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#1 User is offline   The Wire 

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Posted 14 October 2008 - 02:50 PM

Chuck Dixon & Robert Atkins Talk G.I.Joe Part 1

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Posted 14 October 2008 - 03:54 PM

I'm legitimately psyched about this series. I like the idea of Cobra not being so out in the open and other enemies being given a chance to shine. Cobra should be an intense, deadly threat and when they do appear, it's potentially catastrophic.

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Posted 14 October 2008 - 04:07 PM

I'm liking what I'm hearing so far....but why does GI Joe always have second rate art? The artwork always looks shoddy.....Scarlett looks awful. Why is it no Joe artist can draw a woman correctly?

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Posted 14 October 2008 - 04:11 PM

Sounds good. Let's hope it can maintain that feel for the long haul.

Although one thing does bother me, but it is my own personal bias. I hate when writers talk about how people will die, but it won't be for "effect" or out of the blue. Guess what? In reality soldiers die for no reason other than bad luck sometimes. That is what makes things all the more tragic in war. I feel that can be a "meaningful" death when written into a story .

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Posted 14 October 2008 - 04:21 PM

This sounds like a suped up more detailed modern take on the Marvel stories. I like that.

This sounds like it will make out Cobra to be a more dangerous and deadly threat than ever before. I can't wait to see Cobra Commander. He has got to be awesome now to head up this version of Cobra. Now it sound like Cobra could be a legit threat to the entire planet.

I hope the threats that are not known to be connected to Cobra are headed up by guys like Fire Fly and Headman. Like all the individual and unigue Cobra guys are in a secret inner Cobra circle.

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Posted 14 October 2008 - 04:38 PM

As true as it is that soldiers die regardless of skill or importance, I think that for the sake of good storytelling, people can't just randomly be done in. I like the idea that character deaths will ultimately be relevant, instead of just unecessary 'shock' gestures.

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Posted 14 October 2008 - 05:19 PM

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This sounds like it will make out Cobra to be a more dangerous and deadly threat than ever before. I can't wait to see Cobra Commander. He has got to be awesome now to head up this version of Cobra. Now it sound like Cobra could be a legit threat to the entire planet.


It will take a LOT to get Chris Latta out of my head.

A LOT!

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Posted 14 October 2008 - 05:53 PM

I know I will be hearing that voice when I read any of his lines. There really needs to be something new to base his voice off of.

I think that is a problem everyone has with Cobra Commander usually. That cartoon version had such a strong personality of being a loser that it is hard to see him any other way and the voice was a part of that.

It was fun for the cartoon but he needs to be meaner and alot different from the cartoon CC we all know and love. The only sollution is if he talks more normal in the movie or Resolute so we can hear that voice instead.

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Posted 14 October 2008 - 06:03 PM

View PostTom-1, on Oct 14 2008, 04:38 PM, said:

As true as it is that soldiers die regardless of skill or importance, I think that for the sake of good storytelling, people can't just randomly be done in. I like the idea that character deaths will ultimately be relevant, instead of just unecessary 'shock' gestures.

Tom



See that's where I disagree. You see it as a "shock value" move. I don't. Especially since it would be more realistic than any other style of death. As well, the story usually revolves around the "great sacrifice" of a death, and the truth is that the "random" death is something that really forces storytellers to explore characters.

I don't for one second think that is ever going to happen, but I would really like to see it.

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Posted 14 October 2008 - 08:24 PM

Chuck Dixon... well, I can save myself that money. The man hasn't written anything worth reading since...

Oh for the luvva Mike, it's Chuck 'Knightfall' Dixon! Honestly now!

Sorry to any who like him, but I have a well-entrenched opinion that he's one of the most over-rated comic writers in the business... which says quite a lot. I have tried on multiple occasions to get into the things he writes, and every time I wonder how the heck he manages to get work. Most of his stuff doesn't even show the potential to get someone hired at most publishers, let alone allow them to make a career out of it.

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Posted 15 October 2008 - 12:28 PM

Part 2 with Robert Atkins is up.

http://comicnewsi.co...08&itemid=12265

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Posted 15 October 2008 - 05:49 PM

I've read two previews of G.I. Joe #0 on a competing toy news site, and I think my doubts have been addressed, if they can keep the writing quality up. And the art works for me, too-- I can tell Hawk from Duke and clearly follow the story, I don't need it to look like Alex Ross or anything...

If you like 80s Marvel or run-of-the-mill Batman stories, you should like Dixon. He's consistent and competent, which is ridiculously rare in main stream comic book writers. To my knowlegde, he's never turned in anything on par with say Miller's work on Dark Knight Returns or Daredevil: Born Again, but who has these days? He's decent, and I like him.

And Duke gets plenty of exposure and sounds cool-- not much more I can ask for, really.

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Posted 15 October 2008 - 07:23 PM

Chuck Dixon said:

Scarlett is here as head of Intel for G.I. JOE and she and Duke have their own history. Snake Eyes is in the first arc in a way in which I donít think heís ever been portrayed. Heís more the lone wolf than ever before.

I really don't like the sound of that.
Everything else sounds fine, though.

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Posted 15 October 2008 - 07:37 PM

View Postgojira77, on Oct 15 2008, 06:49 PM, said:

I've read two previews of G.I. Joe #0 on a competing toy news site, and I think my doubts have been addressed, if they can keep the writing quality up. And the art works for me, too-- I can tell Hawk from Duke and clearly follow the story, I don't need it to look like Alex Ross or anything...

