figg? Can o' worms! ^_^


What have I done? :o

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Oh, I'm just being silly as I usually am.

As far as the Ripcord being black, I don't care. Seriously. To me it's as silly as if someone where to complain that the guy playing Storm Shadow is Korean instead of Japanese (or Japanese-American).

Wayans is playing American, that's all. Some people loved Duncan as Kingpin (I thought he was great), some couldn't get past the fact he was black, some didn't like him in the role for another reason. To anyone that didn't like Duncan as Kingpin let me ask this: Name one (1) white actor who would have been better in the role?

That is a little bit of apples to oranges as there's many an actor out there who'd be better at playing Ripcord than Wayans, but not because he's black, but because he's a sucky actor. IMO anyway.

Does that make sense?



I personally don't care that Storm Shadow is played by a Korean guy and didn't know that ppl would care. However, there are some ppl who does care, especially those who aren't asian americans. Because there is history between the various countries in Asia, some people take offense if an asian actor of a different nationally plays a character of another, especially if the character is a progtanoist or important in history. Our society groups all asians as one (i.e. people call all asian ppl chinese), so it is quite harder for someone to understand why some people make a big deal out of it.

For instance, Memoirs of a Geisha movie was controversal for both japanese and chinese ppl over in Asia because of the actress playing the lead role is chinese. Also, the new John Woo film, Red Cliff(which will most likely not be released here) replaced the japanese actor from Batman Begins to a chinese actor after getting negative replies from people in China who believes that a chinese person should play an important historical chinese leader.

This isn't just Asian, By the way, as there are other groups in America who would get upset if one actor of another group plays a character of a different group. When Hollywood was makin a movie based on Mexican singer, Salina, her family was critized by Mexicans for havin a Puerto Rican actress J. Lo to play Salina.

Even though I can see why people would get upset over it, I am not bothered by it since I have no ill will to people of different nationalities.

I am forunate that I didn't grew up hating ppl of different nationalities are raised to hate another asian group just because of somethin that happened decades or centuries a`go..


As for one of Wayan siblings playin Ripcord, I think a lot of people are more upset over the actor's talent more than the actor's skin colour. People tend to typecast actors in thinkin that they can only play one role. Seein how Marion Wayans played characters who are of the comical refief types, they are frighten that his version of Ripcord might be goofy and comical.

I am sure that they are some who cares about Ripcord's being of a different race in the movie, but they tend to be hardcore joe fans that doesn't like change. I would think these same ppl would also have a problem with the Neo Vipers not lookin like the cartoons and Cobra Commander being played by the kid from "Third Rock from the Sun."

Because this is a movie adaption and I have no attatchments to Ripcord, I could care less that he is of a different race.

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Posted 20 February 2009 - 12:21 PM

View Postpesatyel, on Feb 19 2009, 07:31 PM, said:

View PostViper Hunter, on Feb 19 2009, 03:09 PM, said:

View Postpesatyel, on Feb 19 2009, 02:18 AM, said:

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Look, at it. she can't even HOLD the thing. Are these things suposed to be vehicle mounted (ala sound attack)?



@haha@

I've got a big box just FULL of these very types of spring-loaded rocket launchers. They've never served any useful or practical purpose in union with the actual figures themselves, other than to give a child the option of having something that actually SHOOTS! I just toss'em in the box.


True. At least they aren't physically attached lol. But I mean, take a look at the B.A.T. that came in the "Arise Serpentor Arise" DVD pack. The missile launcher there was actually hand held. These things are dramatically oversized for some reason.

Hell, look at a lot of TFs that have launchers. Some of those are actually pretty small.


l would not be suprised if the launcher that comes with the toys is a gimmick that forms a baf or an extra gun that can be attatched to vechicles. BEcause the gun handle can pop in and out of the launcher, I would think that the huge circle piece can attatch 2 something else.

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Posted 20 February 2009 - 03:22 PM

View PostJmacq1, on Feb 19 2009, 11:07 PM, said:

View PostViper Hunter, on Feb 19 2009, 03:04 PM, said:

If you have a problem with members expressing a complaint about toys and movies, then by all means, take YOUR own advice, and take it to PM's...instead of trying to embarrass and mock their opinions publicly. It's one thing to offer an opposing opinion or perspective on any given issue of discussion or topic. but you're RIGHT, I've seen you in action before, and I don't care for the style, never have and never will. You're not the first with it and likely won't be the last, but you cause more disruptions and agitation than you do anything more civil and respectful of others. You don't come here with the intentions of joining in and being an equal part of the community, you seem to only want to be here to lecture and poke holes in emotionally based opinions on toys and movies.

You keep pointing out issues of post counts, and ideas of me having some delusions of grander (or "superiority") over it, and you couldn't be more WRONG! It only shows your own arrogance and need to be in THAT very position yourself, and that such a status WOULD, in fact, be important to YOU, to be even MORE loud and obnoxious with others. I don't even give such trival BS a second thought.

