[Alyosha]

Click the Link for Joe Con location and dates!

[GIJoeKing65]

Sounds good to me! Looking forward to it!

[Toiletmonkey1]

thats 20 minutes from my house! unless i die? i should be there!


TM

[BrotherShane]

Toiletmonkey1, on Dec 26 2008, 11:05 PM, said:

thats 20 minutes from my house! unless i die? i should be there!


TM

With the economy in it's current state can all the TNI board members stay with you?

[Alyosha]

It's a crummy drive. I made it back when the con was there in 2001. Long, boring and full of suck.

[The Wire]

2009 Joe Con Information And New 2009 Resolute Comic 2-Packs

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[CaptainTriumph]

I kinda like these two-packs...As for the Joe Con, I think I am going to try to swing this one even if its a bit of a drive for me.

[Inggasson]

Interesting designs. Nice to finally see Shockwave get an upgrade to 25th-style, despite the name-change. I could use multiples of his gas mask... I might get the Destro loose. Not sure yet. I'd like to see proper in-hand pics before I decide.

[RedKat]

that tunnel rats head looks bad dude, i hope its just a prototype there showing, looks like he has no neck i may pass on that set, till hasbro fixes the headpiece

[Cthulhu5k]

I'm digging that SWAT Destro. The vest seems pretty cool and shows that someone understands what Destro's function in Cobra was. He's the armorer of sorts, and it stands to reason he would have a large amount of stuff he keeps back for himself. That bulletproof vest looks awesome.

I'm worried about the Storm Shadow/Tunnel Rat pack, simply because it looks like Tunnel Rat needs an M-60 just to be packaged with everybody's favorite ninja.

[Card]

Well at least its drivable, now I can bring some large custom vehicles. I also did that drive in 01, it is a little....flat there. Whats that for you Aly, has to be around 15 hrs. At least this year I dont have to deal with supershuttle and airports for the con. Plus I wont have to ship items home so I can buy a bit more.

[JohnnyRebelV2]

RedKat, on Dec 27 2008, 08:56 AM, said:

that tunnel rats head looks bad dude, i hope its just a prototype there showing, looks like he has no neck i may pass on that set, till hasbro fixes the headpiece

I've seen in hand pics of Tunnel Rat and his head sculpt looks great in those pics.

[cmderinchief]

Card, on Dec 27 2008, 01:19 PM, said:

Well at least its drivable, now I can bring some large custom vehicles. I also did that drive in 01, it is a little....flat there. Whats that for you Aly, has to be around 15 hrs. At least this year I dont have to deal with supershuttle and airports for the con. Plus I wont have to ship items home so I can buy a bit more.

Count me in too - as always.

[Marthor]

Getting the most white dots in the center circle is very important to maximize attendance.
To a lesser extent more white dots in the bigger circle will help too because it will still draw people with a reasonable day drive.

Sure there's people who fly and will go anywhere so you always have a core crowd, but if you want to maximize attendance you need to fit more white dots in the circles. One thing about putting it on the coast is half of the circle is out in the ocean.
That's why Cincinnati is such a sweet spot with thicker white dot concentrations in every direction.

BOTCON 2009 in California I predict will have at least a 30% drop off in attendance compared to the record attendance in Cincinnati.

[Viper Hunter]

Marthor, on Dec 28 2008, 11:17 AM, said:

Getting the most white dots in the center circle is very important to maximize attendance.
To a lesser extent more white dots in the bigger circle will help too because it will still draw people with a reasonable day drive.

Sure there's people who fly and will go anywhere so you always have a core crowd, but if you want to maximize attendance you need to fit more white dots in the circles. One thing about putting it on the coast is half of the circle is out in the ocean.
That's why Cincinnati is such a sweet spot with thicker white dot concentrations in every direction.

BOTCON 2009 in California I predict will have at least a 30% drop off in attendance compared to the record attendance in Cincinnati.

It's probably more expensive to book conventions in the better areas also. Seems if they paid MORE to be in a better locations though, the higher turn out would pay for it anyway, but who am I trying to second guess the powers that be?

[Alyosha]

Card, on Dec 27 2008, 12:19 PM, said:

Well at least its drivable, now I can bring some large custom vehicles. I also did that drive in 01, it is a little....flat there. Whats that for you Aly, has to be around 15 hrs. At least this year I dont have to deal with supershuttle and airports for the con. Plus I wont have to ship items home so I can buy a bit more.

Yeah, I seem to recall it taking us about 16 hours the last time. The only way I'll be driving is if gas prices stay low enough to offset airfare, plus the luggage charges for my inventory....and it's carpooled. Any way about it....yuck.

