[MasterJailer]

Storetrooper, on 08 August 2010 - 10:35 AM, said:

I am so happy with this line! I am so pissed that I already know it is on the way out.

I've been surprised at how much I enjoy these figures. I guess after the debacle of ROC I'd turned away from GIJ and just half expected for POC to turn out to be ROC II. It is however a very nice use of classic characters given modern detailing that still gives them that modern military flavor yet still avoids making them look too science fiction-ish. Sadly, Hasbro is treating POC as a dumping ground for their unreleased products and as something to hold us fans over until they roll out the animated line in force.

I don't know how that animated line is going to go over, but it's not for me. They tried... I guess... to make it seemless with current Joe lines but it still looks noticeably off. Those long spindly arms, the baggy pants and the Star Wars like accessories just put me off. Most of the initial figures are characters we've seen to death... Duke, Lady Jaye, Snake Eyes.... I already have those characters. I really don't need uglier versions of them.

[ARROW]

wolverine2281, on 08 August 2010 - 07:43 AM, said:

lol at the juvenile giving everyone -1's

That would be MasterJailer. He hates being upstaged.

[Nguyen_Dragon]

The figures being able to carry most of their weapons is great... Like most people I am liking this line a lot...

What do you guys think about the removable vest and such?... Personally I think its awesome...

[barbecue17]

MasterJailer, on 08 August 2010 - 10:48 AM, said:

I don't know how that animated line is going to go over, but it's not for me. They tried... I guess... to make it seemless with current Joe lines but it still looks noticeably off. Those long spindly arms, the baggy pants and the Star Wars like accessories just put me off. Most of the initial figures are characters we've seen to death... Duke, Lady Jaye, Snake Eyes.... I already have those characters. I really don't need uglier versions of them.

Where have these been shown? I haven't seen them yet. And what do you mean by Star Wars-like accessories? Do they come with only one or two accessories per figure or something?

[pooda]

ARROW, on 08 August 2010 - 11:33 AM, said:

wolverine2281, on 08 August 2010 - 07:43 AM, said:

lol at the juvenile giving everyone -1's

That would be MasterJailer. He hates being upstaged.

wow.

[MasterJailer]

ARROW, on 08 August 2010 - 11:33 AM, said:

wolverine2281, on 08 August 2010 - 07:43 AM, said:

lol at the juvenile giving everyone -1's

That would be MasterJailer. He hates being upstaged.

Well, that's not true. I've hit you with negatives but only when you've made trolling comments like that.

[MasterJailer]

barbecue17, on 08 August 2010 - 02:36 PM, said:

Where have these been shown?

They haven't been shown publicly yet.

barbecue17, on 08 August 2010 - 02:36 PM, said:

And what do you mean by Star Wars-like accessories?

I prefer guns that are more realistic or at least more believable. If I were to get these, I'd definitely have to refit them courtesy of Marauder.com.

[ARROW]

MasterJailer, on 08 August 2010 - 03:50 PM, said:

barbecue17, on 08 August 2010 - 02:36 PM, said:

Where have these been shown?

They haven't been shown publicly yet.

..and notice how he carefully does not mention that he's actually somehow seen the product, but tries to insinuate he has.
Notice how he hasn't answered post #47 , in which mako asks him directly if he has seen the figures.

Like I said, he HATES being upstaged.

[MasterJailer]

ARROW, on 08 August 2010 - 03:56 PM, said:

..and notice how he carefully does not mention that he's actually somehow seen the product, but tries to insinuate he has.
Like I said, he HATES being upstaged.

Look. You're free to post your resume or tell stories of how your Canadian bankruptcy was the greatest thing that ever happened to you anytime you want.

[ARROW]

MasterJailer, on 08 August 2010 - 03:58 PM, said:

ARROW, on 08 August 2010 - 03:56 PM, said:

..and notice how he carefully does not mention that he's actually somehow seen the product, but tries to insinuate he has.
Like I said, he HATES being upstaged.

Look. You're free to post your resume or tell stories of how your Canadian bankruptcy was the greatest thing that ever happened to you anytime you want.

...and you can clear up how you supposedly KNOW these figures will be in the animated style, and that we will all hate them.

At least I can share facts and actual experiences, and not bullshit.

[MasterJailer]

ARROW, on 08 August 2010 - 04:04 PM, said:

...and you can clear up how you supposedly KNOW these figures will be in the animated style, and that we will all hate them.

At least I can share facts and actual experiences, and not bullshit.

What??? The Grand Advocate of Canadian Bank Fraud ("Hey, Kids! If you can get away with it and make a buck, steal it! See you in Hell!") is impugning MY integrity???

Please! Do not believe me at all. Clearly you've made up your mind that I'm inventing stuff to usurp your highly prized status of Message Board Big Shot. Reject everything I have to say. Then sleep well.

[pooda]

The Grand Advocate of Canadian Bank Fraud?....what the hell?...you guys have lost me for sure. anyway...i want to see these new figs that everyone is in an uproar about.

[wolverine2281]

good luck, only one person on these boards has seen them ^^^

[revsears]

looks like masterjailer is commenting on the designs we have seen. It would be nice to clarify that though.

Back to the POC stuff:

i'm just wondering why Beachead got a neat sculpt underneath his vest too. Wouldn't the standard o13 torso work just fine for guys like this, whose main look comes from gear. That would save more tooling money to go for things like vehicle drivers etc.

[wolverine2281]

He said they haven't been shown "publicly" and since we've all seen the slides from SDCC (public or not) we can only assume from the way he is talking that he has seen them for real! not in public

[ARROW]

pooda, on 08 August 2010 - 05:29 PM, said:

The Grand Advocate of Canadian Bank Fraud?....what the hell?...you guys have lost me for sure. anyway...i want to see these new figs that everyone is in an uproar about.