If you're going to attack others (please note the word "ATTACK") on their personal opinions about toys...then I'm going to call you out on it, until you lose the attitude or get lost. Just ratchet down the pompous attitude and we'll be fine.


You just might want to hit that "ignore" button now, because I'm unlikely to change. I'll make an effort to be more polite about it, but I'm not going to stop offering those "opposing perspectives" to you or anyone else I disagree with.


Okay then tough guy.....have it your way! ^_^


View PostJmacq1, on Feb 19 2009, 11:07 PM, said:

View PostViper Hunter, on Feb 19 2009, 03:09 PM, said:

I've got a big box just FULL of these very types of spring-loaded rocket launchers. They've never served any useful or practical purpose in union with the actual figures themselves, other than to give a child the option of having something that actually SHOOTS! I just toss'em in the box.


These launchers are even worse than most...it doesn't look like there's any way whatsoever for the figures to hold onto them, and even if they could, they're so ridiculously oversized that it'd just look silly. Yeah, likely just getting tossed in a box, unless they have some kind of vehicle interactivity or something.


I've been searching around, looking thru other Hasbro action figure lines, seeing if I could spot this weapon included in another line, thinking maybe it was just a cheap quick add-on for the movie line stuff? Haven't found anything yet. That round tab on the bottom of it seems weird though, and maybe it is for some later attachment to a vehicle? If not, I wouldn't be surprised, since such odditites have been common with the line. Gimmick stuff, like these light up, launcher type gizmo's from the D.E.F. series back in the 90's: http://www.yojoe.com/access/92/87.jpg

Those are in that "box" as well. ;)

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Posted 20 February 2009 - 11:38 PM

View PostGlue, on Feb 16 2009, 02:41 AM, said:

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Now where's ED-209?


WOW!! I truly thought that was a Robocop toy?

I've since discovered it was a 12" figure from the new G.I.Joe movie, but does anyone know if it's suppose to make it in 3 3/4" form? That would certainly amke a nice looking Robo Joe figure for the scale.

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Posted 21 February 2009 - 12:06 AM

View PostDoom Saber, on Feb 20 2009, 12:21 PM, said:

View Postpesatyel, on Feb 19 2009, 07:31 PM, said:

View PostViper Hunter, on Feb 19 2009, 03:09 PM, said:

View Postpesatyel, on Feb 19 2009, 02:18 AM, said:

Posted Image

Look, at it. she can't even HOLD the thing. Are these things suposed to be vehicle mounted (ala sound attack)?



@haha@

I've got a big box just FULL of these very types of spring-loaded rocket launchers. They've never served any useful or practical purpose in union with the actual figures themselves, other than to give a child the option of having something that actually SHOOTS! I just toss'em in the box.


True. At least they aren't physically attached lol. But I mean, take a look at the B.A.T. that came in the "Arise Serpentor Arise" DVD pack. The missile launcher there was actually hand held. These things are dramatically oversized for some reason.

Hell, look at a lot of TFs that have launchers. Some of those are actually pretty small.


l would not be suprised if the launcher that comes with the toys is a gimmick that forms a baf or an extra gun that can be attatched to vechicles. BEcause the gun handle can pop in and out of the launcher, I would think that the huge circle piece can attatch 2 something else.


I was thinking that too. I think they would have put that "on display". Cover Girl was just a rather extreme example. The other figures actually have handles that, appear, they can fit in the figure's hands. It is just that they are so ginormous the figure can't DO anything with them.

View PostViper Hunter, on Feb 20 2009, 03:22 PM, said:

View PostJmacq1, on Feb 19 2009, 11:07 PM, said:

View PostViper Hunter, on Feb 19 2009, 03:04 PM, said:

If you have a problem with members expressing a complaint about toys and movies, then by all means, take YOUR own advice, and take it to PM's...instead of trying to embarrass and mock their opinions publicly. It's one thing to offer an opposing opinion or perspective on any given issue of discussion or topic. but you're RIGHT, I've seen you in action before, and I don't care for the style, never have and never will. You're not the first with it and likely won't be the last, but you cause more disruptions and agitation than you do anything more civil and respectful of others. You don't come here with the intentions of joining in and being an equal part of the community, you seem to only want to be here to lecture and poke holes in emotionally based opinions on toys and movies.

You keep pointing out issues of post counts, and ideas of me having some delusions of grander (or "superiority") over it, and you couldn't be more WRONG! It only shows your own arrogance and need to be in THAT very position yourself, and that such a status WOULD, in fact, be important to YOU, to be even MORE loud and obnoxious with others. I don't even give such trival BS a second thought.

If you're going to attack others (please note the word "ATTACK") on their personal opinions about toys...then I'm going to call you out on it, until you lose the attitude or get lost. Just ratchet down the pompous attitude and we'll be fine.


