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#51 User is offline   FUGAYZIE 

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Posted 25 July 2013 - 09:11 AM

my tru just restocked the classic turtles again.

i have always wanted movie turtles, but it's hard to see if the sulpts are any good. i would have really liked to have seen a classics shredder and splinter.

not to bash on playmates, but neca's work was just so good, i really wish they would have finished out the Mirage comic line and been given the go-ahead on the movie and toon lines too :(

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Posted 25 July 2013 - 05:35 PM

I dont know why neca cant continue, i mean they are doing comic based figures while playmates just keeps it on animation. The way i see it, classics will be dead allready because of all these turtles. New animated, classics, vintage ones also make a return and now 90's movie. How manny versions can retail take before they call it over? We all know not much.

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Posted 26 July 2013 - 01:40 PM

http://www.bigbadtoy...335&mode=retail

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Posted 30 July 2013 - 11:07 AM

View Postshokker, on 25 July 2013 - 05:35 PM, said:

I dont know why neca cant continue, i mean they are doing comic based figures while playmates just keeps it on animation. The way i see it, classics will be dead allready because of all these turtles. New animated, classics, vintage ones also make a return and now 90's movie. How manny versions can retail take before they call it over? We all know not much.

I heard something along the lines of NECA depending too heavily on the foreign market to buy into the line. Since TMNT (especially the original comic version) has nowhere near the national or international status of other major comic/toy characters (ie: Spiderman, batman, supes, wolvie, etc.) they were a hard sell. compound that with the fact that the figures (like turtles in the comic) were all rockin red masks, made them less appealing than the MOST familiar multi-colored masked rendition of them.

i'm a diehard Mirage TMNT fan. i've been there since the mid/late 80's. as painful as it is for me to say this, the smartest thing for neca to have done would have been to release the turtles with their individually colored masks, making the all red masks the lesser produced variants. fact is, the cartoon was what forced the TMNT into the brains and hearts of the masses. before that, the turtles were gritty, aggressive, serious, ass-whooping ninjas from a black and white pg-13esq comic. they did not eat pizza or travel around in wacky vehicles, hell, they didn't even wear multi-colored masks; that was an adaption made for the cartoon so children could easily tell them apart. the first movie was a well balanced meld of comic and cartoon TMNT.

with all that said, if NECA was losing money from international sales and nationally the only places fans could buy these figures were at Toys R Us and specialty shops, it's no wonder why the line ended. with such poor marketing, i'm surprised we saw comic April and the Mousers. though, if it was done all over again, right now, in today's market with TMNT popularity riding the high wave of popularity that it is, it would be a totally different story.

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Posted 31 July 2013 - 10:21 AM

View PostFUGAYZIE, on 30 July 2013 - 11:07 AM, said:

though, if it was done all over again, right now, in today's market with TMNT popularity riding the high wave of popularity that it is, it would be a totally different story.

Not really. I love the Turtles, but even I have to admit their popularity is nowhere near where it was. The only time anybody seems to notice the new movie is when they screw something up (alien Turtles, Paramilitary Foot, Megan Fox), the Nick toon is doing alright, but isn't lighting any fires. Even with hard-core TMNT fans, the show doesn't have half the following the 2003 series had.

If Necca had tried Turtles today, I doubt they would've even gotten it off the ground.

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Posted 01 August 2013 - 09:19 AM

View Postmako, on 31 July 2013 - 10:21 AM, said:

View PostFUGAYZIE, on 30 July 2013 - 11:07 AM, said:

though, if it was done all over again, right now, in today's market with TMNT popularity riding the high wave of popularity that it is, it would be a totally different story.

Not really. I love the Turtles, but even I have to admit their popularity is nowhere near where it was. The only time anybody seems to notice the new movie is when they screw something up (alien Turtles, Paramilitary Foot, Megan Fox), the Nick toon is doing alright, but isn't lighting any fires. Even with hard-core TMNT fans, the show doesn't have half the following the 2003 series had.

If Necca had tried Turtles today, I doubt they would've even gotten it off the ground.

i have to disagree. Nick has done fantastic marketing with the new Turtles franchise. the new show is a legit good quality show with a ton of room for growth and has been a hot bed for generating new fans while still appealing to many of the older ones. Nick has also added tmnt to their themeparks which helps build fans from the ground up. top all that off with the buzz of a new major production movie in the works and a great new comic from IDW which has been successfully melding many fan favorite fragments of the varied tmnt verse to form something fresh and new, yet still very familiar to the core fans, and the franchise's level of success has raised well above what it was back in 2003.

sure the 4kids show was great and volume 4 of the comic was entertaining, but the majority of fans back then were the same fans who were still lingering around from the old mirage comic and fred wolf cartoon days. the franchise became very stagnant and the fan base was considerably weaker.

