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#1 User is offline   The Wire 

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Posted 07 October 2013 - 06:00 PM

Lone Ranger co-writer Terry Rossio comes on board for MOTU Movie

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Posted 07 October 2013 - 08:12 PM

This movie is going to be terrible. Better to just not even try.

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Posted 07 October 2013 - 08:33 PM

It is too bad Hollywood couldn't do what Japan does

The Japanese a few years back made a live verison movie of Space Battlship Yamato..Starblazers to some of us.They used almost everything from the toon.The uniforms and the ships looked like the origional toon versions.

I know you can't get away with having all the guys look muscle bound and people will wear more cloths but at least make Orko and castle Greyskull look like they are supposed to be

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Posted 07 October 2013 - 09:18 PM

Lone Ranger was awful...is this supposed to be good news?

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Posted 07 October 2013 - 10:04 PM

I bet they get Ben Affleck to play He-Man.

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Posted 08 October 2013 - 10:11 AM

I always find it amusing how many people seem to want a bunch of pro wrestlers running around in furry diapers for their MotU movie. Then in the same breath lament that the movie isn't getting top-flight A-list talent assigned for writing/directing/etc...

MotU is inherently stupid. Most of the goodwill the franchise has engendered (like most 80's franchises that retain significant fandom) is based more on nostalgia and fan's imaginations than the quality of any media that came before. That doesn't mean anyone's wrong for enjoying it (I love the franchise myself), but even Steven Spielberg would have a hard time turning an inconsistent pile of silliness into a deeply compelling and engrossing movie for grown-ups (nevermind that they won't want the movie to be too "Grown up" because they want NEW fans, not just to please old diehards like us).

Hollywood doesn't make movies for existing fans. They make them for prospective new fans. Sometimes you get lucky and have franchises where you can find a very happy medium (most of the Marvel films fall into this category, though even then plenty of diehards lament how much they "suck" for not being panel-for-panel translations of the comics), but most of those movies have source material that looks like frikkin' Shakespeare compared to most of the stuff that's been put out for MotU.

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Posted 08 October 2013 - 11:07 AM

View PostJmacq1, on 08 October 2013 - 10:11 AM, said:

I always find it amusing how many people seem to want a bunch of pro wrestlers running around in furry diapers for their MotU movie. Then in the same breath lament that the movie isn't getting top-flight A-list talent assigned for writing/directing/etc...

MotU is inherently stupid. Most of the goodwill the franchise has engendered (like most 80's franchises that retain significant fandom) is based more on nostalgia and fan's imaginations than the quality of any media that came before. That doesn't mean anyone's wrong for enjoying it (I love the franchise myself), but even Steven Spielberg would have a hard time turning an inconsistent pile of silliness into a deeply compelling and engrossing movie for grown-ups (nevermind that they won't want the movie to be too "Grown up" because they want NEW fans, not just to please old diehards like us).

Hollywood doesn't make movies for existing fans. They make them for prospective new fans. Sometimes you get lucky and have franchises where you can find a very happy medium (most of the Marvel films fall into this category, though even then plenty of diehards lament how much they "suck" for not being panel-for-panel translations of the comics), but most of those movies have source material that looks like frikkin' Shakespeare compared to most of the stuff that's been put out for MotU.


@stoned@

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Posted 08 October 2013 - 12:08 PM

View PostLeatusiv, on 07 October 2013 - 10:04 PM, said:

I bet they get Ben Affleck to play He-Man.


I have a bad feeling it will be Channing Tatum...

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Posted 08 October 2013 - 12:51 PM

Official cast of new MOTU flick. So excited! Can't wait!

He-Man: Owen Wilson

Skeletor: Snoop Dog

Man at Arms: Sam Elliot

Teela: Paris Hilton

Beast Man: Ben Stiller

Evil Lyn: Pam Grier

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Posted 08 October 2013 - 02:25 PM

View Postmegachickmagnet, on 08 October 2013 - 11:07 AM, said:

View PostJmacq1, on 08 October 2013 - 10:11 AM, said:

I always find it amusing how many people seem to want a bunch of pro wrestlers running around in furry diapers for their MotU movie. Then in the same breath lament that the movie isn't getting top-flight A-list talent assigned for writing/directing/etc...

MotU is inherently stupid. Most of the goodwill the franchise has engendered (like most 80's franchises that retain significant fandom) is based more on nostalgia and fan's imaginations than the quality of any media that came before. That doesn't mean anyone's wrong for enjoying it (I love the franchise myself), but even Steven Spielberg would have a hard time turning an inconsistent pile of silliness into a deeply compelling and engrossing movie for grown-ups (nevermind that they won't want the movie to be too "Grown up" because they want NEW fans, not just to please old diehards like us).

Hollywood doesn't make movies for existing fans. They make them for prospective new fans. Sometimes you get lucky and have franchises where you can find a very happy medium (most of the Marvel films fall into this category, though even then plenty of diehards lament how much they "suck" for not being panel-for-panel translations of the comics), but most of those movies have source material that looks like frikkin' Shakespeare compared to most of the stuff that's been put out for MotU.