You just might want to hit that "ignore" button now, because I'm unlikely to change. I'll make an effort to be more polite about it, but I'm not going to stop offering those "opposing perspectives" to you or anyone else I disagree with.


Okay then tough guy.....have it your way! ^_^


View PostJmacq1, on Feb 19 2009, 11:07 PM, said:

View PostViper Hunter, on Feb 19 2009, 03:09 PM, said:

I've got a big box just FULL of these very types of spring-loaded rocket launchers. They've never served any useful or practical purpose in union with the actual figures themselves, other than to give a child the option of having something that actually SHOOTS! I just toss'em in the box.


These launchers are even worse than most...it doesn't look like there's any way whatsoever for the figures to hold onto them, and even if they could, they're so ridiculously oversized that it'd just look silly. Yeah, likely just getting tossed in a box, unless they have some kind of vehicle interactivity or something.


I've been searching around, looking thru other Hasbro action figure lines, seeing if I could spot this weapon included in another line, thinking maybe it was just a cheap quick add-on for the movie line stuff? Haven't found anything yet. That round tab on the bottom of it seems weird though, and maybe it is for some later attachment to a vehicle? If not, I wouldn't be surprised, since such odditites have been common with the line. Gimmick stuff, like these light up, launcher type gizmo's from the D.E.F. series back in the 90's: http://www.yojoe.com/access/92/87.jpg

Those are in that "box" as well. ;)


Sure, but I expect them to do a better job 16 years later (ie. make them smaller).

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Posted 21 February 2009 - 12:07 PM

View PostViper Hunter, on Feb 20 2009, 03:22 PM, said:

I've been searching around, looking thru other Hasbro action figure lines, seeing if I could spot this weapon included in another line, thinking maybe it was just a cheap quick add-on for the movie line stuff? Haven't found anything yet. That round tab on the bottom of it seems weird though, and maybe it is for some later attachment to a vehicle? If not, I wouldn't be surprised, since such odditites have been common with the line. Gimmick stuff, like these light up, launcher type gizmo's from the D.E.F. series back in the 90's: http://www.yojoe.com/access/92/87.jpg

Those are in that "box" as well. ;)


I don't think it belongs to any other line. Sadly these launchers do look like they're being newly-tooled for this line. I'm sort-of hoping that round tab does mean it hooks up to a vehicle somehow (A lot like the DTC/"Robot Rebellion" stuff works together). Though even then I'm still not too likely to use 'em.

Oh, I know! Maybe they all combine together to form Joe-Tron!

As for the "Robo Joe" figure, it's probably certain to come out in 3 3/4" scale. It's "Duke in Accelerator Suit" from what I understand and we're already getting Ripcord in one...so a little paint touch-up and a headswap later....instant re-release!

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Posted 21 February 2009 - 03:11 PM

View PostJmacq1, on Feb 21 2009, 12:07 PM, said:

View PostViper Hunter, on Feb 20 2009, 03:22 PM, said:

I've been searching around, looking thru other Hasbro action figure lines, seeing if I could spot this weapon included in another line, thinking maybe it was just a cheap quick add-on for the movie line stuff? Haven't found anything yet. That round tab on the bottom of it seems weird though, and maybe it is for some later attachment to a vehicle? If not, I wouldn't be surprised, since such odditites have been common with the line. Gimmick stuff, like these light up, launcher type gizmo's from the D.E.F. series back in the 90's: http://www.yojoe.com/access/92/87.jpg

Those are in that "box" as well. ;)


I don't think it belongs to any other line. Sadly these launchers do look like they're being newly-tooled for this line. I'm sort-of hoping that round tab does mean it hooks up to a vehicle somehow (A lot like the DTC/"Robot Rebellion" stuff works together). Though even then I'm still not too likely to use 'em.

Oh, I know! Maybe they all combine together to form Joe-Tron!

As for the "Robo Joe" figure, it's probably certain to come out in 3 3/4" scale. It's "Duke in Accelerator Suit" from what I understand and we're already getting Ripcord in one...so a little paint touch-up and a headswap later....instant re-release!

glad you mentioned robot rebellion. I was wondering if this did hook up to the vehicles if they were cast aways from that line failed line. Y'know we likely have seen some of those parts w/o realizing it since then.

As long as the missles were detachable the never bothered me, i mean honestly i loved those things as a kid.

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Posted 21 February 2009 - 03:48 PM

View PostJmacq1, on Feb 21 2009, 12:07 PM, said:

As for the "Robo Joe" figure, it's probably certain to come out in 3 3/4" scale. It's "Duke in Accelerator Suit" from what I understand and we're already getting Ripcord in one...so a little paint touch-up and a headswap later....instant re-release!


I hadn't even noticed the Ripcord Accelerator suit figure yet. Went thru the pics again and there he was. Simple head swap is right.

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