BoomBatty, on Oct 15 2007, 09:00 AM, said:
Sucks because you know they are going to be waaayyy expensive (which sort of doubly sucks b/c Hasbro had no other way apparently to release these, I don't blame MC for anything other than the price here). Sucks because I don't see membership giving me a discount (besides the cost of the the membership itself). Sucks because I will most likely buy them anyway (lack of self control I guess) which you could easily argue the other way, granted, but being a pessimist when it comes to MC I think "sucks" sums it up best.
Define way expensive? I'm perfectly willing to pay $8 per figure from Wave 4, due to small production runs, and the changes the GIJCC is going to make per our requests. I would also not object to them making 4x as many army builders as actual unique characters, because we all know they will sell better, and I wouldn't object to having five, ten or twenty night vipers, and five total Officers.
Look, I realize you probably see more value than I do and I am glad you do, really. You tend to have a better outlook on these things then I do and that is a good thing. I just find myself on the other end of the spectrum in actually wishing MC didn't get the Wave 4 molds and the other cancelled figures as I, for my own selfish reasons, wouldn't feel the need to collect them and shell out the associated $$$. I personally hate small production numbers because it bugs me that the average Joe (no pun intended) can't collect them due to over inflated costs. I already stated I can afford it but I actually feel bad for the number of enthusiasts that can't. I think it greatly diminishes the "fun" as it were and becomes a "haves" vs. "have nots" routine. So in the end the suckatude only goes up along with the price and the lack of disposable income I suppose.
I actually find very little "real value" in being a member, aside from reading the newsletter and figure. I can buy the same product for the same price via e-bay, or online retailers if lucky. But I have never gone that route unless the GIJCC has been sold out on the item I wanted (02 Con set is the only example so far). Their forums are entertaining when the leadership of the GIJCC attempts to answer questions w/o giving away product.
As far as the "haves" vs. "have nots," isn't that what collecting is all about? You HAVE the collection, others don't... If you HAVE NOT got a piece which you feel is vital, you will go and get said piece. Eventually it will be in the price range you're willing to pay (however long that'll take).
If you don't have the disposable income (which I know you do, this is a general statement), why are you buying G.I.Joes in the first place? If you don't have enough to purchase all of the product that you want, and can only buy pieces, buy that which will be hardest to find again first... (i.e. DTC wave 4 if it sells out through MC, and any army builders/variants released if you want them.)
I don't collect Star Wars or Transformers but from what I read here they seem to get stuck in the same sort of rut.
I will say this for this whole argument, it has made for a lively discussion
I don't collect any other lines either, but I think every toy collector falls here. As Ken said in another thread, "Toy collectors always want the item for as cheap as possible." And that is very true. I consider myself cheap. (Other collectors don't consider me that way... Just ask anyone who saw what I bought at the Con over the years.)