@stoned@


Not sure why you'd take such issue with the truth. Most stuff that was designed for 6-11 year olds is pretty stupid when it comes to plot and characterization.. That doesn't mean it can't be imaginative and entertaining, or that there's anything wrong with enjoying it.

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Posted 08 October 2013 - 02:45 PM

View PostJmacq1, on 08 October 2013 - 02:25 PM, said:

View Postmegachickmagnet, on 08 October 2013 - 11:07 AM, said:

View PostJmacq1, on 08 October 2013 - 10:11 AM, said:

I always find it amusing how many people seem to want a bunch of pro wrestlers running around in furry diapers for their MotU movie. Then in the same breath lament that the movie isn't getting top-flight A-list talent assigned for writing/directing/etc...

MotU is inherently stupid. Most of the goodwill the franchise has engendered (like most 80's franchises that retain significant fandom) is based more on nostalgia and fan's imaginations than the quality of any media that came before. That doesn't mean anyone's wrong for enjoying it (I love the franchise myself), but even Steven Spielberg would have a hard time turning an inconsistent pile of silliness into a deeply compelling and engrossing movie for grown-ups (nevermind that they won't want the movie to be too "Grown up" because they want NEW fans, not just to please old diehards like us).

Hollywood doesn't make movies for existing fans. They make them for prospective new fans. Sometimes you get lucky and have franchises where you can find a very happy medium (most of the Marvel films fall into this category, though even then plenty of diehards lament how much they "suck" for not being panel-for-panel translations of the comics), but most of those movies have source material that looks like frikkin' Shakespeare compared to most of the stuff that's been put out for MotU.


@stoned@


Not sure why you'd take such issue with the truth. Most stuff that was designed for 6-11 year olds is pretty stupid when it comes to plot and characterization.. That doesn't mean it can't be imaginative and entertaining, or that there's anything wrong with enjoying it.


This is hardly the truth, it is simply your opinion... and I don't have an issue with your opinion. However, I felt it necessary to respond with an emoticon expressing my dislike for your opinion. And that's pretty much it.

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Posted 08 October 2013 - 03:37 PM

View PostLeatusiv, on 07 October 2013 - 10:04 PM, said:

I bet they get Ben Affleck to play He-Man.

We could never be that lucky....

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Posted 08 October 2013 - 08:31 PM

View PostJmacq1, on 08 October 2013 - 10:11 AM, said:

I always find it amusing how many people seem to want a bunch of pro wrestlers running around in furry diapers for their MotU movie. Then in the same breath lament that the movie isn't getting top-flight A-list talent assigned for writing/directing/etc...

MotU is inherently stupid. Most of the goodwill the franchise has engendered (like most 80's franchises that retain significant fandom) is based more on nostalgia and fan's imaginations than the quality of any media that came before. That doesn't mean anyone's wrong for enjoying it (I love the franchise myself), but even Steven Spielberg would have a hard time turning an inconsistent pile of silliness into a deeply compelling and engrossing movie for grown-ups (nevermind that they won't want the movie to be too "Grown up" because they want NEW fans, not just to please old diehards like us).

Hollywood doesn't make movies for existing fans. They make them for prospective new fans. Sometimes you get lucky and have franchises where you can find a very happy medium (most of the Marvel films fall into this category, though even then plenty of diehards lament how much they "suck" for not being panel-for-panel translations of the comics), but most of those movies have source material that looks like frikkin' Shakespeare compared to most of the stuff that's been put out for MotU.


But you can take the basic premise of a fantasy world like Eternia with a villain like Skeletor trying to overthrow his half-brother Randor's kingdom and/or extract the power hidden within Castle Grayskull with Adam/He-Man born/created to protect it and do something good and entertaining in a film with it all.

You don't need to take all of it or even most of it. I mean, Snout Spout doesn't have to be featured or even exist in this film universe. But there's enough there to entertain old and new alike while still doing something faithful to what MOTU is or has been. And there's certainly enough there to not need to come up with the crap some of these scripts supposedly had in them.

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Posted 08 October 2013 - 09:45 PM

View PostNguyen_Dragon, on 08 October 2013 - 12:08 PM, said:

View PostLeatusiv, on 07 October 2013 - 10:04 PM, said:

I bet they get Ben Affleck to play He-Man.


I have a bad feeling it will be Channing Tatum...



That's just as bad..... :(

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Posted 08 October 2013 - 09:57 PM

I'd say Chris Hemsworth would be a cool cast.. but then we'd end up getting little brother Liam, lol



OOH, OOH... Liam as Prince Adam, Chris as He-Man!!!

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Posted 09 October 2013 - 01:48 AM

View PostJmacq1, on 08 October 2013 - 02:25 PM, said:

View Postmegachickmagnet, on 08 October 2013 - 11:07 AM, said:

View PostJmacq1, on 08 October 2013 - 10:11 AM, said:

I always find it amusing how many people seem to want a bunch of pro wrestlers running around in furry diapers for their MotU movie. Then in the same breath lament that the movie isn't getting top-flight A-list talent assigned for writing/directing/etc...