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Posted 18 September 2013 - 10:52 PM

TMNT Classic Rocksteady & Bebop In-Hand Figure Images

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Posted 19 September 2013 - 07:33 AM

i want to like them...i really do, but i don't :( i wish they would have stuck to a traditional toon design. even as a stand alone design, i wish the figures were a little bulkier. a good example would the new avengers movie hulk or ML faceoff hulk/leader 2 pack. their waist/hip joint is a tad too small imo. i do really like their classic style weapons and that they made rocksteady's helmet removable though.

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Posted 19 September 2013 - 08:57 PM

They look perfect. Not bad thing to say

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 09:25 AM

Rocksteady & Bebop Figure reviews are up:

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Classic Collection Rocksteady Figure Video Review & Images http://toynewsi.com/...hp?itemid=21091

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Classic Collection Bebop Figure Video Review & Images http://toynewsi.com/...20&itemid=21089

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 11:55 AM

im tired of Pixel Dan...maybe its sour grapes, maybe its his voice...i dunno.

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 12:51 PM

LOL, sour grapes for what? and tired of what, him showing you upcoming toys so you can decide if you want to buy it or not????

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 12:54 PM

I think they look good. I like these new designs, they look much more menacing than the originals, like these are characters you would thing twice about before mesing with. Granted I did not collect the original line so it doesn't bother me at all that they look different. The figures aren't perfect but no figure is and I think they make nice additions to this line.

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 01:22 PM

Eh I don't care if he doesn't look more like his animated self I still want it

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 02:08 PM

I can't wait to get them too. As for Pixel-Dan, I love his videos and met him a few times in real life, he's a great guy and props to him for turning something he did for fun into something he can live off of. Not many here can say they did that(Jay, you don't count, lol).

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 02:38 PM

View PostJoeRhyno, on 20 September 2013 - 02:08 PM, said:

I can't wait to get them too. As for Pixel-Dan, I love his videos and met him a few times in real life, he's a great guy and props to him for turning something he did for fun into something he can live off of. Not many here can say they did that(Jay, you don't count, lol).


Well Dan actually works a regular non-toy related 8hr, 7 days a week job and then comes home and films his reviews after work and on weekends. Yeah he gets some free toys (just like any reviewer will often get free product sent to them to review) and makes a little money from his YT channel but the guy works his ass off which is why I don't understand why anyone would have sour grapes. Do people who go on tech sites or video game sites and read reviews get mad or jealous because those reviewers get sent free games and tech hardware? It would be like me getting mad that someone who reviews cell phones gets sent the latest iPhone for free to review. I can understand if you don't like the sound of someones voice, though honestly Dan has a pretty basic voice that is easy to understand, but that sort of thing is a preference and we all have different preferences, but again I don't think anyone should have sour grapes over what he does or be jealous.

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 02:56 PM

I just hope these 2 are easy to find when they do make it to release...very cool figs

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 03:38 PM

View PostGuitarDevil, on 20 September 2013 - 02:56 PM, said:

I just hope these 2 are easy to find when they do make it to release...very cool figs


They will be available at TRU or online etailers. The 4 Turtles seem pretty easy to find now at TRU so I don't think these guys should be to difficult.

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 04:45 PM

the only disappointment with these figures is the scale...no matter how you look at it, they are too small or the turtles are too big

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 07:01 PM

View PostJoeRhyno, on 20 September 2013 - 02:08 PM, said:

I can't wait to get them too. As for Pixel-Dan, I love his videos and met him a few times in real life, he's a great guy and props to him for turning something he did for fun into something he can live off of. Not many here can say they did that(Jay, you don't count, lol).

Me to, he's a cool guy, met him at SDCC 2012, in a line waiting to pick up preorder stuff.

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 10:05 PM

View Postfeatofstrength, on 20 September 2013 - 04:45 PM, said:

the only disappointment with these figures is the scale...no matter how you look at it, they are too small or the turtles are too big
Agreed. I like them a lot, but the scale problem really is hard to overlook.

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 10:08 PM

View Postfeatofstrength, on 20 September 2013 - 04:45 PM, said:

the only disappointment with these figures is the scale...no matter how you look at it, they are too small or the turtles are too big


If anything I would say the Turtles a probably a little to tall.

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Posted 21 September 2013 - 12:09 AM

Damn... No ankle joints is a deal breaker for me...

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Posted 23 September 2013 - 09:41 PM

I still bought the Turtles despite the cartoony look, their still bombas$.....yes Bebop & Steady are a lil smaller but I'm not a size king......no ankle joints....that's not a total breaker for me either, bring em on.....

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Posted 27 September 2013 - 11:35 PM

View PostNguyen_Dragon, on 21 September 2013 - 12:09 AM, said:

Damn... No ankle joints is a deal breaker for me...


Ankle joints are horrible, they hinder stability, My classic collection Mike won't even stay connected to his feet ( I now have to glue them in...sad)

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