Devilbat, on 06 January 2015 - 01:34 AM, said:
Bah...Star Wars was never about the action sequences or choreographed fighting...it was about a classic and subtle yet timeless story that was only enhanced by the fantastic creatures, wonderfully-acted human characters, and clever special-effects that made a fun romp of a series of films. If I want The Matrix, I'll watch The Matrix. Star Wars doesn't need to keep up with anything else...it needs to re-establish the standard it set in the first place.
Much of what you say is right, but there's nothing subtle about the Star Wars story. Further, folks need to recall that this isn't 1977 anymore. The bulk of moviegoing audiences (which tends to be younger than many old-school Star Wars fans) have different tastes now. If you don't cater somewhat to those tastes, your movie is likely to underperform if not bomb. Now, Star Wars isn't likely to bomb regardless, but that doesn't mean "Do everything exactly like they did it (almost) forty years ago."
Nevermind that Star Wars was VERY much about action sequences...just not the kinds of action sequences that tend to involve martial arts fights: The Escape from the Death Star. The Trench Run. The Battle of Hoth and the Asteroid Field Chase. etc... etc... (And a few Lightsaber duels too). These all had plenty of choreography to them. Star Wars was inspired by the serials of George Lucas' youth, which had plenty of action to them, and certainly were anything but subtle stories.
I always find it a bit amusing that so many people think that a Lightsaber Duel should never move beyond standard stage-fighting (which is pretty much what all the OT lightsaber duels were). Do you think Star Wars would be just as successful if no blaster was ever fired or no lightsaber ever clashed?
But beyond that, we have no idea what these guys will be doing in the movie, or even if the rumor has any truth to it whatsoever or not. A little early to get up in arms about it.
hamsterboy, on 06 January 2015 - 03:52 PM, said:
They say in the article it's good news. How exactly is that good news?
Go watch The Raid and/or The Raid 2.
These guys are some of the best action stars nobody has heard of (because they're not English-language performers) out there.
Seriously though, regardless of your feelings on these guys maybe (but just as likely not) being in Episode VII in some capacity, The Raid and the Raid 2 are some of the best martial-arts action movies in decades. Well worth checking out.
yojoebro82, on 06 January 2015 - 07:26 PM, said:
So they hire actors that are "too young" or "too old" or "too main-stream". One of the Stormtroopers is "too black". One of the droids it "too round". Now they hire stunt men that are too.....um...martial-artsy? I guess?
So is that it? Has the cast been completely scrutinized yet?
I'm sure there'll be more to come. It's going to be the prequels all over again: No matter how good or bad the final product is, there will be a legion of die-hard "fans" that will always find it completely lacking compared to the movie they made up in their heads/"What I would have done if I had absolute power over the production of this movie and the entirety of Hollywood and an unlimited budget was...."
(Don't mistake me, the Prequels were horribly flawed in many ways, I'm just noting that by the time Episode I hit, there was pretty much no way it could live up to the hype in the minds of many. I am confident Episode VII will be considered "better" than any of the Prequels when all is said and done. Hopefully much better, but at the bare minimum "better.")