If you like 80s Marvel or run-of-the-mill Batman stories, you should like Dixon. He's consistent and competent, which is ridiculously rare in main stream comic book writers. To my knowlegde, he's never turned in anything on par with say Miller's work on Dark Knight Returns or Daredevil: Born Again, but who has these days? He's decent, and I like him.

And Duke gets plenty of exposure and sounds cool-- not much more I can ask for, really.


Newsarama who has the previews exclusivly is actually a comic book news site not a toy one ;)

http://www.newsarama...m.php?aid=23348

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Posted 15 October 2008 - 08:09 PM

JAYC MAKE THESE COMICS COME OUT NOW WITH YOUR POWERS.

Tom

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Posted 15 October 2008 - 10:39 PM

View Postcanprime, on Oct 14 2008, 06:03 PM, said:

View PostTom-1, on Oct 14 2008, 04:38 PM, said:

As true as it is that soldiers die regardless of skill or importance, I think that for the sake of good storytelling, people can't just randomly be done in. I like the idea that character deaths will ultimately be relevant, instead of just unecessary 'shock' gestures.

Tom



See that's where I disagree. You see it as a "shock value" move. I don't. Especially since it would be more realistic than any other style of death. As well, the story usually revolves around the "great sacrifice" of a death, and the truth is that the "random" death is something that really forces storytellers to explore characters.

I don't for one second think that is ever going to happen, but I would really like to see it.


It has. Take a look at this list:

General Flagg - Lawrence J. Flagg - #19 V1
Dr. Venom - #19 V1
Scar-Face - #19 V1
Kwinn - #19 V1
SE Family - #26 Flashback V1
Hard Master - #26 Flashback V1
Fred Broca - #32 V1
Soft Master - #43 V1
Candy Appel - #43 V1
Professor Appel - #46 V1
General Ryan - #53 V1
Admiral Dyson - #53 V1
Mangler - ? - SM #13
Serpentor ---> Resurected - #76 V1 - #22 (i think) V2
The Star Viper - SM #16
Blind Master - #91 V1
Colonel Brekhov - SM #26
Horrorshow - SM #26
Stormavik - SM #26
Schrage - SM #26
George Strawhacker - #106 V1
Breaker - Alvin R. Kibbey - #109 V1
Doc - Carl W. Greer - #109 V1
Quick Kick - MacArthur S. Ito - #109 V1
Thunder - Matt H. Breckinridge - #109 V1
Crazylegs - David O. Thomas - #109 V1
Crankcase - Elwood G. Indiana - #109 V1
Heavy Metal - Sherman R. Guderian - #109 V1
Cool Breeze - ? - #112 V1
Sneak Peak - Owen King - #113 V1
Avalanche - Ian Costello - #113 V1
Blaster - Brian R. David - #113 V1
Blocker - David B. McCarthy - #113 V1
Knockdown - Blaine M. Gonsalves - #113 V1
Maverick - Thomas P. Kiley - #113 V1
Dee-Jay - Thomas R. Rossi III - #113 V1
Cobra Commander II - #114 V1
Dr. Mindbender ---> Resurected - #114 V1
Croc Master - #114 V1
Raptor - #114 V1
Voltar - #114 V1
Captain Minh - #114 V1
Tyrone - #114 V1
Fred (Smith?Broca?) LXV and FAmily - #123-#124
Madame Umbra - #143 V1 Flashback
Darklon - #146 V1
Magda - #145 V1
White Clown - #145 V1
Metze - #151 V1
Senetor Cartwright - #13 V2
Flash - Anthony S. Gambello - #25 V2
Mainframe - Blaine L. Parker - #25 V2
Chuckles - Philip M. Provost - #25 V2
Skidmark - Cyril Colombani - #25 V2
Angle - #152 Flashback V1
Ramon Escobedo - #155 V1 Falshback
Dickie Saperstein - #155 V1 Falshback
Daemon - Jeff Lacefield - #22 V2
Seely - FL #13
Ophella Gabriel - M&A #1
Tony Cochrane - M&A #1
Jenna Cashel - M&A #1
D.J. Byrne - M&A #1
Lt. Gorky - #19 V2
Sneak Peak II - Anthony Beuke - #11 V2
Wade Collins M&A #4
Tracker-Christopher R. Groen- #37 V2
Rampart-Dwayne A. Felix - #38 V2
Glenda- Jane Mullighan- #38 V2
Hardball- Willmer S. Duggleby- #38 V2
Big Boa #38 V2
Asa Negra #38 V2
Hector Ramerez #40 V2
Scanner- Scott Sturgis - internet handle(NOIZEPOWER) #41 V2
Overlord - Mikhail Derenko -#41 V2
Dr. Mindbender - #41 V2
Reggie - #42 V2
Lady Jaye - Alison Hart-Burnett (Fairborne) - #42-43 V2
Junko Akita - M&A II #4
Sei Tin - M&A II #4


A LOT of those characters died for no reason. And that list isn't even complete (for example, Cesspool, Monkeywrench, Dr. Biggles-Jones, Overkill and Headman).

Your forgetting this is a comic book.

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Posted 16 October 2008 - 05:04 AM

Wow. I guess there has been alot of deaths....

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