MotU is inherently stupid. Most of the goodwill the franchise has engendered (like most 80's franchises that retain significant fandom) is based more on nostalgia and fan's imaginations than the quality of any media that came before. That doesn't mean anyone's wrong for enjoying it (I love the franchise myself), but even Steven Spielberg would have a hard time turning an inconsistent pile of silliness into a deeply compelling and engrossing movie for grown-ups (nevermind that they won't want the movie to be too "Grown up" because they want NEW fans, not just to please old diehards like us).

Hollywood doesn't make movies for existing fans. They make them for prospective new fans. Sometimes you get lucky and have franchises where you can find a very happy medium (most of the Marvel films fall into this category, though even then plenty of diehards lament how much they "suck" for not being panel-for-panel translations of the comics), but most of those movies have source material that looks like frikkin' Shakespeare compared to most of the stuff that's been put out for MotU.


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Not sure why you'd take such issue with the truth. Most stuff that was designed for 6-11 year olds is pretty stupid when it comes to plot and characterization.. That doesn't mean it can't be imaginative and entertaining, or that there's anything wrong with enjoying it.


I agree. Having it 100% like the cartoon would be too corny. For me, an ideal He-man movie would be to do away with the Prince Adam and He-man persona because not only it is too close to Clark Kent is to Superman, it doesn't make since in a such a setting where the story will be told in a 2 hour movie. It works for the cartoon series since it is aimed for kids and it is in episodic form - the Adam/He-man identity in the previous cartoons was used as comedy relief. It works for Superman since the character, in my opinion, is about an alien who wants to blend in his adopted world, yet uses his power to save the earth's inhabitants and the world from danger.

I think that is why the current DC comic series and the live action movie did away with people not realizing that Adam and He-man are the same person.

A good way to try to modernize the Adam and He-man concept would be to have a child Prince Adam escape during one of the Horde's attack on the castle and return Eternia as "He-man" decades later. Perhaps the battle could be when the Horde not only kidnaps Adora, but takes over the kingdom - during the attack, King Randor orders Duncan (with a tween Teela)to take Prince Adam and another guard to take Princess Adora to somewhere safe. However, the person escaping the kingdom with Adora is slain by Skeletor and takes Adora to a mysterious leader (Hordak). Duncan (with Teela and Adam), however, escapes the kingdom safely near Castle Greyskull. Living in exile, Duncan trains both Adam and Teela to become fighters or something.

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Posted 09 October 2013 - 06:08 AM

View PostJmacq1, on 08 October 2013 - 10:11 AM, said:

Hollywood doesn't make movies for existing fans. They make them for prospective new fans. Sometimes you get lucky and have franchises where you can find a very happy medium (most of the Marvel films fall into this category, though even then plenty of diehards lament how much they "suck" for not being panel-for-panel translations of the comics), but most of those movies have source material that looks like frikkin' Shakespeare compared to most of the stuff that's been put out for MotU.


This is word-for-word accurate. Particularly when talking about these 80s toy movies.

Transformers makes millions per movie even though all fans of the G1 80s stuff hate them. But the studios not going to chance up their formula because they're not doing it to please the 80s fan (IF they do end up doing it it's because of a happy accident, and if so, great).

GI Joe: they come out with a sequel that's better than the original in every way and some fans still call for reboot (by reboot I think they mean "try it again, this time with the 30 year old costumes".)

Even movies that aren't out yet: Spider-Man 2 already "sucks". The one and only basis for this conclusion? Electro looks different. (Never mind that the MAIN CHARACTER, Spider-Man, has never looked more comic-accurate than in ASM2). Electro looks different! This is going to suck!

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Posted 09 October 2013 - 06:33 AM

Sequels generally do suck though, especially if a different director than the first film is attached to it. Or if the first film was intended to be a stand alone film but it ended up making so much money, the studio demanded a follow up... perfect example of that would be Batman Begins. It was a great film. When it came time for the sequels, the filmmaker got lazy and it shows in the next two films, which were awful. Another example is The Matrix... a 2nd and 3rd film NEVER should have been made. It's all about more money and less creative integrity. Only on rare occasions do sequels work. I think the Iron Man Trilogy came together pretty nice because the stories in each film focused on the evolution of Tony Stark rather than a bombardment of visual candy. Hopefully Avengers 2 will deliver. Even the new Hobbit films look promising.

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Posted 09 October 2013 - 09:35 AM

View PostJoeRhyno, on 08 October 2013 - 09:57 PM, said:

I'd say Chris Hemsworth would be a cool cast.. but then we'd end up getting little brother Liam, lol



OOH, OOH... Liam as Prince Adam, Chris as He-Man!!!


This could work...

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Posted 09 October 2013 - 12:14 PM

Yeah great idea, Lets take Thor and turn him into He-man. Brilliant. 'sigh'

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