Oh, and the in hand pics the other guy mentioned were mine. TRat's head is not good, IMO.

[Doom Saber]

Marthor, on Dec 28 2008, 08:17 AM, said:

Getting the most white dots in the center circle is very important to maximize attendance.
To a lesser extent more white dots in the bigger circle will help too because it will still draw people with a reasonable day drive.

Sure there's people who fly and will go anywhere so you always have a core crowd, but if you want to maximize attendance you need to fit more white dots in the circles. One thing about putting it on the coast is half of the circle is out in the ocean.
That's why Cincinnati is such a sweet spot with thicker white dot concentrations in every direction.

BOTCON 2009 in California I predict will have at least a 30% drop off in attendance compared to the record attendance in Cincinnati.

I am not sure the turnout rate for the joecon 2003 in SF didn't have a bad dropoff rate. No offense, but I think there are more TF fans than there are joe fans based on cartoon series and action figures. Besides, Pasadea is a popular tourist attraction in sourthern cali and there are a lot of tf fans in cali.

[GeneralScarlett]

Going by the 'white dot concentration' that Marthor spoke of........looks to me like there's a whole helluva lotta white dots in the New England area.....


I really wish that they had gone with RI/MA/CT.........ahhh well.....c'est la vie

[Marthor]

Doom Saber, on Dec 29 2008, 09:17 AM, said:

No offense, but I think there are more TF fans than there are joe fans based on cartoon series and action figures. Besides, Pasadea is a popular tourist attraction in sourthern cali and there are a lot of tf fans in cali.

There's definately bigger attendance to the TF conventions than the Joe Conventions. If you compare the TF convention in Cincinnati to the California TF convention I'm expecting a considerable drop off because of the location. There are as many TF fans in california directly proportional to white dots is the point. Statistics would indicate that.

On a side note, don't forget the $25 bag check fee for each bag which is something new to impact convention flyers this year too. Two bags checked both ways would be $100 ouch.

BOTCON has benefited greatly in the past and helped to build it up more by consistantly having much better con locations than JoeCon has had in the past.

GeneralScarlett, on Dec 29 2008, 03:40 PM, said:

looks to me like there's a whole helluva lotta white dots in the New England area.....

Yep, it's almost one continuous "megatropolis" from Boston, Hartford, New York, Philedelphia, Baltimore and DC. East coast in that area would pack a lot of white dots in the inner circle. The only thing that hurts the coast is like I said, half the circle is out in the ocean where there are zero white dots.

Look at the circles comparing Cincy and KC and you see how overwhlming it is of many more white dots in the circles for Cincy. KC is not a very good choice for attendance purposes. Having bad location choices every year for JoeCon continually perpetuates the perception of the Joe fan base being a bit smaller than it really is. It won't show its true potential until they get a better location choice with bigger population density in drive distance to JoeCon...then all of a sudden you'll have a record attendance at JoeCon and that would be good for GIJOE.

Norfolk and Atlanta were the bigger attendance JoeCons, and that's just easy to see on the map up there.
The lower attendance JoeCons are always way out in the fringe locations like Dallas, NO, KC and Minn.

[Admiral Hunter]

Card, on Dec 27 2008, 10:19 AM, said:

Well at least its drivable, now I can bring some large custom vehicles. I also did that drive in 01, it is a little....flat there. Whats that for you Aly, has to be around 15 hrs. At least this year I dont have to deal with supershuttle and airports for the con. Plus I wont have to ship items home so I can buy a bit more.

Are you telling me to fly out to Denver and hitch a ride!? I think that's what you just said!

-Kevin

[GPM in ICT]

The comic pack look fine, but I get the feeling they're just slapping the Resolute name on them. None of the figure have that Resolute feel to them.

As for the Con, I might have to attend this one since it just up the road. It would be my first and I think with this year have the movie and Resolute being released it could be interesting.

[Jeff]

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Found these images of the Pilot Destro and Shockblast over at the ACToys.com board

[Mavdayvaas]

I have been to KC once back during the mid90's at Kemper Arena. Oh its tempting right now but I have to choose either botcon or Joecon. Botcon I can also go to Disneyland. What is there to offer in KC?

[mjolnir]

While the east coast will have a lot of the circle in the ocean on its east half, Kansas City has a wide ocean of nothing between it and Denver, and after Denver there's another wide ocean of nothing for a while.

[Wheeljack35]

Mavdayvaas, on Dec 30 2008, 03:17 PM, said:

I have been to KC once back during the mid90's at Kemper Arena. Oh its tempting right now but I have to choose either botcon or Joecon. Botcon I can also go to Disneyland. What is there to offer in KC?

The world famous Kansas City Royals