Its the latest thing he thinks he's got on me. I shared some background in another thread about foreclosures and he's spinning it into something crooked.

I think at this point everyone can safely assume that MasterJailer HAS NOT seen the new Renegades GIJOE figures--simply because he'd love to announce that he has seen them before anyone else. He'd have said outright that he has indeed seen them, but instead he's only imagined what he thinks they are in his head.

And he's just been called out on it and its fuelling his resentments and insecurities even more.
All he is doing is stating his opinion about the figures, he's got no inside information to share.

[SpiderMan]

These figures are so awesome ! But on a YouTube video , some one reported that at Wal Mart , they are $ 10 a figure .

[ARROW]

Nasburado, on 08 August 2010 - 05:35 PM, said:

looks like masterjailer is commenting on the designs we have seen. It would be nice to clarify that though.

Back to the POC stuff:

i'm just wondering why Beachead got a neat sculpt underneath his vest too. Wouldn't the standard o13 torso work just fine for guys like this, whose main look comes from gear. That would save more tooling money to go for things like vehicle drivers etc.

Those animated designs are very likely NOT what the toys will be styled like. Hasbro is heavily invested in the "25th" style articulated buck, and a lot of the current and projected vehicles support that buck. The HISS tank and Mechas are out now, and they fit current-style figures.
I have NOT seen the toy designs (yet), but it was announced they would be shown at Toy Fair in 2011. Its possible they could be leaked at the Fall Toy Fair--but we'll have to wait and see.

[Draven79]

id be surpeised if the figures were of an animated style after Sigma failed and the modern 25th style has been a massive sucess for Hasbro. You guy just need to ignore masterjailer and maybe he will shut up. You are fueling his fire.
Draven

[MasterJailer]

I can't reveal what I've seen, how I saw it, or from who without getting people in trouble. I was told after a couple of filler waves of POC, EVERYTHING was going to be Renegade. Hasbro is putting all it's GI Joe eggs in ONE basket called Renegades! My impression is this does not sit well with some people but they're hoping for the best for Renegades. I was assured that while they had to adhere to the look of the cartoon, they were going to try as much as possible so Renegade figures could fit seamlessly alongside 25th Anniversary and POC figures. This however was not consistent with what I saw. I did not like what I saw. SOME might... but I'd bet not many. Of all of them, I guess Snake-Eyes would fit in the best... maybe. The problem mostly were the proportions. The outfits I can chalk up to a bad design, but the proportions really just put me off. The arms are very long and spindly. Maybe little kids will like these but I know after POC runs its course, I'm probably out of GI Joe for a while.

[GPM in ICT]

I just wish Hasbro would decide what they want. I liked the 25th, Resolute, ROC and the POC stuff we have got and will be getting. But that being said Hasbro has no clear idea what to do with the line anymore. Starting with the 25th anniversary stuff we were only going to get the two five packs to begin with. But they were such a hit that they continued with it (can't blame them for that). While they had the 25th stuff front and center, Resolute (the cartoon) was being done in the background. At about the time that Hasbro was and should have been bring out Resolute the movie was announced and that stalled Resolute to an undetermined release date for the cartoon and only three "real" figures getting released at the end of 2008. From basicly Jan to July of 2009 we had nothing and finally the movie stuff came out. Like most movie line stores overordered te first wave making some of the later waves and figures hard to find (Kamakura anyone). Then Hasbro killed the original POC line to focus more of the characters and less on POC being a continuation of ROC, so from Dec 2009 until August 2010 we had nothing. Now the new version of POC has hit and fans seem to be digging it, but I can't help but wonder retailers will react. Will the order it because it's Joe or Underorder it because there is nothing behind it. Hasbro seemes to just want something Joe releated on the shelves this year since Renegades isn't ready yet. But it seems like we'll get some POC stuff early next year and then another long break before we see any Renegades stuff on the shelf next Fall, which btw is a full year after the cartoon will have launched.

Now my guess is we might see some of the POC stuff that people want (Jungle CC and CS Scarlett), but isn't getting released in a 7 pack next summer since that seems to be what Hasbro does for the "real fans' (meaning they threw us a bone in the form of 2009's Cobra Island packs and this years Resolute packs). But even assuming that Renegades takes off, by the summer of 2012 Hasbro will probably be getting ready to put out stuff for the second movie, which leaves renegades stuck unless Hasbro decides to run a movie line and animated line for Joe at the same time. What Hasbro seems to need is real direction behind the line.

[wolverine2281]

SpiderMan, on 08 August 2010 - 05:45 PM, said:

These figures are so awesome ! But on a YouTube video , some one reported that at Wal Mart , they are $ 10 a figure .

That has been discussed here in the joes 9.97 at walmart wtf thread, but also in the same thread people are reporting that they dropped the price back down to $6.97


(-1 for wolvie)

[Draven79]

Yep my Wm's put them back to $7.
Draven

[yojoebro82]

I've been extremely happy with GI Joe ever since they ditched that "new sculpt" style and went to the 25th style. Ever since then, 4 or 5 years now, Joe fans have been treated VERY well by Hasbro, you gotta admit. They have personally gotten a lot of my money.(Even if you hated the ROC line, it was a necessary movie tie in...if you don't expect everything to stop for movie tie-ins, you don't know the hobby very well).
I don't care if POC is two or three waves long. I'll enjoy what I get. Chances are the figs based on the cartoon will be decent too.

[Nguyen_Dragon]

I think we should all just enjoy this badass filler line for now... There will be plenty of time to go off or embrace when we actually see something from Renegade...